30K Service on my M35, this is what I have planned ...

[MZH]

replace climate control seat filterreplace differential oilreplace engine air filterflush coolantinspect drive beltsreplace in-cabin microfilterflush ATF (use Nissan Matic-J)I changed oil and oil filter 2 months ago and its just been 1K miles since then, so wont do that.

Is there anything else that needed to be done, need advise please.

Also regarding differential oil, should i just go with what they will use or should i buy my own ?What differential oil should be used if I am taking my own in ...

Thanks in advance GURUs ...

[szh]

I recommend using Mobil 1 Synthetic Gear Oil 75W-90 or 75W-140 ... available at Pep Boys ... for the differential oil. You would need two 1qt bottles.

Z

[maxnix]

Air filter in the last 12 months? At 6K per annum, you might get by on 1.5 year interval.

Same for the fuel filter, especially if you live in ethanol area.

http://www.infinitipartsusa.com for OEM and good 3rd party parts llike Nismo and Mobil1 Filters and BG44K.

[StarPD]

Don't forget to flush steering system and brake system, as well as engine cooling fan fluid (not sure if the M has this, but F50 Q45s do). Also, inspect all hoses and chassis electrical connections, especially battery and ground. Check all motor electrical connections. Have entire fuel system cleaned.

Blow out radiator and A/C condenser coils from the rear ro remove accumulated debris, inspect to make sure no paper or plastic bags have been sucked onto their fronts.

Inspect brake pads, have wheel alignment and wheel balance checked, as well as tire pressures. Check wheel lug nut torque on all wheels, check air pressure in spare tire.

Clean and lube sunroof tracks and seat tracks, as well as door latches and hinges and hood latch. Check all rubber bumpers underhood and on doors and trunk. Replace any split or flattened ones.

Use a CD cleaner to clean CD changer.

Time to detail it too, and wax or use whatever protective paint sealant you prefer, clean and treat leather in interior. Shampoo carpeting and floor mats. Do NOT use Armorall or shiny protectant on top of dashboard.

Costs time and money, but well worth it if you intend to keep the vehicle for a long time. You have a great car. Taking care of it properly will pay off in the long run.

[MZH]

Thanks guys, what product is good for interior and dash board ?

[szh]

Thanks guys, what product is good for interior and dash board ?

Lexol for all leather surfaces.

Leatherique is probably also good ... I keep meaning to try the bottles I have.

Z

[StarPD]

Lexol for all leather surfaces.

Leatherique is probably also good ... I keep meaning to try the bottles I have.

Z

Whoa up there.Do NOT use Lexol on your plastic dash top. It will make it shiny and put reflection images on the inside of your windshield and make it difficult to see out in some light conditions. You want your dash top to be as dull and non-reflective as possible.

I wipe my dash top with a lightly damp soft cloth to remove dust and buff dry gently with another soft dry cloth. My old '94 Q45t was 14 years old when I traded it, and it sat in the hot Phoenix Arizona sun. It never dried out or cracked on me, and was like new when I traded it.

Just keep your dash clean and dry, and if you're worried about sun damage, just throw an old WHITE towel over it when you have to leave it parked in the sun all day. Another WHITE towel over your steering wheel would protect it too. Your rear deck will eventually become sun bleached if you leave the car out in the sun all day every day, but that will take a few years. If you're worried about that, another WHITE towel over it will work.

As for the rest of the interior, keeping it clean and dry is the best thing you can do for it. Wiping it down weekly with a clean damp soft cloth to remove dust and surface dirt should be all you need, with a regular treatment with Lexol on the leather. A quick wipedown shouldn't take more than 10 minutes. Just be sure to lightly buff it dry after the wipedown.

[maxnix]

Do NOT use Lexol on your plastic dash top. It will make it shiny and put reflection images on the inside of your windshield and make it difficult to see out in some light conditions. You want your dash top to be as dull and non-reflective as possible.

If you use Lexol Vinylex correctly, it will not leave a glaring finish on your dashboard.

Besides an effecteive infra red rejecting tint like Huper Optik Stark 30, using a insulated reflective windshield sunblock and shades (if supplied on your car) will help. Venting the sunroof and windows will reduce heat a little also. Non tree sap precipitation shade is of course best.

[StarPD]

If you use Lexol Vinylex correctly, it will not leave a glaring finish on your dashboard.

Besides an effecteive infra red rejecting tint like Huper Optik Stark 30, using a insulated reflective windshield sunblock and shades (if supplied on your car) will help. Venting the sunroof and windows will reduce heat a little also. Non tree sap precipitation shade is of course best.

