240sx w/ a 350?

[SlamItSideWays]

I know its possible, but does any one have directions or a list of what all I have to do and what I need? Thanks

post pics if you have any!

[S3t0_S13]

what the front end?the motor?the steering wheel?

be more descriptive

[le_ryan]

Check it ...zeroforum/201

[SlamItSideWays]

Im talking about a chevy 350 small block. I have a 70 Chevelle but its going to take to much money to fix so I going to drop the engine and trany into my s13, so...I could use alittle info on it if anybody knows anything.

Thanks

[1unar3clipse]

have fun fitting that engine with its top mount carb.personally I see that almost as a waste of chevelle.

[elgarvo616]

step one: remove KA, preferably with chain saw.step two: put in stupid chevy 350.

this is not a very common swap. so i doubt there is alot of information out there on how to put it in. goodluck tho...

[dickie]

don't do it. there's absolutely no point. sell the sbc and buy a better motor for the 240 or sell the 240 and buy a better car for the sbc.

[SlamItSideWays]

I just thought it would be a cool idea. I have a 200sx S13 w/a CA18DET. I just wanted to play around w/ this. I also wanted to make a targa top.

[dickie]

you have a what now?

[redtop91]

Hahahaha I caught that too.

[the_momo]

targa? no thats a bad idea. very flexy chassis without any roof support

sbc? ive done it. its not too hard. look up my thread and or posts, ive put some details out there a few times.

and to all the nay sayers, why come to the hybrids forum and hate on peoples ideas? this is a place for we people who prefer to do what pisses everyone off and makes ourselves happy. its unnecessary. save it for general or zilvia please.

anyhow, mines carb and i love it. i had 1. 240 with a bad motor and 2. a sbc with no car. mix and enjoy. i have thus far.

email me if you can't find anything to help you @ [email protected] and dont worry about what closed minded people say and think. do what you makes you happy.

im disappointed in you personally d!ck, i dont expect comments like that from you, but everyone is entitled to their opinion i guess.

oh well. i got some work done on mine this week and im hoping to get it tuned a little this weekend. we'll see.

[dickie]

be disappointed all you want, i didnt come to this forum to hate, i moved his thread here so he could get more info.

if he wants to do it, thats fine, but my opinion, which you said yourself i was entitled to share, is that sbc's are great motors for something that wont be affected by the extra weight. like say, a 1970 chevelle. i would much rather see a properly built 350 sitting in there than in a 240sx.

granted the 240 is a great cheap performance platform that can be built to do almost anything, but why take something that comes with close to an ideal weight distribution from the factory, IRS and relatively lightweight and make it into something like a dedicated straight-liner? put an aluminum chevy motor into it like an ls-1,2,6,7 whatever into it so it retains its versatility too.

so yeah, i dont have a damn thing against hybrid swaps, just against pidgeonholing yourself for no other reason than you have the **** lying around and you could.

[SlamItSideWays]

for those who dont know, a 200sx s13 is the british version of the 180sx. It just comes with a CA18DET. I was in the air force and I lived there for 2 years and when it was time to leave I couldnt sell it...

[dickie]

we know what it is, its just rare to see one in the states. probably rarer than a jdm car. any issues with legality?

[SlamItSideWays]

Not really, I just had to fill out a **** load of papers. The Air Force preety much paid for the shipping I just had to pay for the Inspection and all the other crap.

[dickie]

pretty cool. leave it ca and sell it if you want to do a hybrid swap, smart money says you could get a **** ton and have extra cash to throw towards a 240 shell and other required parts.

[the_momo]

pretty cool. leave it ca and sell it if you want to do a hybrid swap, smart money says you could get a **** ton and have extra cash to throw towards a 240 shell and other required parts.

amen to that. you could finance a pretty good build by selling it how it is. oddities are very valuable among thos ein the know, and id say you have just sucha thing.

and d!ck, i didnt mean to sound brash, i guess i misunderstood your position. to each their own.

personally, mine isnt going to stay sbc for too much longer i think. i have a vovlo wagon in need of a few more cylinders and im really liking the thought of a 3.0 sho swap for my s13. the enticement of a cheap 9k reliable 200+whp na swap is very interesting. that and itll fit under my hood.

[dickie]

volvo wagons are the demon that haunts me whenever i have a few hundred extra dollars. what flavor of beast is this?

[WDRacing]

If you don't care about the handling being affected, then a SBC is a perfectly fine swap. I would never remove a CA though...lol.

The mounts and everything will have to be custom made. The SBC is actually not a bad idea considering the cost of parts etc.

There will always be nay sayers until it becomes more popular. The idea here is to swap in any motor you can that's not made by Nissan. The SBC is a great choice IMO.

