3.5 SE vs Mazdaspeed 3

[adidas2go]

Yup Ive read that definition a few times and used some information I agree with, from it

[08Coupe]

I agree with most of it, but thats mostly describing exotics (they are sports cars). Now in the US sports cars are more associated with cars that a middle class person can actually buy...I consider the altima a sporty coupe but not a sports car. Also 4 doors are sports sedans (ST1, evos, BMW's ect) not sports cars. It almost looks like Top Gear wrote that definition. But as far as my 4k weight, since cars have been getting heavier it was just a rough minimum (weight kills performance)..A lotus is a sports car (well go cart).lol because of its light weight..Maby I should have said ( 10 lbs car to 1 HP or better) 10/1.

[racingtiger03]

Well the Vette has multiple electronic suspension settings along with more powerful engine options than any out of the factory SS or Z28. IE- Grand Sport and ZR1 packages. A sports car doesn't necessarily have to be fast either. A sports car does not require a large, powerful engine, though many do have them. Some classic British sports cars lacked powerful engines, but were known for exceptional handling due to light weight, a well-engineered, balanced chassis, and modern suspension. On tight, twisting roads, such an automobile performs more effectively than a heavier, more powerful luxury sports car with less maneuverability. The RX-8 is most definitely a sports car. It defines a sports car to a T. Exceptional handling, near perfect weight distribution, powerful engine, light weight, and aesthetics. That car was built by Mazda/Ford to be a sports car out of the box with the key element harping on mechanical performance. It wasn't built for any other purpose other than the pure driving experience. Now its debatable whether or not it actually captured that, but it was definitely built to do that

mhmhm. But you are leaving out some EXTREMELY renowned editions of the camaro. The sunoco edition done by GMMG in 02 as well as the Berger SS w/ 400HP and an amazing suspension, cant leave out the d!ck Herrell edition either, and last but not least ZL1 camaro thats just shy of a supercar with a touch over 600HP and a race-car like suspension under it(hit up gmmginc.net for more info on any of those ). As well as the stripper balls to the wall 1LE version of the Z28's that had crank windows, no AC, balsier suspension and engine mounts as well as redesigned transmission mounts. *shrug*... My past years of working on that Z are flooding back.. somebody stop me now lmao.

Wait where are we going here..? Altima coupe FTW!

[adidas2go]

mhmhm. But you are leaving out some EXTREMELY renowned editions of the camaro. The sunoco edition done by GMMG in 02 as well as the Berger SS w/ 400HP and an amazing suspension, cant leave out the d!ck Herrell edition either, and last but not least ZL1 camaro thats just shy of a supercar with a touch over 600HP and a race-car like suspension under it(hit up gmmginc.net for more info on any of those ). As well as the stripper balls to the wall 1LE version of the Z28's that had crank windows, no AC, balsier suspension and engine mounts as well as redesigned transmission mounts. *shrug*... My past years of working on that Z are flooding back.. somebody stop me now lmao.

Wait where are we going here..? Altima coupe FTW!

Well, I was talking about packages offered by Chevy itself. Not companies that built onto them later. This is why I didn't bring up Lingenfelter and such

[racingtiger03]

Well, I was talking about packages offered by Chevy itself. Not companies that built onto them later. This is why I didn't bring up Lingenfelter and such

ok ok, so take away my lovely little sunoco, and d!ck herrells haha. Still though the 1LE and ZL1 were both offered by chevrolet. (not the 98-02 ZL1, the previous body style (93-97) but not sure which it was produed as a ZL1) I remember seeing one of those once selling upwards of 700k.. Dunno if it ever sold though haha!

now wheres that thread jacked smiley when u need it haha!

[adidas2go]

ok ok, so take away my lovely little sunoco, and d!ck herrells haha. Still though the 1LE and ZL1 were both offered by chevrolet. (not the 98-02 ZL1, the previous body style (93-97) but not sure which it was produed as a ZL1) I remember seeing one of those once selling upwards of 700k.. Dunno if it ever sold though haha!

Well, if my knowledge stands correct. The ZL1 you refer to, was never sold to the public and only 1 was ever made (post 1969). So take that one away too. Ill give you the 1LE, that was a most definitely a sports car.

[Hussain]

I guess the sport tuned suspension on the 3.5se from factory, the 17" enkei wheels over 16" wheel on the 2.5 are not sportier upgrades??

the 3.5se has enkei wheels???

[mcheddadi]

Yeah, if you check behind the wheel, you'll find Enkei's infinity symbol

[adidas2go]

hmmm thats interesting

[racingtiger03]

nissan with stock enkei.. wow.

1LE = sports car. K i'm happy with that one haha.

So what happened to the OP, did you ever decide which of the two you were going with? doesnt seem like you can go wrong with either one!

[AltiCoupeDriver]

Yes you can go wrong. The Mazda looks fugly.