240sx ka24e turbo and nos

[p1k4mp3]

hi there ppl! i'm new here!i live in europe, switzerland exactly, and i'm 19!i have recently bought a nissan 240sx, 58k miles, ka24e sohc motor.i've payed 1600$.now, i want to boost up my motor, and i want to know where i can find a bolt-on turbo kit and nos kit with all components to work! if there is in europe, better!thank you guys, and sorry for my english!

[Craving4Boost]

hi there ppl! i'm new here!i live in europe, switzerland exactly, and i'm 19!i have recently bought a nissan 240sx, 58k miles, ka24e sohc motor.i've payed 1600$.now, i want to boost up my motor, and i want to know where i can find a bolt-on turbo kit and nos kit with all components to work! if there is in europe, better!thank you guys, and sorry for my english!

haha settle down there buddy you sound like you just won the lottery or something. But yeah 1600$ for a 58k mile 240sx? that's crazy...did you mean 158k instead? If not, then you got a super deal.

But yeah I would suggest either going turbo OR nitrous first. (Also it's called Nitrous, not NOS, NOS is a company that sells Nitrous.) Because if you want to have both you're going to have to have a built motor most likley unless its a VERY small shot. First you need to do a compression test and check the condition of the motor. Do a lot of reading around this forums and others and always keep an open mind with questions. Read the sticky threads on here and ka-t.org

good luck, welcome, and post pics if you can

[WDRacing]

Welcome to Nico, you've found the right place for all of your 240SX questions. There are quite a few kits available for the S13. The S13 is the model 240SX you have, they ran from the years 1989 to 1994. In 95 they switched to the S14 body style. You have a 1989 or 1990, those are the only years that came with a SOHC motor. It's not the best, but it will do nicely.

In order to best answer your questions, I have a few of my own. Are you going to be installing the kit yourself? Do you have a mechanical background? How much horse power are you looking for? Are you willing to install new internals like rods and pistons into your motor?

Ask any questions you have, but try to answer the ones I've asked you. The more info you give us, the better we can help you achieve your goals. Don't worry about the English, you speak it better then some of the Americans we have here...

WD

[aaronsnocker1]

I was under the impression that europe only received the 200sx or 180sx. Those wouldn't have a ka in them would they???I thought they were all sr.

[Maverick7687]

You have a 1989, its the only model that came with a SOHC motor.

1989 AND 1990 came with the SOHC no?

Welcome to NICO.. Enjoy your stay.. and because I'm sure Chopp doesn't check this forum often:

[WDRacing]

Fixed it...thanks for keeping me on my toes

[Craving4Boost]

damn WD you're super active in the forums now haha...you must've missed it bad

[WDRacing]

Yes I did my friend, yes I did. I'm back to stay

[Maverick7687]

Oh, WD.. Check your other post about "Who has a project going" or something along those lines. I am looking for KA-T parts to start out with.

[p1k4mp3]

yes, it is 58k miles!and for the turbo and nitrous installation, i dont want to stay with motor stock internals. my 240sx is the american one! where can i find turbo kits cheap? thanks

[WDRacing]

I replied

[Edub1]

If you are looking for a direct bolt in kit, keeping the KA might not be your best option as other motors such as the SR have mutch more aftermarket support and a lot more "plug and play" bolt on type stuff.

I have a turbo KA. It was not too expensive to build but I had to do a lot of research, a lot of searching for parts and a bit of fabricating. Plus, finding a good tune can be an issue.

Now I'm the type of guy who enjoys that sort of thing. People ask where I got my kit and I enjoy telling them that I pieced it all together myself. Having to re-locate my battery into the trunk and cut through the battery tray doesn't make me happy but oh well.

Also, being that you are in Europe, you might have cheep and easy access to an SR and replacement parts. Check into the SR20DET - It's something to think about.

[WDRacing]

If I were in Europe, I'd definitly swap in a RB20DET. Not really even a question in my mind. Sourcing oarts for a KA24E model is going to be an issue.

Another thing, cheap isn't really an option. If you're looking for cheap HP, I'd suggest just installing Nitrous. Make motor as good asit can be in naturally aspirated form, header, real cold air intake, some cams. The install a 150shot of nitrous with a good progressive controller like Jacobs or Nitrous Express. Dollar for dollar, Nitrous is the best bang for the buck.

