4.5 pgs of crap and FI vs NA +F1

[WDRacing]

Here's another pic for you...he was hot..so I helped him out.

[mikemcgrath4]

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Strangely, this dyno turns me on everytime i look at it.. I don't know what it is anyone else feel me?

i hope ur kiddin bout that...lol

[neverlift]

holy **** rmao. is that your cat? if so thats the coolest fvckin cat man. He takes smowballs in da face like a champ and when hes hot he gets you to shave him <best friend my wife even lol'd at that ****. Keep em rollin.

I name this the official bs/F1/cat thread. With a few hits on turbovsN/a. I enjoy NICO so much.

[DjPantsSpecR]

i honestly had a good laugh at both that cat picture and the new name of this thread

i too love NICO

[thomasjamal]

New name of the thread rocks!

OMG Does anybody else here see a pen15 in that dyno graph? theres like little ballz down by the 2.5k range and then after 5250 where the torque and horsepower meet theres a huge load spraying out of the tip of the pen15... This is a bull**** dyno graph for sure!

I never even thought of that.... I think i know what's on your mind....

[ShionS14]

I think Kimi will do quite well with Scuderia. It will be an adjustment because before the team was there for Schumi, now it is going to be Scuderia Ferrari as a team. The good thing about Kimi being a front line driver, the Ferrari engineers won't have to guess on where to make adjustments since Michael didn't communicate with them very well and Kimi is well known for telling engineers where something needs a change. I think now Ferrari is going to have an absolutely incredible machine after the first few rounds. I also can't wait to see how Button does in '07, ever since he won in Hungary he seems to have come alive and keeping up with the race leaders. For those of you who might need a little clarification, drivers who are considered front runners, Kimi, Alonso, Schumi, Coulthart etc. are described as such because they can drive a machine at its limits where as other drivers like Speed, Luizi, Yamamoto, etc. are driving at their limits and not the vehicles.

[neverlift]

fvckin /\

anyone who can drive an F1 at the cars limit and not his own limit is a pimp in my book.Poor speed he is the only us driver and just dont have it.if you take out the top runners he could get metal everytime he ran. But thats not happening anytime soon.

WD I am in need of more pictures of your cat damnit. I am collecting them for the animal rights people now I demand you post more. What the fug is that spot btw that cat seems to be on the dope.

[InsanityInc]

Now you're mixing an F1 conversation with the turbo conversation, which I'm ok with. Here's the deal, I said you can add forced induction to any motor and make more power and that's fact period man, indisputable. No need to even talk about it anymore, you're wrong.

Like I said: Put a small turbo on a F1 car. You'll lose power. The CFM the engine is flowing NA is greater than the CFM the turbo can flow. I never "mixed" anything. It was an example to show that adding any old turbo isn't going to magically increase power on every engine.

Quote »This whole matching a turbo to make 1000hp is retarded. What motor is it going on? What are the RPM requirements for the motor...give me a small handful of details and I'll pick you out a turbo right now. What is lag on a big block? What is lag on a motor that spins to 18,000 rpm?[/quote]What is lag? Are you serious? It's a noticable delay in power delivery. What are you even talking about in this post? The turbo generation of F1 engines had to be 1.5L. They ran at 10k-11k rpm depending on the engine.

Yeah, you can make a turbo setup that has good spool time and a good powerband. You also can make a turbo setup that produces ridiculous amounts of power for the displacement of the engine. What you can't do is both at the same time.

Quote »I made my point and simply can't be proven wrong. But its not like I thought it all up, it's just something that happens to be true, like the 2+2 thing.

WD[/quote]What was your point? That adding a turbo always makes more power? That's blatantly false. All you've really demonstrated is a lack of understanding as to how turbos actually create more pressure in the cylinder.

Also, it's a pretty sad man that has to post an "owned" picture about their own post.

[neverlift]

so slider how are "WE" doing now? lol lol lol

[WDRacing]

Look man, just don't argue with me anymore. I'm tired of trying to explain myself to you. You just don't get it...I made a statement about FI always making more power. It does...period. Now STFU about it. I'm not arguing any other points dumbass, I'm saying FI makes more power then NA...thats it and its FACT...PERIOD.

Take the picture how ever you want to...I could give a **** less.

Merry Christmas

[HOMEMADE240SXTURBO]

has anyone checked this website out? who said that the ka24e can't make over 250hp with stock internals? check the link out.

http://www.sdsefi.com/features/240sx.htm
Modified by HOMEMADE240SXTURBO at 3:46 PM 12/14/2006

[neverlift]

damn wrong side of the bed always gets me too

**** did I do?that **** is funny **** your cat then hope that she caatches a cold.

[InsanityInc]

Look man, just don't argue with me anymore. I'm tired of trying to explain myself to you. You just don't get it...I made a statement about FI always making more power. It does...period. Now STFU about it. I'm not arguing any other points dumbass, I'm saying FI makes more power then NA...thats it and its FACT...PERIOD.

And yet you still don't understand my point. But sure, take your ball and go home.

