4.5 pgs of crap and FI vs NA +F1

Information on the naturally-aspirated KA24E and KA24DE engines.
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just got back from the dyno this after noon and will post the print out soon. we hit 273 at the rear wheels with a 1990 240 ka24e (n/a) High comp pistons, stock crank but new, mild cam.adj cam gear(not telling what we ran it at) ported but not polished head, intake butterflies removed and runners cleaned up, high volume injectors, external fuel pump added with (25/75 mixture) 91 octane and vp110 and the most important thing you can do to a n/a motor, SQUARE DECKED the block. If you got any questions hit us up and the printout will be up here soon.


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Dyno sheets or ban

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93HATCH240 wrote:Dyno sheets or ban


(sry 93hatch, don't really mean it but just sayin am with ya, dyno sheet/vid or ban)

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no you didn't. Thanks, bye!

(unless you're running N20, but from the lack of information, and useless information, I'm 99.99999999999% sure you're not)

and there's no need to continue putting emphasis on "square decking" it's not going to create an extra 100hp for you. Unless you typoed and got 170hp, then I'd probably believe it.

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[QUOTE=TheOne] (sry 93hatch, don't really mean it but just sayin am with ya, dyno sheet/vid or ban)[/QUOTWIts all good. I know what you meant. I'm with the person above me

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no typo 273 is correct and no you wont get 100hp from square decking unless you have a v8 but around 40 with this motor.and yes printout and vid coming

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little help please... what is a squared deck.. wow if the numbers are confermed wow

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YO..holy crap..

wtf kind of compression you running to get that number..13:1

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USsil80 wrote:little help please... what is a squared deck.. wow if the numbers are confermed wow

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yea right!

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People stop dissing. What makes you think its impossible?? Have anyone ever tried fully building a KA all motor? I don't know.....

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do you have flow figures for the head?

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not like im dissing anyone but that hp sounds maybe slightly high. its possible though.im not convinced about the square decking though.

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GuSpeed wrote:People stop dissing. What makes you think its impossible?? Have anyone ever tried fully building a KA all motor? I don't know.....
newb its i would like to see te dyno sheet...and why wont u tell us what u set the cam gear at...if its true wouldnt u want people to know how they could acheive this numbers...im skeptical so prove my wrong 273 to the wheels congrats if u did it now prove it

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My car will finally be dynoed in the next month, and with my not-quite-race-build (long process, long story)and I'm hoping for 175 to the wheels. I'm sorry, but I don't believe 273.

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little insight on square decking for the guy who asked.you build your bottom end and measure how high your pistons come out of the whole when at tdc,then run your numbers as to how high you can come out the hole with out doing valvetrain damage and running to high of a compression, say you want your piston to come out 10 thousands and number one is out 2 thousands and number 4 is out 4 thousands you then set your resurfacer so when you machine you are even at 10 thousands across the deck. This raises your compression but also gives you the same combustion chamber across the motor. For the guy who asked about what we ran on our cam degrees and why im not telling is , why would i want the guy beside me to get the info for free when we did all the work. I have given enough info on the basics you want the power, you do the research and time ,im not building your motor for you for free.

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Also for the one asking my compression , notice the race gas we are running in this thing also. Turbo is for boys who dont take pride in building a real motor. NO we are not running nitrous.

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hmmm....all this talk but yet where is the dyno sheets at???post it up???

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we we weyou guys want to come brag with until shown fake *** numbers,then will not tell anyone how you got it. that is not what nico is about. This is a place to share. Sure noone gives up all the tricks but damn you will not say what comp or what cam gear adjustment. You must think we are all going to run out and do it. Truth be told most wont do it they will do some because they dont have all the money you must have to build a ka with 273 whp.

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Any updates on a dyno sheet?

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sliders wrote:little insight on square decking for the guy who asked.you build your bottom end and measure how high your pistons come out of the whole when at tdc,then run your numbers as to how high you can come out the hole with out doing valvetrain damage and running to high of a compression, say you want your piston to come out 10 thousands and number one is out 2 thousands and number 4 is out 4 thousands you then set your resurfacer so when you machine you are even at 10 thousands across the deck. This raises your compression but also gives you the same combustion chamber across the motor. For the guy who asked about what we ran on our cam degrees and why im not telling is , why would i want the guy beside me to get the info for free when we did all the work. I have given enough info on the basics you want the power, you do the research and time ,im not building your motor for you for free.
Along with CC'ing combustion chambers, that is what any decent engine builder should be doing to ensure compression is uniform across the board.

As in my previous post, can you at least post up the flow chart/s before/after of your porting results? It seems that the key to your claimed hp (and what peak torque output????) is how the head flows.

What CR are you running at? above 13.0:1?

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working on uploading the vid but heres the dyno sheet...

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why didn't you lean the top end out further to pickup some more power?

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dude that line you said is HP is the TQ curve.... wtf mate

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Dynojets are BS. They will give people the craziest unrealistic numbers I have ever seen. Usually their WHP reading will be higher than the actual HP at the crank. If you really want to know what your car puts down to the wheels, go find a Mustang Dyno with a good operator. If you just want people to think you got 208 & 273 so you can be super cool, then just fold up that dyno sheet and keep it in your pocket to show everyone at the playground.

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if you live in california, why do you have a dynosheet from jersey?


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no longer live in cali. damn for all the people that cant read a dyno sheet. on that run we got 270 max hp and 288 max torque the numbers on the chart are what we hit at 4 grand. after a little tuning me maxed at 273 hp, going to do some more tuning and run 100% race gas and will post the sheets on those runs.

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sliders, why do you not answer my question regarding the flow rates of the head?

if you were intentionally building a motor of this magnitude, a flow bench would have been your best friend.

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dude that is b/s. by the way a dynojet isnt gona make a 100hp or so mistake i know that from in person. and yea there are multiple people on here with fully built na motors and are noway posible gona hit anything near that. man are you shore you didnt mean to post this in the kat forum? even with a vid its not gona help prove your case cuz you would have the camera just pointing at the car and not show any proof its yours or na.


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