2nd gen Rogue gas range?

[Dmxo]

Heyy all! New to this forum & I just have a question - I bought a new 2016 Rogue at the beginning of the month and when I drove out of the dealership my gas range said I had 370 miles until empty (I was like whaaaaat!?) anyway so when time came to fill up I filled my tank completely and it only said 270, so I just assumed they overloaded the tank, then when I gassed up again yesterday the range until empty was 260. So I looked up the specs online and it said the tank holds 377 miles when full. So I'm pretty much at a loss here has anyone else experienced this problem? What do I do - thank you in advanced !

[Sigster]

The range / remaining distance until empty is always just an estimate based on the remaining fuel in the tank and the mpg during recent driving.
If you recently drove in the city and/or other driving with low mpg (lots of stop and go, all accessories like A/C running, hard acceleration, ...) the remaining range will show less.
If you then would start driving at highway speeds with cruise control on and no stopping the estimated range would creep higher.

The calculation is simple and always the same:
(recent mpg) * (gallons of fuel remaining in tank) = Estimated range / Distance 'Til Empty

What differs between models/manufacturers is the algorithm for estimating recent mpg.

Anyway, the most important figure is your actual fuel mileage (mpg).
I assume your Rogue shows that.
You can verify the accuracy yourself by tracking your fill-ups and your miles driven.
Mine (2008 Rogue) seems to estimate 2...3 mpg higher than actual.

[Rogue One]

This is an ongoing complaint about both generations of the Rogue, having been discussed ad nauseam. BTW we have an incredible SEARCH feature on this forum.

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[Rogue Jarhead]

About five years ago I bought my 82 year old mom a bright red mercury cougar. A young girl I know was buying a new car and wanted to sell this one so she made me a great deal. So my 82 year old mom is driving around in a sports car (somewhat). We'll that thing had more lights and gauges than she could comprehend. A light came on when the weather got cold, another came on for maintenance , and several others would periodically light and go out for various reasons. Every time a light came on my mom thought isis was setting off a bomb. She would call me, stop by my house, or work and tell me this or that light was on, and what should she do? Will it hurt the car?

Finally I had to tell her to ignore all the lights and I just checked it once a month or so to see what was going on. All this to say, IGNOR IT,if you really have to know ,calculate your mileage and range with a pen and paper. Those trip computers are only somewhat reliable anyway.

There are only 3-4 gauges you really need to be concerned about. Gas gauge, you don't want to run out, I fill mine when it goes below 1/4, temp gauge, speedometer, ammeter, a check engine light that blinks. Just about every other readout is superfluous information that only serves to add to the whole distracted driving equation.

[Flashfox]

OK ... I am told that my 2016 Rogue SL should give me 30+ mpg. I VERY RARELY get even close to that. In city driving I get 19-22 mpg while on the highway I only once crossed the 30 mpg. I recently drove my Rogue from Florida to California and I NEVER got any consistent mileage in the 30 mpg range.

I tried in normal and ECO modes. I am NOT someone who slams on the gas peddle for quick accelerations either.

So please share with me if this mileage is normal as the dealership doesn't find anything wrong. Now I had a 2013 Altima SL and I was getting 30+ mpg on a regular basis. What am I missing here???

[chunt5]

Go look at fuelly.com and you will see some real world numbers for gas mileage on our Rouges.
Looks like you are not far off the average. I am getting about the same mileage on my Rogue that I got on my 2016 V6 Altima.
http://www.fuelly.com/car/nissan/rogue

[Rogue One]

This topic has been discussed ad nauseam. EPA tests highway speed at 55mph. All car manufacturers design their vehicles to provide optimum fuel efficiency at that speed. If you're doing 65~70mph on the highway (posted highway speed limits in FL), then you obviously won't get the mpg that's listed for your vehicle.

Your Mileage WILL Vary

EPA fuel economy estimates are based on standardized tests designed to reflect "typical" driving conditions and driver behavior, but several factors can affect MPG significantly:

• How & where you drive
• Vehicle condition & maintenance
• Fuel variations
• Vehicle variations
• Engine break-in

Therefore, the EPA ratings are a useful tool for comparing the fuel economies of different vehicles but may not accurately predict the average MPG you will get.

