2nd gen Rogue gas range?

[amc49]

In no way does a Rogue weigh 3000 pounds..............page 7. 3400-3600.

http://nissannews.com/media_storage/dow ... _10-15.pdf

The Accord weighs some 2700 pounds if a sedan..................the tab to the right of..........

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honda_Acc ... eneration)

Again I say.............'there is nothing valid enough TO understand due to improper organization of facts'. Which themselves are now missing, going from bad to worse.

[datechboss101]

BTW, forgot to mention, but I get really picky about every single dang thing about a car.... I think I have an OCD thing with cars.

In no way does a Rogue weigh 3000 pounds..............page 7. 3400-3600.

http://nissannews.com/media_storage/dow ... _10-15.pdf

The Accord weighs some 2700 pounds if a sedan..................the tab to the right of..........

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honda_Acc ... eneration)

Again I say.............'there is nothing valid enough TO understand due to improper organization of facts'. Which themselves are now missing, going from bad to worse.

Wikipedia ain't correct m8... Go to local DMV and see what they say the curb weight is. And that car is heavy, whereas the Rogue is light. This can be felt when going off ramps and during accelerations.

The two vehicles do not weigh anything close to one another. The Accord is 600 lbs lighter than the Rogue. Easy to find by just googling it. The EPA does their highway mileage testing numbers at only 48Mph! So at 70mph pulling 600 more lbs down the road, guess what? If you’re not calculating the mpg yourself and only relying on the vehicle computer you never will get your true mpg numbers. Sounds like you are just spinning your wheels to me. If your getting 28mpg while driving at speeds up to 22mph above their test speeds and still coming within 5mpg than their estimates they will at least have a good laugh.

It's not 600 lbs lighter, its only 300-400 lbs lighter than the Rogue, yet the Rogue feels the lightest vehicle in the garage. Also, read above comment.

The Accord we own doesn't weigh 2xxxlbs, since the DMV in Fla, has it at 3xxxlbs. Like I said before, I have dedicated Trip A for gas range, and that tells me a that I don't have a good tank range. My point is, I don't WOT on the HWY (unless some douche tries to push me) and I still get mediocre gas range. As I am concern, I am trying to give this dang car back to my parents, and from the looks of it I am stuck with this thing for few more years, and I cannot modify it at all.

I have driven both cars to a fraction of gas remaining, and no surprise, the Accord has a better range. So when this Friday evening rush hour comes, I'm gonna take this long route instead of FTP (which is the faster route and my usual route), and set my CC at the posted speed limit and see what the difference is.

And, I have also done this doing 65 and got basically the same range and issue when I do 70. Now, if Rogue One or any NICOclub member wants to give this a try and do this run from exit 25 on FTP to exit 26x on FTP, I am happy to see what the results are, using the same conditions I use, which is CC @70 MPH, a/c at speed 3.

Currently, I have disabled the range and MPG screens, until I get some answer(s) from Nissan USA (other than do the stupid $xxx.xx Carbon cleanup thing), EPA, and my Trip A readings. And also in conjuction with my test, I will contact FHP to see how much I can go under the speed limit for specific roads. However, I am going to get to the bottom of this and if necessary, I will take action cause this is a rip-off, especially people who practice proper fuel efficient driving techniques.

[prj]

I'm not sure why you are trying to compare the 2 cars. As others have pointed different gas tank sizes, and the Accord weighs less. On top of it, the Accord is a lower profile car than the Rogue so it has less wind resistance.

As far as the Range to Empty is concerned...that's calculated based on recent driving habits and recent average MPG. In my Rogue I've seen the Range to Empty vary from mid 300's to high 400's.

Seriously dude...you're comparing apples to oranges and Nissan/EPA is laughing at you if you actually reported it and think there is something wrong with your car.

[datechboss101]

I'm not sure why you are trying to compare the 2 cars. As others have pointed different gas tank sizes, and the Accord weighs less. On top of it, the Accord is a lower profile car than the Rogue so it has less wind resistance.

As far as the Range to Empty is concerned...that's calculated based on recent driving habits and recent average MPG. In my Rogue I've seen the Range to Empty vary from mid 300's to high 400's.