I don't like window tint myself. My wife's new car came with it as part of a "Desert protection package" and I don't like it at all. I had one of my Corvette's windows tinted years ago, and didn't like it then either. I guess it's just a personal thing

I hate trying to see through reflections on the inside of my windshield, so am wary of anything that might have a glossy finish. Never tried Vinylex. If it doesn't leave a shiny surface, I imagine it would be okay.

I now use those spring-loaded sun shades, but didn't on my '94. They are great, only take a second to deploy and place, and fold into small easily stored circles when removed. Something like them is of great benefit to protecting the interior of our Qs.

You're right about venting the interior, Maxnix. I've compared leaving the car in the Phoenix sun closed up tight and then with the windows cracked. Windows slightly opened for venting leaves the interior noticably cooler. So here's a tip:Leave your front windows up, a thief can open the front door with a coat hanger if the window is opened even a little. Instead, set the child locks on the rear doors so they can't be opened with the door handles, and crack the REAR windows a half inch or so. That way, the car is vented to a cross breeze, but no one can get in with a coat hanger.

I don't like leaving the sunroof open for fear some goof will flip a lit cigarette butt into it or throw a cup of pop into the interior through it. It happened to a friend of mine. I know they can do the same through the slightly opened rear windows too, but somehow, it's just not as inviting. Besides, leaving both rear windows cracked allows cross ventilation.

FWIW, almost every time I leave my car under a tree, I get bird poop on it.Bird poop if not removed quickly can etch the paint. I usually try to find a shady place that's NOT under a tree or electric lines, where birds roost and poop. I LOATHE birds!

[szh]

Whoa up there.Do NOT use Lexol on your plastic dash top.

Agreed! . Which is why I said "Lexol for all leather surfaces".

I did not give any recommendations for the plastic surfaces ... 'cause I am not sure what is the best answer. I tend to just use damp cloths for that.

And, fwiw, I use a roll-out Infiniti branded shield for the front windshield when the car is parked outside ... this keeps the sun off the dash surfaces completely.

Z

[MZH]

Found this on Lexol website ...

http://www.autobarn.net/ch1215.html

has anyone tried this ? this is for plastic surface specifically ...

[szh]

Given the quality of their leather products, I'd be willing to try this, yes!

But, I have not done so (first I heard of it actually!) Maxnix mentioned it above, so maybe he has tried it(?)

Z

[M45Caliber]

McGuires also makes a matte finish dash protectant. I use it on all my cars because there is no anoying glare, and because I live in Phx, I also believe that protecting the dash from the UV rays is critical. Although I also use those spring-circle shades, there are days I am too lazy to do so, especially in the winter months.

[M45Caliber]

Meguiars also makes a matte finish dash protectant. I use it on all my cars because there is no anoying glare, and because I live in Phx, I also believe that protecting the dash from the UV rays is critical. Although I also use those spring-circle shades, there are days I am too lazy to do so, especially in the winter months. I THINK this is it... I also recall seeing a matte finish ArmorAll, but I've never used it. New Improved QUIK INTERIOR DETAILER™

The fastest way to clean and protect all interior surfaces, Meguiar’s Quik Interior Detailer maintains the look and feel of interior plastic, vinyl, leather, rubber, metal and audio/video equipment. In just 5 minutes, you can detail the complete interior of your car with this amazing product. Quik Interior Detailer leaves a natural appearance and a fresh fragrance with every use. Try it once and you’ll use it every time you wash your car.

G13616 16 oz. Spray

[szh]

But, I'd avoid ArmorAll for any auto use - even the matte one for dashes (although I do not have any personal experience with that one)!

Reason is that we have lots of people experience here showing how the normal ArmorAll can dry out plastic and cause it to crack badly very badly.

Z

[maxnix]

Given the quality of their leather products, I'd be willing to try this, yes!

But, I have not done so (first I heard of it actually!) Maxnix mentioned it above, so maybe he has tried it(?)

Z

Yes I use and recommend Lexol Vinylex for all vinyl and plastic.
Modified by maxnix at 12:57 PM 6/16/2008

[szh]

Yes i use and recommend Lexol Vinylex for all vinyl and plastic.

Thanks! I will get some and try it out then.

Z

[MZH]

stevens creek nissan quote for 30K service:

differen 70coolant (drain only nissan do not have machine to flush) 85ATF flush 320PS flush 103brake flush 140brake inspect 70allign wheels 150balance 85air filter 30incabin filter 100total at nissan 1153 ...

what do you think guys ??? i went to frontier, guy who i work with is WILLIAM PERRY he was not in today. I will get a quote monday from WILLIAM as well.

Is this a reasonable quote or too much ? for an 06 M35 sports.

[maxnix]

Seems high, but you are in the bay area.

You don't mention fills.

Might try

http://www.bgfindashop.com

And see if one will service the transmission as you require.

If you supply your own parts and fluids, cost should be about $300 less.