[datechboss101]

My Rogue gets lots of HWY and city miles and I barely break the 30+ MPG. I am the type of guy who doesn't give a damn about fuel effiency when I drive, otherwise I woulda bought me a f***ing Prius or a stupid Tesla. I always average 27 MPG but that is reasonable with A/C on for Florida's weather and lots of stop and go traffic or 75 mph on cruise control on the turnpike.

[Flashfox]

Thanks ... I only wondered as my previous 13' Altima SL crossed the 30 mpg mark on a regular basis. Yes, I know, the Rogue has a larger footprint and is less aerodynamic but I had read several user posts were they stated they were getting 30+ mpg and I wondered how the heck they were doing it :-)

I know, published mpg is NOT under real life driving but I was just curious about those who get 30+ on a Rogue. In any event, I like this Rogue, even with the mileage :-)

[colonelcasey]

Drive like a grandma and you'll get the EPA estimates. I never got close to it. Based on the trip computer only, I usually got anywhere between 16 and 22 in the city and mid to upper 20's on the highway. The lower end was usually in winter. I only got in the 30's a few times, usually highway driving after the engine was warmed up. Just accept you'll never get anywhere close to EPA estimates. I think the last year of driving for me where 80% was in the city, I averaged just over 20 MPG on the trip computer.

[Rogue One]

Thanks ... I only wondered as my previous 13' Altima SL crossed the 30 mpg mark on a regular basis. Yes, I know, the Rogue has a larger footprint and is less aerodynamic but I had read several user posts were they stated they were getting 30+ mpg and I wondered how the heck they were doing it :-)

I know, published mpg is NOT under real life driving but I was just curious about those who get 30+ on a Rogue. In any event, I like this Rogue, even with the mileage :-)

Glad to know. Sorry if I came off too harsh.

Drive like a grandma and you'll get the EPA estimates...

Or even better. My DD is a 2012 Honda CR-V. MPG: Up to 23 city / 31 highway.

[colonelcasey]

That's gotta be from a downhill run! Never saw my Rogue ever do anything like that sadly.

[datechboss101]

Thanks ... I only wondered as my previous 13' Altima SL crossed the 30 mpg mark on a regular basis. Yes, I know, the Rogue has a larger footprint and is less aerodynamic but I had read several user posts were they stated they were getting 30+ mpg and I wondered how the heck they were doing it :-)

I know, published mpg is NOT under real life driving but I was just curious about those who get 30+ on a Rogue. In any event, I like this Rogue, even with the mileage :-)

Glad to know. Sorry if I came off too harsh.

Drive like a grandma and you'll get the EPA estimates...

Or even better. My DD is a 2012 Honda CR-V. MPG: Up to 23 city / 31 highway.

My DD is my Accord and I get same MPGs as the Rogue on the Accord... Kinda pointless for me to drive a Rogue if a 90s Honda w/ 4spd AT gets the same gas mileage as CUV w/ 1spd CVT. Our MDX gets the advertised city MPG of the Rogue and that has a V6 w/ 9spds, in the city. Probably, the decreased MPG has to do with the underpowered/underrated Horses or something. The ECO option doesn't do s*** at all other than make the gas mileage to tank even worse. My dad for some reason achieves 33+ MPG once in a while, and I don't understand how he does that.

[prj]

Need to drive the Rogue nicely and use non-ethanol gas if possible.

On a 60 mile trip yesterday I registered 36.4 mpg on my 2018 Rogue

[elebish]

I have a 2017 SL and have averaged 31 mpg making a 2000 mile trip from MO to PA and back with 3 grownups. I generally drive the marked speed limit or a bit higher. I used the "eco" mode!

[Rogue Jarhead]

If your mileage sucks, get one of those obd readers you can plug in the obd port and monitor engine functions on your phone. You can monitor speed , rpm, exact water temperature and a host of other functions. Monitor your water temperature, the Rogue is set up to run at 190* . It should during the summer especially, get right up to that temperature and stay within 5-10* on one side or the other. In other words you should see a lot of 190 but if you’re going up a hill it might hit 205 and likewise going down a hill it might go to 180*, in both instances it should return to 190* after you hit flat ground.

Your vehicle will get its best mileage at the correct operating temperature. If the thermostat has failed, it usually fails in the open position so your engine never reaches optimum temperature. Thermostats used to fail closed and the car would overheat and you could destroy your engine. The only real way to know if it’s good or bad is to monitor the temperature with a gauge of some sort or one of those obd readers paired with your phone. The dashboard heat gauge is only approximate.