Seriously dude...you're comparing apples to oranges and Nissan/EPA is laughing at you if you actually reported it and think there is something wrong with your car.

So you are basically saying I should slamm the daily by a couple inches lower, remove the spare tire, and few other things, etc? And my driving habits has been consistent for the past 8k miles, which was using CC @posted speed limit, A/C at 3-5. What else do you want me to do? Cause, the readouts from the dang thing tells me that I am doing both city and highway driving, when I am only doing highway. And I have mentioned the Accord, to bring up a point about how much both vehicle's gas range is.

As of today, my experiment begins, and I have resetted every gas/mpg related screen so I can get an accurate reading. And If this thing doesn't even show me the highway numbers, then we got an issue with Nissan and EPA.

[Lgb0250]

Ok, I’ve read this whole thread over again, god help me, and it appears you are basing all your mileage’s off of the computer! What a waste of energy. The best complaint you can possibly have is a faulty gas gauge and I believe the EPA, after they quit laughing, would refer you to your dealer for an explantion that you may or may not understand. Best case scenario is it ends up being a warranty claim. Rather than do all this crazy testing just take it to your dealer and ask them for an explanation.

I never use the vehicle gas gauge to compute my mileage anyway. They are notoriously unreliable. It’s not rocket science. A paper, pen and calculator will work just fine.

But again, you say you’re getting 28mpg highway at 70mph. The EPA says you could possibly get as high as 33 at 48Mph! Now, if I worked at the EPA and got your complaint in writing I would show it the way to the circle file.

[datechboss101]

UPDATE: After a painfully 5 1/2 hours of near tiring of driving and almost going off the lane multiple times, I got an average of 41 MPG, according to the computer. To achieve this, I went full grandma mode, which meant, ECO mode ON, Cruise Control @ 60MPH, and A/C @ 3, and NO WOT or use of pedal. And right now I still have roughly 70% of gas remaining, according to the needle, as that is just a hair past the first tick mark after the full mark.

Not going to fill the tank till the needle literally goes to Empty, so I can see what range I get, and what is my average MPG for this tank. Next week I will be driving 60 MPH, in normal mode; following week, 60 MPH in Sport mode. After doing 60 MPH, I will increase to 65 MPH and repeat the same process, and then 61, 62, 63, 64, 66, 67, 68, and 69 MPH respectively. However, I could do 55 - 59 MPH, but then I am in jeopardy of being pulled over, cause I'll be doing 15 MPH under the speed limit.

Not sure how EPA tested this, but their tests are a joke. Also, I need to figure out why this car sucks rear ends when doing 70 MPH. And I got a full year to do this experiment, as I will be using multiple forms to calculate the data.

[amc49]

As I learned after years of garage work.............fix the driver first, then fixing the car is so much easier.......

[Mrlunchbox]

Doesn't is say somewhere its EPA "estimated" MPG?? not actual?

[datechboss101]

Well, lets just say the Rogue can go pass 500 miles per tank.... And I got a basic idea of how these tests should have been done instead.

I will be writing up a whole new thread on how to achieve 500+ miles, if anyone wants to know.

[prj]

So you are basically saying I should slamm the daily by a couple inches lower, remove the spare tire, and few other things, etc? And my driving habits has been consistent for the past 8k miles, which was using CC @posted speed limit, A/C at 3-5. What else do you want me to do? Cause, the readouts from the dang thing tells me that I am doing both city and highway driving, when I am only doing highway. And I have mentioned the Accord, to bring up a point about how much both vehicle's gas range is.

Are you really that obtuse?

What I am saying you are comparing apples to oranges when trying to compare the Rogue to an Accord. 2 totally different vehicles where you can't compare range or gas mileage.

[prj]

UPDATE: After a painfully 5 1/2 hours of near tiring of driving and almost going off the lane multiple times, I got an average of 41 MPG, according to the computer. To achieve this, I went full grandma mode, which meant, ECO mode ON, Cruise Control @ 60MPH, and A/C @ 3, and NO WOT or use of pedal. And right now I still have roughly 70% of gas remaining, according to the needle, as that is just a hair past the first tick mark after the full mark.

