350Z vs RX8

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hi guys!

I was thinking to either get a Z or 8, but after i read the June 2004 Option from Japan, I don't want the Rx-8 anymore. If anyone of you watched the BMI, RX-8 beaten by G35, S2000, WRX, ITR...... honestly, i don't understand why they put that miata in the race, i guess they just don't want the 8 rank last......

from option, I found out that the rx-8 only have about 180whp, 1/4 miles: 16.39s, 0-60: 7.42s........ but the Z got 276 whp. I did have a chance to test drive both of the cars, the Z actually response better and rev smoother than the 8. I am sure that I would like to spend the same amount of money (almost) to the Z, rather than the 8, I am not trying to be a bastard or anything, I am just posting what the Japanese wrote on the option.

PLS share your commons......... thz!


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I like the styling of the 8, but she dont have much juice. I personally want a WRX STi. :D

If you get the 350Z I want to see pictures!!! I think Greedy has a twin turbo kit for it already. That would be sweet.

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yeah, greddy have the twin turbo kit for sale already, and the japanese from option put the kit into Z, i think it was about 7 - 10 psi, the stock psi of e-manage...... and it make 415 whp!!

greddy also have the kit for the RX-8, it is on sale in Japan, it add up 65whp, which come to 245 whp! still good!

honestly, i would rather get the twin turbo RX-7 instead of the 8.

I would like to see the Z race with STI, but i know STI will win for sure!

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if you want extra seats, get the RX-8.

if your smart, get a Z

or the Evo or an STi...

or be a pimp and just buy a G35:D

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The RX-8's only have 180whp? Is that the manual? 'Cuz I know the autos have less impressive numbers. And a 16.4?! That's slower than a stock 240, sheesh. Something's not right there...Atleast the 8's more nimble than the Z. =\

But yeah, G35 coupe for lyphe.

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go for the z!

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I'm told the RX-8's midrange isn't that great, and it's kinda ugly from certain angles, but overall it's a nice car. I'm not going to flame it. It does have a lot more room than a 350Z. As much as I love my Z, I'm not sure I'd recommend one if its to be your only car, because it's strictly 2 seats and has very little luggage room. The Sti and Evo are also worth looking at as they have even more room than the Rx-8 and they kick butt in the performance/handling department. Like 1der said, the Infiniti G is also good choice as it has a rear seat. I say test drive all 4, have a blast and give us your opinions.

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I looked at several cars for about 6 months before getting my 04 350z. I did a whole lot of research and drove them all.Here is how I ranked them.

1) G35c2) 350z3) WRX STI4) EVO VIII5) C4 Vette6) 95 Impalla SS7) RX8

I went with the Z over the G because the differance in price was almost $10K.

The rx8 is a good car but did not have the power I need.The looks of the car kinda got old after I looked at a few.The Z however I never get tired of looking at.I am not tring to bash the 8 I just think the Z is a better car and a much better deal.

Good Luck and let us know what you go with.

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A friend of mine got an RX-8. Not a bad car. Power seems good. It pulled pretty good with 3 people and luggage in the car. Handling seems good too but I never got to actually drive it. Though on the way to Vegas, my friend didn't notice how sharp the offramp curve was and had to stab the brakes while starting the turn. The car stuck to the ground quite well as far as I could tell from the back seats. The back seats are rather roomy for such a sporty car. Although the two people in front were pretty short, I had tons of room for my legs. And the headroom in the rear is quite good which allows you to sit up. This probably helps the leg room to seem more ample since you do not have to slouch in the seat. Rear seat entry was pretty easy as well.

The RX-8 is not my cup of tea, but I can't find one reason to knock it from a performance or functionality standpoint. It's a great car and it's relatively affordable. Not exactly a bad choice.

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jezter, you ranked the c4 vette number 5?!!! I'm shocked. Can you tell us what influenced you to rank it so low?

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No factory warrantee.

I had a 1974 Corvette 454 4-speed which I sold to get my new toy. At first I started looking at used cars( C4, 03 350z, Impala SS) Then decided to get a NEW Z and keep it for a long time. I looked at a few C4's...A 95 Collector edition, a 91 ZR1 and a 96 C4 with low miles.They were all pretty awesome but once I decided to go for a new car they fell to the bottom of the list.

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oh, that explains it. I've never driven one, but from all the reviews I've read, the corvette is a pretty awesome performance car, and represents excellent value for money.

Dont they have a model that pushes over 400 horses?

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a 1974 454? I would have kept that MOFO

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oooo ZR-1:drooling

I loves me some DOHC V8's...

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Yeah the Corvette will always be at the top of my list of cars.

My 74 was pretty cool.I had it for about 5~6 years and put alot of time/$ into it.It still needed paint and some other small parts.

The Zr1 that I looked at was in bad shape.Some dumb azz really whored it.The Collector edition was awesome but was silver/red.I hate red interrior.