[WDRacing]

If you would tell me what you're actually trying to debate man, I'd be willing to listen. But you're all over the map here. What are we arguing? Is it FI making more power or turbo related stuff. I'm willing to debate anything. I would simply like to pick a topic and address it under a set of controlled circumstances.

WD

[neverlift]

can we debate about a ka engine that makes 300chp na on 9.5"c/r

/\ that would benifit from a turbo .

Here is a good one for real

a ka that is N/A at 15:1 with a rev limit of 9000rpm with the powerband above 6k? would this engine gain with a super t70? And would this imaginary engine be able to control ping without water/meth/alky?IC is ok I guess.

I got the 15:1 from a hat of number btw

[GuSpeed]

Have you guys heard of MotoTune? Well he builts motorcycle engines and he gets more HP than a lot of people out there on the same machine. How?

The way he breaks in the engine and the way he built the engine.

Anything is possible until we see result we shouldn't say BS.

Just because you can't prove something doesn't mean it exist!

I'm just sticking up for the author of this post, but really for all the ones that said BS. Have you ever built a full race engine? Please answer honestly cause the truth is eternal.

[GuSpeed]

Yeah and Slider if you are trying to prove something to people and they don't agree with you, don't call them STUPID. That's wrong. You're doing the same thing that you don't like people doing to you.

You are the master of your life,you create your own future.

-Buddha

[neverlift]

thats just it we dont have to of built a full race motor to KNOW he was full of ****. BS on here is like flies on ****,we have heard enough to know without a uber high reving high comp motor,he can adjust his cam and play with his stick all he wants 10:1 and a cam will not cut it for his claims.Lets get a number of how many people spent g's to get close to 200chp,that would be better than who has not. The countless threads about sohc pistons in dohc motor with higher comp then sliders never came close due to not adjusting the cam and square decking come the **** on man put the bong up

[pregmantis]

guspeed, there is nothing special or secret about the way mototune breaks in thier motors, its just another way. some people do it one way and some the other.

alot of people make more power than alot of people, there are some people who are really good at what they do........and there are alot of people like that, you see lots of exceptional people everyday in the mags and all. know what i mean?

I know whta you mean by "anythings possible" but this sounds more like the impossible side. I thinke I need to see how his motor is set up......and I could care less bout the "camshaft setting"..to me it means nothing but the last 0-18hp and I think the question IS did he build a race engine? because he sure saying it has race engine power.

neverlift, what do you mean by uber high revving because these engines cant make power like that under 7500rpm. just wondering. but wouldnt it be nice to go past 8000rpm huh?

I dont ghink anyone cares about sliders or his motor, I certainly dont make that kind of power but then again I didng get to square deck my block yet.

[neverlift]

dont tell me you think a gt3 car is only reving to 7500 rpm? they would get owned badly.I am not saying a stock car can rev that high but,the engine I'm speaking of is not anything stock. I'm talking a truck bottom end with a balanced crank full valvetrain upgrade and a cam to suite not a bolt on stock half balanced crank with soft stock springs.

[WDRacing]

Relax bro, we proved he was a lying *** Dog already...and we banned him. No sense on replying unless it about the New Topic...F1, NA or FI...lol.

WD

[neverlift]

is that drink any good?why is matt a jerk?hows it going wd

[pregmantis]

neverlft, I dont really know what a gt3 engine is but I have seen motors (ka's) make slightly over 300hp that rev to 7500rpm and slightly lower rpm. thats all Im saying. making 300hp on a ka doesnt allways require high rpm. unless you think 7500rpm is high .

[WDRacing]

Well, I was reading up on energy drinks on this site that tell you how many you can drink beofre you actually die. Monster was like 127 or somthing like, Cocaine was only 47!!! So I was like DAMN!!!! Its one of those that actually works. Not just somthing you pay $2.50 for and get 400 calories.

Matt's a Jerk cause he made me change my signature, I had a flasher gif up there...it wasn't Nico approved so.

I'm doing well. I'd being doing much better if I could get my 240 project up and running. I have this 88 K5 Blazer I'm driving around while my loaded S14SE sits collecting bird ****!!! I tossed the #3 rod awhile back and haven't fixed it since. I could just install a new motor and call it good, but NA sucks. I can't go from 400WHP to nothing...I refuse to. So I'm getting a short block from a buddy and taking it to a damn machine shop to be overbored .020. I have the Pauter rods and Ross pistons already. I plan on running E85 and 15lbs of boost with no ignition retard. Should be a good combo.

Merry Christmas

[neverlift]

think I'll put you in my xmas wish list"and give wd a good block for a cheap price and a discount at the machine shop,with swift assembly" "and all the rest of my nico friends so we can have the best cars on the planet" thats a good wish. I would have put a bullet right next to #3 then drag that ***** from my bumper. I have benn very curious about E85 just have 0 here. How much more would I need to flow to run e85? I am going to have some ?'s for you ,I think 15 would be caek 20psi might happen from what I heard about it(the "high grade" e85) very det resistant. How much did those rods run I have yet to look into them?