Unless of course you hate cheap power...

[the_momo]

volvo wagons are the demon that haunts me whenever i have a few hundred extra dollars. what flavor of beast is this?

she be an 88 245. my brother named it the "silver cobra" because a. its silver ( and pretty clean i might add) and b. when i push the recirc air button it hisses.

therefore i can conclude that i have a button to turn on my cobra. beware the cobra.........

anyhow, turbobricks has spawned many bad ideas for me. b230ft with itb's, b230ft with monster turbo, rb20 245 with gt28rs (thats my fav thus far) and the tons of sbc 242, 244 and 245's. and then theres the volvette......im sure youve seen it. i like purple 500whp tt ls1 wagons.

[the_momo]

also, when im done, im gonna post some of the most disgusting pics of how i got my s13 and you and everyone else will agree it was destined to get a v-8. i never ever intended for it to be the way it is, but it simply refused to accept a ka-t, and now it runs just as well with the sbc.

dern crazy automobile....

[Higman Racing]

I am putting in a 410 sprint car engine.

[S3t0_S13]

im puttin an RB34DETTTT

[the_momo]

youre missing a t. there are supposed to be five. please make a note of it.

[bball212000]

the_momo you cant really say a sho is cheap, im a ford mechanic and one guy at work priced out a short block for one and it was around 12k dollars and the cylinder heads are 1200 a piece and they come completely bare. that was a few years ago so it might be alot different. i dont know if you could get parts from anywhere but ford. idk

[the_momo]

remind me to never ever go to where you work. ive never seen a sho 3.0 engine go for more than 2k, ever anywhere.

your dealership is either 1. thieves like all stealerships are, or 2. you were severly misinformed, possibly your source is as well.

they arent expensive engines. they arent inproduction anymore so you cant get a new one and the cars they came in werent expensive either...

i dont know how you could say its 12k. thats just not right or logical.

[bball212000]

just to be sure i was not misinformed when i go to work tomorrow i will get our parts guy to price one up for me and i will inform you of the results. by the way i like your s13.

[the_momo]

thanks!

and its official, my sbc is coming out this weekend and finding a new home in an 86 elcamino. then its time for something i would consider better...much better.

[Fla240sx]

im really liking the thought of a 3.0 sho swap for my s13. the enticement of a cheap 9k reliable 200+whp na swap is very interesting. that and itll fit under my hood.

SHO engines aren't CHEAP, but let me give you some pointers

first off find a 3.2L SHO engine out of an automatic SHO, much more torque

goto http://www.shobrosgarage.com and get the most radical cams available... if u want some power this is the way to go!!! stage 2 or +40 cams...

asjust the valve lash(unless ur putting in new cams which will have to be done anyway)replace this:

water pumpcrank sensorcam sensorfront sealrear sealoil pan sealrod bearings.... a ****en mustvalve cover gasketsspark plug seals(usually comes with valve covers)new wiresnew plugsunder drive pulley set... a must for anything over 7200rpm IMHO

gasket match yout intake to heads, get the bigger bore secondar butterflies, get a bigger MAF.......

this will give u a worry free setup for the next 60k-100k miles that can make about 260whp....

I was going to do this but I couldn't see how it will fit, the intake manifold is MASSIVE..... albeit one of the best features of the engine sans the crank/heads

a custom intake manifold will make things 10x easier, besides that get ready to cut metal on your s13....

let me know if u ever need help with a SHO engine, I know a lot of sites with write-ups on how to do maintenance to it....... if nothing else atleast change the rod bearings while its out of the car.... I had 2 of em

great engine love the power..... makes my 240sx seem like a 10 speed bicycle as far as power is concerned

P.S.

he's right, SHO engines are in excess of 10 grand from the dealer... not a junkyard tho..... sucks if u get one with a spun rod bearing tho, then u need another crank

while I'm at it make sure the crank key isn't beating itself an oblonged hole in the crank..... those are the two ways to F up a SHO engine.....

make sure crank pulley is torqued to spec and rod bearings are changed
Modified by Fla240sx at 12:13 PM 9/30/2007

[the_momo]

my thought is; why buy an engine from the dealership? thats just crazy. for the money, i can build a junkyard sho as far as id like to.

and i have a 3.0 from a manual 90. im more concerned about a revvy engine, and the 3.0 is just the ticket (its going to be a time attack type car/ autocrosser, etc.) and some drifting. anyhow the donor car is looking to be a 50k running example. ill replace all the requisites while its out and then probably a pair of smaller snails. its still very much in the planning stages (my sbc is ahem still in my 240 as of now, coming out this sun 10/7)

and i have no dounbts that itll fit under the hood. it will. and ive already cut my car up a lot. chevy transmissions are rather large.