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IMO, when looking at cars you have to have in mind what you are expecting it to d ofor you. a STI or EVOVIII will spank a RX8 or 350Z in a drag race but take it from a 35mph roll on andthe AWD's will lag because of the substantial drivetrain loss coefficient present in AWD vehicles. I LOVE AWD (obviously) but it's not the end-all-be-all answer for a car. if you are never in snow and rarely in rain, a nice RWD car with ample meats should do really nicely if you know how to drive it.

everyone has their own list of cars in their own order for their own reason.. and it changes throughout life or at least it has for me... I used to want a badass Nissan hardbody and now I'm Mr. Sprotscar... but whatever you want from a car, judge it on those criteria

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haha, the hardbody!

wonder if someone makes aftermarket fenders that have been cutout so to speak in fiberglass...

not that I'm looking to make a 4x4 capable of not breaking as easy when I jump it over random dirt hills or anything...

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From everything I heard the RX-8 has about 240hp stock... and its one of the smoothest revving engines out there...

I'd go with a 350z and then a RX-8, both cars kick ***

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the rx8 is a nice car, but not in comparison to other sports cars like the 350z. It would easily lose out even in the looks department

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I dunno, Top Gear ran both cars on thier track... they got the exact same times... I have the video

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pills wrote:I dunno, Top Gear ran both cars on thier track... they got the exact same times... I have the video
there ya go, they are equal!

he even has proof!! A VIDEO!!!

you know, i have a video of me passing a ZO6 on a track... must mean that my CRX and a Zo6 are equal.

i drove a rx8... mondo understeer. the interior is pretty nice, much nicer than the Z. I've ran against one at an open track event... not impressed by it's power either (we both came off the same turn and i was pulling on him).

The Z was much quicker on track in the straights...

and why look at a C4? for the price of a Z, you can get a used C5...must better than a C4....

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meh, the C4 is a nice looking car, and the ZR1 will take the C5 in accelleration and top end.

not to mention the cars he talked about are both collector's cars.

and the Z was more or less brand new.

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Ok Mr. CRX HONDA CHAMP,
longrunQ wrote:the rx8 is a nice car, but not in comparison to other sports cars like the 350z. It would easily lose out even in the looks department


He posted that the RX-8 stand no chance against cars like the Z. So I mentioned a situation where the cars were equal, *******.

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Well, 350's understeer too, but I believe most magazines will tell you neither has a huge overall advantage over the other.Besides, it seems a little silly to base a car buying decision on the fact that one is two ticks faster than the other. You gotta test drive them both and see which one you like better or which better fills your needs. Both are clearly fun, well-made street cars. I would love to drive a Rx-8, but not necessarily own one. Rotory engines definitely rock except when they need repair. Then you want to throw a rock at 'em cause they're shockingly expensive to repair. And if you intend to own the car long term, or take it on long road trips, you might want to be a little concerned that your options are more limited to find people that can actually work on Wankel rotory engines as opposed to Nissans, that can be repaired by most mechanics. Personally I would put the Evo and Sti above the RX-8. But that's just me

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yeah, because they can hit 13 second runs.

not like 15 or whatever the RX-8 gets...

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Actually its because they're roomy, hold 4 people, AWD and fun to toss, not because they're a little quicker in a straight line than an RX-8.

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quiet you! it's all about the numbers!

4 door convience is a major selling point though.

I so want one.

no one I know that I hang out with a lot has a 4 door car...hell, they all have 240's for the most part...

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Mr1der wrote:meh, the C4 is a nice looking car, and the ZR1 will take the C5 in accelleration and top end.
but the C5 handles better, brakes better too.
pills wrote:Ok Mr. CRX HONDA CHAMP,

He posted that the RX-8 stand no chance against cars like the Z. So I mentioned a situation where the cars were equal, *******.
i'm still don't understand how your video of two different drivers driving a rx8 and a 350z is by any means proving or disproving the claim? It merely shows, in ONE specific situation, that the two are capable of running at the same level... too bad DRIVING skill plays a huge roll in the grand scheme of things.

and it's "Honda CRX"... not "CRX Honda". I don't hold stock in Hondas either, so... referring me to "Mr CRX" or "Mr Honda" is also ridiculous.

best 4 door for under $30K is either a WRX or a SRT4. but, it's not about 4 doors. it's about a 350z (2 door, 2 seater) and a Rx8 (2/4 door, 4 seater).

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HondaCRX wrote:I don't hold stock in Hondas either, so... referring me to "Mr CRX" or "Mr Honda" is also ridiculous.


If you did, you would be a rich man!

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HondaCRX wrote:i'm still don't understand how your video of two different drivers driving a rx8 and a 350z is by any means proving or disproving the claim? It merely shows, in ONE specific situation, that the two are capable of running at the same level... too bad DRIVING skill plays a huge roll in the grand scheme of things.

HondaCRX wrote:I've ran against one at an open track event... not impressed by it's power either (we both came off the same turn and i was pulling on him).


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