240sx w/ a 350?

V8 240sx? Sure! If either the chassis OR the engine is non-Nissan (i.e. SR20 in an RX-7 or LS1 in a 240sx), we've done it.
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nice!these engines will take almost 500whp all stock

put in some +40 cams and buy a 60-1 turbo, most guys running that get 490whp @ 10psi, without cams... with cams maybe more, but defintely will move the power up and get some higher rpm power.....

keep in mind stock, the SHO doesn't make a lot of power up top, it just has the ability to rev high with its badass rotating assembly... the heads flow great as well... in stock form they outflow 98% of all the aftermarket heads for a 5.0

this biggest problem is how tall the engine is, the intake manifold is huge, as well as the oil pan, and nobody makes other oilpans for it.......

I've seen this engine in Mustangs, Rangers, and XR4Ti's........


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You guys need to post of some pics of this swap in other cras, and find us some resources for the SHO. I love the sound of this. I remember when a SHO smoked my Formula 350 back in the early 90's...boy did I feel like an idiot.

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http://members.cox.net/rdgrauman/Healey.html

this was my inspiration initially.

ill make a log and take lots of pics.

anyhow i can see lots of cutting and lots of fitting and swearing and such.

many many decisions. but itll be well documented.

And i firmly believe that this could turn out to be one of the best and most responsive engine swaps for the 240, because of how well equiped the engine is initially, how well it responds to modifications and the cost involved.

but we'll let the fabrication be the judge of that really:D

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however this engine weighs over 500lbs, it is very stout

I'll give u guys a list of kills I got in my Taurus, which weighs about 3500lbs, has a final drive of 3.72 and slightly taller tires, so its heavier, has worse traction, and geared for more topend then acceleration in the Taurus....

so in a lighter car with 4.01 gearing I think it will really get moving

NUMEROUS 5.0 mustangsThunderbird Supercoupenumerous 4.6L mustangs2001 GT vert(260hp rated)LT1 z28TPI z28Acura GSRAcura TLAcura CL2001 Maximanumerous 94+ Maxima'sLincoln Mk8Impala SS LT1Pontiac GTPBuick Regal SuperchargedFord Lightning 5.8L N/A 90's styleScion TcNissan Spec V

thats a fairly good list, keep in mind its not gonna take out any LS1 or 13 second 1/4 mile type vehicles, but it will suprise you, especially on the highway, running 70-130mph races are real fun

Cars I've lost to

LT-1 Z28 6 speed(surely modded)DOHC CobraS2k modded... he pulled me pretty damn good twice lolmodded srt-4 passed me around 110mph(good race)another SHO, but we were pretty close up to 130 when he started getting me... I think his car traps 98mph in the 1/4

http://www.SHOforum.com

http://www.fordbastards.org

http://www.shobrosgarage.com

http://www.ebay.com

some links for SHO stuff

guys who use the username TexanTony, Toolman, and SHOMurph has some of the fastest sho's around... well in excess of 500whp in a Taurus

Toolman's old intercooled turbo setup made 493whp @ 10psi on a 60-1 turbo...completely stock engine... now its even faster.... TexanTony's takes out fully built LS-1's, most noticeable story was a 427cu in one in a c5 and a new Lambo, owned by the vette owner lol

you can get a bigger MAF, bigger secondary butterflies, port the intake manifold, gasket match it, add cams, pulleys, exhaust... and your around 260whp.......

pretty decent for N/A IMHO

but the motors love BOOST

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mine will see boost. and i might have a pair of free evo viii turbos. theyre about equal to a 16g iirc. either way, free. (my friend works for mitsu in some "r and d" type of way.

megasquirt, map sensor (i loathe mafs, personal reference) and about 10 psi each. that should get it moving.

my only dilemma is.....which trans to use? itll be a custom mount either way, so my options are a little more open.....hmmmm.

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they make a few different pieces to search around for for RWD swaps.....

first off is a bellhousing adapter.......

the 80's Aerostar uses a 5 speed japanese? transmission... there are only certain years of this, they must be 3.0L engines as they share the same bellhousing pattern as a SHO v6 engine......... These type of aerostar transmissions have a detachable bellhousing, like a T-5, or T-56.... and I believe it is magnesium

then people make adapter plates so you can bolt this bellhousing to a T-5 transmission....... I don't know much about the clutches, but I suggest SHOforum.com ask around there, you will find some people with better knowledge of this then me.....

also they make spacers for the intake manifold that bolt to the head. In stock form the intake is oriented so the throttle body goes to the rear of the engine... you can flip the manifold around.. but the downside is the throttle body area hits the timming cover..... so aluminum spacers have been invented to cure this.......

shoforum has some nice people, and they are gung-ho about RWD swaps.. its damn near the dream of every owner there.... so they will be supportive

theres even some guys with SHO engines in sand rails.... one guy's is even supercharged with nitrous!


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very nice! thanks for all the info.

im going to use the bh from an aerostar. it needs the "vulcan" 3.0 with the mazda m5-odr1 trans. some rangers use it as well, also mazda b series pickups.

im investigating using an entire trans from one of the aforementioned vehicles, as the m5 is a pretty well regarded trans in the offroading community for being robust to a certain point (its no getrag) and they are plentiful, as well as having aftermarket support. so that is my big dilemma really. if it doesnt work out, im going to use the housing and mate it to a t-5 from a 94-96 mustang gt (it has the appropriate length input shaft, like 1/2 inch longer than other model years. it was a specific designation, but i dont recall what it was at the moment)

hopefully this will get off the ground soon, its going to be a restless winter for sure. my goal is to have it functioning by april. itll be well documented as i go along too. i wanna share with you all!

thanks again for the great info fla, i really appreciate it.

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I don't think its a mazda transmission........

I THINK the transmission your talking about is whats used in later rangers etc...

it would work just that ranny with a 3.0 bellhousing and no adapaters, but its more of a truck transmission, and I wouldn't run forced induction through it.........

the belhousing is part of the case half on that style transmission

this is the M5R1

here is a picture of a T-5 with adapater plate and Aerostar bellhousing

that is a 86-87 3.0L Aerostar manual transmission bellhousing

thats the only car its found on, and it does need modification, I.E. grinding inside

also its a 94-95 T-5

on the flipside using the Ranger transmission you talk of, the SHO pressure plate won't fit in the bellhousing... so you have to use the Ranger pressure plate... which means custom flywheel.......

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yeah ill have definitive info once i get the engine and start poking around swap yards.

in the meantime...a friend of mine who works for mitsubishi has a colleague who worked for ford in the late 80's on special vehicle projects, namely the mid engined car the sho was originally intended for.....during their flow benching of the exhausts the yamaha engineers made an appearance and had the ford people remove all of the peripheral equipment(alt, ps waterpump etc.) and ran the engine on the dyno. apparently, the only limiting factor of revs was those parts, and the engine lives happily at 10k without them.

now this is just what i have been told, so i have no proof to back it up personally, but throughout my build, ill continue to push that envelope to hopefully prove it right.

also, can a mod make a separate thread for the info in here, its gotten well off topic and it would be nice to have this swap info consolidated in an easy to find thread. ill continue to update it as i have updates, and i encourage others to contribute as well. thanks!

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the crank is stable up til about 10.5k rpm

9krpm really starts pushing the accessories

8krpm is good but useless with stock cams/exhaust


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you can but i know someone whi=o did it and it took a lot of work!!!

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yeh


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