2nd Gen Rogue - BSW/LDW Malfunction

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Just bought a brand new 2014 Rogue SL with Premium Package last night. The first day out the BSW/LDW error lamps came after about 20 minutes and the systems stopped working. The manual is very informative about this and says merely that the systems are not functioning properly. No kidding.

I tried searching here for similar posts for the 2014, but couldn't find anything. Obviously, this is going back to the dealer tomorrow to be checked out. Not a great showing to have electronics failure on the first day.

Other than that, my wife loves the car and is very happy. I hope to visit here often.
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Blind Spot and Lane Departure Warning Failure. They may tell you to keep the camera clean, keep the washer fluid full, and take anything chrome or shinny off the car around the camera area. It's a BS answer. The dealership will have to re-calibrate the System with special targets Nissan should have supplied to the dealership.

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I've received this error message several times. I noticed it happens during snow, or when the car was really dirty, at night. Sometimes restarting the system quickly by pressing the switch on the lower left switch panel cures the problems, but sometimes, it only solves it for few minutes.

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Rogue One wrote:Blind Spot and Lane Departure Warning Failure. They may tell you to keep the camera clean, keep the washer fluid full, and take anything chrome or shinny off the car around the camera area. It's a BS answer. The dealership will have to re-calibrate the System with special targets Nissan should have supplied to the dealership.
Good to know. I'm taking it there in the morning and will insist on this.
iRogue wrote:I've received this error message several times. I noticed it happens during snow, or when the car was really dirty, at night. Sometimes restarting the system quickly by pressing the switch on the lower left switch panel cures the problems, but sometimes, it only solves it for few minutes.
Thanks. My wife turned the system off and on again multiple times. It works for awhile and then goes to error again. The car hasn't even had a chance to get dirty being only a day old, but I'll remember to keep the cameras clean.

Thanks, guys.

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For the last 20 years of my driving history, I never move into the opposite lane and I never crash into a car on my blind spot.

I am glad that my "old" Rogue has No such gizmos. One -sorry "two" - less warning lights to worry about. :facepalm:

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Qashqai wrote:For the last 20 years of my driving history, I never move into the opposite lane and I never crash into a car on my blind spot.

I am glad that my "old" Rogue has No such gizmos. One -sorry "two" - less warning lights to worry about. :facepalm:
i agree 1000000000000000000000% times with your post :)

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Qashqai wrote:For the last 20 years of my driving history, I never move into the opposite lane and I never crash into a car on my blind spot.

I am glad that my "old" Rogue has No such gizmos. One -sorry "two" - less warning lights to worry about. :facepalm:
While I'll agree that fewer bells and whistles means fewer things that can go wrong, the Rogue really does have very large blind spots. It's too bad that today's crossover designs lend themselves to poor visibility and the thought is just to patch the fault with electronics that can ultimately fail.

We brought the car in today and they reprogrammed and recalibrated the cameras/sensors. We'll see how it behaves during the week.

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Funny you mention the snow/rain issue.

Don't mean to hijack.
But I noticed that since I purchased the car . (That very weekend) whenever it snows or rains a moderate amount.
My BSW LDW AWD and CHASIS malfunction lights turn on.
Been to the dealer 3 times (once with lights on) and they reset it but can't seem to find the problem.

Like stated above. Most of the time a quick off and back on and usually works again. But sometimes. Stays on for a day or 2 then when the weather dries up all is normal.

Really annoying. As the car is factory stock
all the dealer has done us change a horn harness from front. But issue happened again.

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coleman wrote:
Qashqai wrote:For the last 20 years of my driving history, I never move into the opposite lane and I never crash into a car on my blind spot.

I am glad that my "old" Rogue has No such gizmos. One -sorry "two" - less warning lights to worry about. :facepalm:
While I'll agree that fewer bells and whistles means fewer things that can go wrong, the Rogue really does have very large blind spots. It's too bad that today's crossover designs lend themselves to poor visibility and the thought is just to patch the fault with electronics that can ultimately fail.