Not going to fill the tank till the needle literally goes to Empty, so I can see what range I get, and what is my average MPG for this tank. Next week I will be driving 60 MPH, in normal mode; following week, 60 MPH in Sport mode. After doing 60 MPH, I will increase to 65 MPH and repeat the same process, and then 61, 62, 63, 64, 66, 67, 68, and 69 MPH respectively. However, I could do 55 - 59 MPH, but then I am in jeopardy of being pulled over, cause I'll be doing 15 MPH under the speed limit.

Not sure how EPA tested this, but their tests are a joke. Also, I need to figure out why this car sucks rear ends when doing 70 MPH. And I got a full year to do this experiment, as I will be using multiple forms to calculate the data.

You have some serious OCD dude. Just drive and don't worry about it.

And educate yourself at the same time...

https://www.edmunds.com/fuel-economy/he ... tings.html

https://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/why_differ.shtml

https://www.caranddriver.com/features/t ... -estimates

[prj]

Well, lets just say the Rogue can go pass 500 miles per tank.... And I got a basic idea of how these tests should have been done instead.

I will be writing up a whole new thread on how to achieve 500+ miles, if anyone wants to know.

I don't think anyone here has that much OCD to care.

[crackon4488]

During the warmer months I get 30mpg or more all the time with 65% city/35% Hwy mix. I track with Fuelly and have done so since I bought it. Last fill up I got 31.9Mpg. Check Fuelly for overall averages by Rogue year. I do not use the Eco function either.

Hi..What is your avg speed on the highway?Do you use sport mode or just normal?..thanks

[kdon4]

Good morning.

I purchased a 2019 Nissan Rogue SV at the end of January. Thus far I've had 4 fill ups and have had average MPGs of 24,23,21,21. This model is rated for 26 City 33 highway. I do a combination of both city and highway and I don't consider myself an aggressive driver. My previous 09 Nissan Altima which was rated 23 city and 31 highway would normally get between 24-26 MPG. This is my first brand new car so I wasn't sure if I'm just overreacting or if others may be seeing this issue. I guess I just expected better results. Could this be an issue with the vehicle? Any recommendations?

[Papapoil]

Fuel consumption will be slightly higher during break in period. It should improve after 2000 km.

[Rogue One]

Good morning.

I purchased a 2019 Nissan Rogue SV at the end of January. Thus far I've had 4 fill ups and have had average MPGs of 24,23,21,21. This model is rated for 26 City 33 highway. I do a combination of both city and highway and I don't consider myself an aggressive driver. My previous 09 Nissan Altima which was rated 23 city and 31 highway would normally get between 24-26 MPG. This is my first brand new car so I wasn't sure if I'm just overreacting or if others may be seeing this issue. I guess I just expected better results. Could this be an issue with the vehicle? Any recommendations?

This is an ongoing complaint about both generations of the Rogue, having been discussed ad nauseam. BTW we have an incredible SEARCH feature on this forum, key word is MPG.

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EPA Recalculates MPG Ratings for 2017
Beware: The EPA has changed how it calculates window-sticker gas mileage for 2017 in an effort to better reflect real-world mileage, according to the agency and automakers. And the agency has announced almost nothing about it.

That means that more than a quarter of all new cars could see a reduction in their EPA combined mileage. As a result, new-car shoppers will see mileage numbers on the window stickers of some 2017 model-year cars that are lower than their 2016 predecessors, even though the cars have no mechanical differences.

A final thought. Manufacture's guesstimates for mileage are AVERAGES, and are NOT GUARANTEED. There are far too many factors (terrain, fuel quality, tires, etc.) to guarantee that you will in fact get the mileage they suggest. As noted elsewhere in this thread, I posted that I was able to get 40mpg's in a 2012 Honda CRV, yet it's only rated for UP TO 23 city / 31 highway. This was done on flat terrain with limited stops, on roads with a maximum speed limit of 50mph. Now, that same vehicle gets 19-21 mpg's in what would best be described as city driving. That's well under what was advertised but oh well.

[datechboss101]

Please read the posts that I made in this thread. I got my 2016 to go up to 520 miles in a gas tank (no fill up in between). Note: I was using cruise control at 60 MPH on FL Turnpike for 250 miles each way. Granted, I may have driven a bit of city miles too, but I still ended up with getting a range of 520 miles under certain conditions.