An additional advantage is you can also read and clear trouble codes with one of those readers. No more going to autozone and getting their people to read your codes. One of those devices is available on Amazon for less than $15 and you download a free app. Or you can spend a bit more and get a better gauge. I have an ultragauge blue, it works with my iPhone, but it’s a bit more pricey.

By the way my Rogue has one of those mpg guesstimate meters, since I track almost every fill up I can tell you it’s almost never right. They are off anywhere from 3%-20% depending on temperature, humidity, rain, snow, traffic, road conditions and how heavy the operators foot is. Mpg’s are a guess until you pull out the pen and paper and do it the old fashioned way.

I track my mileage. Years ago I owned a 1983 AMC Eagle, 4spd, 4wd was selectable with a little dashboard lever, pretty cool, red and black rather sporty. It had a 4 cyl engine 2.5 I think, weight was about the same as a Rogue. It got about 25mpg , the modern Rogue gets ohhh... about 25mpg. As you can see vast strides have been made in the mpg department.....or not. That AMC was probably the worst car I’ve ever owned by the way.

[Frzninvt]

During the warmer months I get 30mpg or more all the time with 65% city/35% Hwy mix. I track with Fuelly and have done so since I bought it. Last fill up I got 31.9Mpg. Check Fuelly for overall averages by Rogue year. I do not use the Eco function either.

[prj]

Your vehicle will get its best mileage at the correct operating temperature. If the thermostat has failed, it usually fails in the open position so your engine never reaches optimum temperature.

Uhhhhh...Why would a thermostat fail on a 2 year old or new car?

[Rogue Jarhead]

Your vehicle will get its best mileage at the correct operating temperature. If the thermostat has failed, it usually fails in the open position so your engine never reaches optimum temperature.

Uhhhhh...Why would a thermostat fail on a 2 year old or new car?

When your fuel mileage is in the dumpster, often there is a reason. Thermostat is just one of the possibilities, yes it should last a long time, but bad parts abound, look at the front wheel bearings on the rogues, or the CVT's for that matter. Other possibilities would be stuck brake sliders, bad fuel, crappy tires, cracks/splits in your air intake system, bad MAF etc.

[prj]

Uhhhhh...Why would a thermostat fail on a 2 year old or new car?

Thermostat is just one of the possibilities.... Other possibilities would be stuck brake sliders, bad fuel, crappy tires, cracks/splits in your air intake system, bad MAF etc.

None of this would be prevalent on a newer car. If anything is contributing to bad gas mileage on a 2016 or newer Rogue it would be using ethanol gas, bad driving habits such as high speed take offs from stop light/stop sign or you live an an area where this a lot of stop and go driving (big city with traffic jams) or higher speed limits that exceed 70mph+

I'm constantly getting the gas mileage I posted in the pic above. But...I don't use ethanol gas, I don't live in a big city with stop and go traffic and the speed limits around here are 55mph.

[datechboss101]

A bump on this old thread, but I am not understanding what's the issue with my Rogue's gas range remaining till empty. I exercise using cruise control and driving the Florida's Turnpike Speed limit which is 70 MPH, while not using the ECO mode. And I am not getting the expected range, as I always get around 300 miles only. And I filled the tank from less than a tank remaining to full tank, and always see around 300 miles of range remaining. What is the issue with this? And I am getting 28 MPG whenever I shut down the car, and I only have been putting HWY miles these past 3 months, which is roughly 500 miles per week, on the turnpike.

[amc49]

There is nothing to understand about 'superfluous' systems (thank you post #4) that only clog up minds that cannot understand simple gas gauges to begin with. The post above yours said it all. Range is simply silly to get worried about to begin with as it has no basis in reality even on the by luck closest ones there are.

Said in the simplest way, the more information you give those who do not pick up the more basic things the more 'superfluous' worthless questions you will get.

To start with...............the range is fake news built on top of more fake news (the normal fuel level gauge).

[datechboss101]

There is nothing to understand about 'superfluous' systems (thank you post #4) that only clog up minds that cannot understand simple gas gauges to begin with. The post above yours said it all. Range is simply silly to get worried about to begin with as it has no basis in reality even on the by luck closest ones there are.

Said in the simplest way, the more information you give those who do not pick up the more basic things the more 'superfluous' worthless questions you will get.