We brought the car in today and they reprogrammed and recalibrated the cameras/sensors. We'll see how it behaves during the week.
I also thought the Rogue had large blind spots when I first started driving it. Then I got used to the width of the vehicle, which is a full six inches wider (not counting side mirrors) than my other smaller car. Knowing how images are reflected in the mirror makes it easy to compensate. I'm still in the habit of looking over my shoulder before changing lanes in the Rogue, because I developed the habit when I first started driving it, but my mirrors have never failed me. In my little Toyota, the visibility is so good that I hardly ever have to use the passenger side mirror. Just using the rear view mirror is sufficient 90% of the time and hardly has a blind spot. The combination of all 3 mirrors together eliminates all blind spots on the Toyota. I was briefly driving a Tiguan rental over the winter, and that also took some mental adjustments before I learned how to use the mirrors properly. On that vehicle, the mirrors themselves are much smaller than the Rogue's mirrors.

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First time driving in the rain. Not pouring rain, but more than just a drizzle. When drops collect at the bottom of the mirror, the BSW gives false-positives. This was during in-town driving.

Will keep an eye out on any other false-positives...

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I noticed the also during light rain more at night, there is a lot of false warnings. I guess there nothing the dealer can do to fix this.

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im assuming you guys are talking about the side light that makes u aware of a positive reading.


no i believe im talking about the Dash itself.
stating malfunction

awd cuts off only fwd. works.
awd lock do-sent respond.
driving aids fail
i turn it off and sometimes clears. if not it takes hours to reset itself.

been 3 times to dealer changed 1 harness by horn. (supposedly cut) (bull)
rained all day today and had my camera on the whole time. .. funny..... lights wont come up. first time it has rained/snowed moderately and lights have not come on .

due for service tom. well see what they say now.


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pretty much warnings listed disable there use.



read its also a problem with pathfinders 2013+

also asked around and dealers are clueless.
as to what to do. spoke to 1 service guy and he said the errors don't appear on the laptop.(have yet to verify this)



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Seems to be a quiet issue with
Infiniti Q50. So. Does look like a faulty sensor.

At the dealer now. Round 2 well see what they say.

Mod. Sorry to hijack the thread . If possible Remove my related post into new thread. Of I can delete

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StreetPrecise wrote:
At the dealer now. Round 2 well see what they say.
did the dealer fix the problem?

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Funny on another thread i saw someone comment on Problem that occurs only during snow/rain

thought it was only me. but mine seem more then just false positives (when rain triggers blind spot light)


But I noticed that since I purchased the car 1/30 . (That very weekend) whenever it snows or rains a moderate amount.
My BSW LDW AWD and CHASSIS malfunction lights turn on.
Been to the dealer 3 times (once with lights on) and they reset it but can't seem to find the problem.

Most of the time a quick off and back on and usually works again. But sometimes. Stays on for a day or 2 then when the weather dries up all is normal.

Really annoying. As the car is factory stock
all the dealer has done is change a horn harness from front. 1st time i was in (claimed tear on harness)
But issue happened again.


been to the dealer 3 times, 2 times ive left it there. 2 times i have a service log
dropped off my car on 4/16 just got it back 4/19

seems to be a problem with the new Q50 as well
rare but same exact symptoms.

some pathfinders 2013+ aswell

symptoms:
awd cuts off only fwd. works.
awd lock does not respond.
driving aids fail
chassis control says malfunction
i turn it off and sometimes clears. if not it takes hours to reset itself.

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left the car wed. got it back sat.
told me there were no codes present. but went ahead at did a water test on the car.
re-calibrated the awd system , the chassis control systems and the sensors for the driving aids.


so far its fine. but then again has not Rained yet.

moved this problem to

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so well see hope don't have to go in again .

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sounds like a abs sensor thats getting wet, and fails(shorts)

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I actually do audio/electrical accessories . So I actually stated the same thing to the tech. I told him that since it happens when it's wet and disables the awd. Has to be either a wheel sensor or a module box

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Dude, we already had two threads on the subject of BSW/LDW problems. No need to start yet another one. :nono:

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Rogue One wrote:Dude, we already had two threads on the subject of BSW/LDW problems. No need to start yet another one. :nono:
good point. merged.