For parts,

http://www.infinitipartsusa.com

[M45Caliber]

That quote seems WAY high to me -- on my 03 M45, Infiniti of Superstition Springs quoted (estimates...)

Rear Diff: $75Coolant FLUSH $120Trans Fluid drain/fill (they do not recommend a full flush) $75Brake check -- free (they WANT to sell you brakes) Midas will do this for free as wellTire rotation AND balance - take it Discount Tire or Costco for about $70 for BOTH items They have to take the tires OFF to balance them, I can NOT believe they's stick it to you to mount them on a different corner of the car once they are balanced -- They are screwing you on some of this.Cabin Filter $804-wheel alignment $80Brake Flush - $100PS Flush - $70

That's $600 for all of the above. Throw in another $50 for an oil and filter change, and maybe another $50 if you need an air filter (engine, not cabin).

That's all of the items I had quoted during my last service (32K) The previous owner had some of this done @ 28K when they billed her $600 for the 30K service, but some of it was not done, which is why I asked about it. Find another dealer -- this one has "cleaners" written all over it.

Also -- on the Vinylex - I read the label and it appears that the finish will be glossy if you use it. Read the label and decide before you spray it on. I am using a Mcguiers dash detailer - or dust inhibitor - can't recall the exact description, but you'll recognize it from the above. It is a matte finish when used. Good luck

[MZH]

Yeah I also think it is way to high, it was at NISSAN, I will check with frontier infiniti on monday.

Will keep you guys syncup !!!

[previnwaas]

The service manual says to replace drive belts at 30k - does that make sense to you guys?

[MZH]

I think it depends on the condition of the belt, you can ask them to inspect and if recommended you can replace it.

It is part of premium service package that infiniti gives.

I am still waiting for a quote from them

[MZH]

Premium Service 980 that will includeATF flush,rotate tires,wiper,radiator cap,in cabin filter,replace drive belts,flush coolant,air filter,differential oil,climate control seat filter,lube parts,engine oil and filter ......

on top of this,

fuel injector service 183AC service 133brake flushengine de carb 148PS flush 102brake fluid service 100ATM fluid exchange 134

TOTAL around 1750 everything.

Hows this from frontier infiniti !!!

[MZH]

My question is: can we do or tell them to do specific services and get a quote for the ones i need or do i need to pay 980 for all the stuff that i dont need, like wiper exchange, radiator cap, gas kit etc.

I only need 6 services out of many they are quoting me for 980$.

[szh]

Way over-kill from them.

For example, things like the fuel injector service and engine de-carb are things you can do yourself with a can of BG-44K (assuming it is not a powered rail flush). Don't need to pay them for this!

So, yes, you can be selective in what you want done ... pick and choose.

In regard to their "Premium" service, they also have a Basic one, that contains less stuff and you can add in what else you want. Remember to also ask William for the "Total-Ownership-Experience" discount coupons if he has not included that - look at the Frontier Infiniti web site to sign up for that. You get flyers in the mail for greatly reduced prices on some items.

Z

[previnwaas]

I am coming up on the 30 k myself - previous performed premium maintenance which I agree is overkill.....

Would you agree that these are the musts:

oil changeTranny fluid changeDifferential changecoolant flush

I would say the above 4 have to be done - the other stuff seems like garbage to me....any thoughts??P

[szh]

oil changeTranny fluid changeDifferential changecoolant flush

1. If it has been more than 2 years for your brake fluid, then I would replace that too.

2. Drive belts should be replaced ... particularly if there is even the slightest sign of use (fraying, etc.).

3. And, I assume you meant differential fluid change. (Just kidding you!) Use Mobil 1 Synthetic Gear Oil 75W-90 or 75W-140 for this purpose.

Z

[MZH]

Hi szhosain,

It is (IN RAIL) fuel injector service.What is the difference between this and using BG44K ?

Do I need it at 30K ? the IN RAIL injector service ?

[szh]

Hi szhosain,

It is (IN RAIL) fuel injector service.What is the difference between this and using BG44K ?

Do I need it at 30K ? the IN RAIL injector service ?

You do not absolutely need it. Particularly if you run Premium gas (from a good location) and the car is running normally - without excessive pinging or rattling from inside the engine or hesitation on acceleration when the VDC is off. These would be signs of poor fuel quality, dirty injectors and carbon build-up. Usual solutions are: change to better gas at another location, rev the engine in neutral to get rid of carbon and if that does not work, try BG-44K.

If your car is running mostly normally, or only has a few hiccups on startup, particularly with pinging, then try BG-44K first (only two sessions max) before taking it in - the pressurized rail flush is needed if a BG-44K session does not cure the typical problems you see (hear).

Plus, you can always get a rail flush separately later!

Z