To start with...............the range is fake news built on top of more fake news (the normal fuel level gauge).

I get that too, but I am getting the same range as my 6th Gen Accord, which has a lower HP and 4spd AT. And I always have Trip A as my how miles do I get out of my tank range tracker. I am at a point of giving up on this CUV as a highway driver.

[Rogue Jarhead]

The Honda probably has a different size fuel tank than the Rogue . So even if the Honda gets the same per tank range as the Rogue and the Honda has a smaller tank, the Honda is getting better mileage than the Rogue.


.. ...... Miles. Gallons. Mpg
Rogue. 440 div by 17 = 25.8

Honda 440 div by 14 =. 31.4

[datechboss101]

The Honda probably has a different size fuel tank than the Rogue . So even if the Honda gets the same per tank range as the Rogue and the Honda has a smaller tank, the Honda is getting better mileage than the Rogue.


.. ...... Miles. Gallons. Mpg
Rogue. 440 div by 17 = 25.8

Honda 440 div by 14 =. 31.4

The Rogue has the 14.5 gal tank, while the Accord has a 17.1 gal tank. I have pushed the Accord to near empty to the point the low fuel light came on, where I got nearly 370, with 3 gals remaining.

Even with using cruise control @65 MPH, I get more range on the Accord, not on the Rogue.

This is where I am not understanding about this Rogue at all. I get best range and MPGs when I set the cruise control to 50-55 MPH, but thats on US-1 from Miami to Key West only, as most of the highways and toll roads here have 70 MPH as the speed limit. I might try 93 into the Rogue for once and see what's the difference in MPG and range. If I see any benefits, I am going to be staying with 93 unless otherwise, I'm going to switch back to the Accord.

[Rogue One]

Are you really trying to compare the MPG's between a Rogue and an Accord? Besides having different size gas tanks, there's a significant difference in weight between the two vehicles. They're not in the same class, so trying to compare mileage is meaningless.

Base Curb Weight:
1997-2002 Honda Accord Sedan 2,712 lbs
2016 Nissan Rogue FWD 3,408 lbs / AWD 3,618 lbs

[amc49]

There is nothing to understand when there is nothing valid enough TO understand due to improper organization of facts......................

[datechboss101]

Are you really trying to compare the MPG's between a Rogue and an Accord? Besides having different size gas tanks, there's a significant difference in weight between the two vehicles. They're not in the same class, so trying to compare mileage is meaningless.

Base Curb Weight:
1997-2002 Honda Accord Sedan 2,712 lbs
2016 Nissan Rogue FWD 3,408 lbs / AWD 3,618 lbs

I'm just saying something just doesn't add up right if I am getting the same gas range in a 19 year old Honda and a 2 year old Nissan. Also, both vehicles do weight roughly the same, 3000 lbs for the Accord and Rogue. Also, I do lots of highway miles, so getting the 28 MPG on a Rogue isn't acceptable for the highway, otherwise I would just be using the Accord, which also gets 28 MPG combined. I might call EPA soon, because this is really a rip off, since I am exercising my methods of being fuel efficient, so I don't have to fill 14 gals per gas station trip. I already got Nissan USA involved and going to have some mechanics check this.

[Lgb0250]

The two vehicles do not weigh anything close to one another. The Accord is 600 lbs lighter than the Rogue. Easy to find by just googling it. The EPA does their highway mileage testing numbers at only 48Mph! So at 70mph pulling 600 more lbs down the road, guess what? If you’re not calculating the mpg yourself and only relying on the vehicle computer you never will get your true mpg numbers. Sounds like you are just spinning your wheels to me. If your getting 28mpg while driving at speeds up to 22mph above their test speeds and still coming within 5mpg than their estimates they will at least have a good laugh.

[Rogue One]

The two vehicles do not weigh anything close to one another. The Accord is 600 lbs lighter than the Rogue. Easy to find by just googling it. The EPA does their highway mileage testing numbers at only 48Mph! So at 70mph pulling 600 more lbs down the road, guess what? If you’re not calculating the mpg yourself and only relying on the vehicle computer you never will get your true mpg numbers. Sounds like you are just spinning your wheels to me. If your getting 28mpg while driving at speeds up to 22mph above their test speeds and still coming within 5mpg than their estimates they will at least have a good laugh.