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Rogue One wrote:Dude, we already had two threads on the subject of BSW/LDW problems. No need to start yet another one. :nono:


Could you post the link of the a similar problem ?

Didn't find anyone with an awd error. Or chassis malfunction.

And losing function of the system.

The bsw. Just happens to also trip.



Hence the reason i started a new thread.
But I guess this problem has already been covered. Right Rogue One

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StreetPrecise wrote:Could you post the link of the a similar problem ?

Didn't find anyone with an awd error. Or chassis malfunction.

And losing function of the system.

The bsw. Just happens to also trip.



Hence the reason i started a new thread.
But I guess this problem has already been covered. Right Rogue One
easy highspeed.
i already merged your thread with the other one.

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High speed? Lol. No not even. Was just curios as to the point of a new thread... hence y I stopped hijacking the first one. ...Just felt since I addressed a new problem no one seems to have encountered. It would have been nice to start a new thread to more educate and separate this from your usual "false positive" bsw thread


But no worries hotshot. Let's merge and be a nice peaceful community. 8)

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StreetPrecise wrote:But no worries hotshot. Let's merge and be a nice peaceful community. 8)
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Ok received!


But all issues aside from tone it down. Just got a call from the dealer. About setting up an appointment on a day after it rains to see if the problem arises again. Seems they actually care about finding out what the issue may be


will keep an update here

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we'll separate the threads once we can figure out the problems people are facing. as of right now- it seems everyone is just getting a bunch of lights and awd error messages.

PS: this is why i love this place. idk what it is, but this car seems to attract some good quality folks. in some of the other forums i moderate- there would have been tears, law suites, and poo flung around by now LMFAO. :grouphug:

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Hey all,
I bought a nissan rogue SL premium 2 weeks ago and I have had the exact same AWD error. Looking at Manual, it tells me to not drive it so I got it towed to a dealership. I also got a chassis malfunction errors and a blind spot and lande departure error, my tire pressure light is still on. Just wanted to know what's happening to this freaking brand new car. Did u get ur problems fixed for good Coleman? Also the tow guy towed it 10 feet on 2 wheels at 5kph, would that further mess anything up? Really nervous, My first car!

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I just purchased a 2015 Altima SV with the tech package. This package included the extra safety features that I thought would be beneficial. Within 2 weeks of my purchase, I had the car back in for service for multiple issues. They replaced a door sensor which resolved 1 issue, but there are 3 additional concerns below.

1. The first and biggest issue is with the blind spot warning system. Every time it rains or the roads are wet you will get false alarms flashing at you while driving or turning corners. This is highly distracting and makes the system useless when the roads are wet. When talking with my dealer, the service manager has the same car and same problem. On my second visit to the dealership, I was handed a bulletin which states my exact issue. I open a case with Nissan customer care to ask for a fix and their response was the system is working as designed. I guess they do not see an issue with a safety device giving false alarms.

2. The 7" screen is very fuzzy when using the backup camera. Nissan says it's working as designed, even thou the same model car with the smaller screen is noticeably clearer.

3. The Nissan Apps that connect you with Pandora only works maybe 25% of the time, it normally says that there is an error, all while I can still stream music and make phone calls using bluetooth.


Issue #1 is something that I can not live with. Any other product would have been returned immediately.

I have already contact Nissan and they said the BSW was working as designed. I am looking for others that have had the issue with the BSW and ideas of how to get Nissan to resolve this. The dealer had sent me to Nissan as they say it's out of their hands.

Please open a trouble with Nissan by calling 1-800-NISSAN1. The more people that call and report the issue, the better chance of having them do something (I make myself laugh).

I opened one and asked them to fix the issue or replace the car. Of course, they said no and to go away.

I also opened a safety issue with the NHTSA, please go to the Safercar.gov website.


Thanks.

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The BSW behaves like that when it rains/snows because it's a camera based system. Even though there's a blower on the camera lens, it tends to think precipitation is a car in your blind spot, triggering the warning.

I just get over this by not being dependent on my BSW system in bad weather and just rely on my situational awareness of the vehicles around me. I've heard radar based systems in other cars don't have this problem but I've never driven one so I don't know that piece.


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