I've driven some fun high compression KA's.

WD

[BMAR240SX]

Turbo Turbo Turbo...nos is more expensive in the long run...Turbo Turbo Turbo

[Craving4Boost]

If I were in Europe, I'd definitly swap in a RB20DET. Not really even a question in my mind. Sourcing oarts for a KA24E model is going to be an issue.

Another thing, cheap isn't really an option. If you're looking for cheap HP, I'd suggest just installing Nitrous. Make motor as good asit can be in naturally aspirated form, header, real cold air intake, some cams. The install a 150shot of nitrous with a good progressive controller like Jacobs or Nitrous Express. Dollar for dollar, Nitrous is the best bang for the buck.

I've driven some fun high compression KA's.

WD

Would spraying a fogger wet kit + alcohol have any conflict with each other? since they are both spraying pretty much into the TB at the same spot, I wonder if that would cause any issue.

[WDRacing]

Turbo Turbo Turbo...nos is more expensive in the long run...Turbo Turbo Turbo

For a teenager who's in Europe, the swap or Nos on the existing engine is probably the best bet. Yes I know in the long run the turbo is cheaper. But the KA24E is one of the worst engines for aftermarket, not to mention being FAR worse then the DE for boosting. I'm sure there are exceptions, but they are few.

Easy and cheap HP=Nitrous.

If we're talking about a mechanic with DIY abilities, I may say turbo.

WD

[WDRacing]

Would spraying a fogger wet kit + alcohol have any conflict with each other? since they are both spraying pretty much into the TB at the same spot, I wonder if that would cause any issue.

Nope, no issues at all. Although a direct port nitrous setup is the best, a fogger single nozzle will also work well. You could always have the alcohol injected through the Wet side of the nitrous kit. You'll be able to run more timing that way, or the same amount of timing retard and more spray...either will net more power.

WD

[BMAR240SX]

For a teenager who's in Europe, the swap or Nos on the existing engine is probably the best bet. Yes I know in the long run the turbo is cheaper. But the KA24E is one of the worst engines for aftermarket, not to mention being FAR worse then the DE for boosting. I'm sure there are exceptions, but they are few.WD

What are your reasons on the E being the worset i have a turbo on mine and it runs pretty cool...not to be a smart *** i just want some facts from somone thats been here a long time

[WDRacing]

By worst I mean in the Nissan line up. The motor isn't bad, it just lacks alot of things the rest of basically all the Nissan motors have. 2 Cams is inherantly better flow wise and tuning wise. Cam on bucket design is TONS better then rockers. The block lacks piston oil squirters which are essential in cooling/lubrication.

The aftermarket is nill. I don't mean to beat up anyone who has a KA24E, but I've built and driven all of the best motors Nissan has put out, all of the RB's, the SR, CA and VG30, although I hate the VG30 because it sucks to work on. Fact is, the KA24E simply is one of the worst motors to turbo when everything is considered and the options are weighed.

WD

[Craving4Boost]

By worst I mean in the Nissan line up. The motor isn't bad, it just lacks alot of things the rest of basically all the Nissan motors have. 2 Cams is inherantly better flow wise and tuning wise. Cam on bucket design is TONS better then rockers. The block lacks piston oil squirters which are essential in cooling/lubrication.

The aftermarket is nill. I don't mean to beat up anyone who has a KA24E, but I've built and driven all of the best motors Nissan has put out, all of the RB's, the SR, CA and VG30, although I hate the VG30 because it sucks to work on. Fact is, the KA24E simply is one of the worst motors to turbo when everything is considered and the options are weighed.

WD

That's how you know how addicting boost is when you see all the SOHC guys boosting the sh*t out of their motors

[wild_maxx]

By worst I mean in the Nissan line up. The motor isn't bad, it just lacks alot of things the rest of basically all the Nissan motors have. 2 Cams is inherantly better flow wise and tuning wise. Cam on bucket design is TONS better then rockers. The block lacks piston oil squirters which are essential in cooling/lubrication.

The aftermarket is nill. I don't mean to beat up anyone who has a KA24E, but I've built and driven all of the best motors Nissan has put out, all of the RB's, the SR, CA and VG30, although I hate the VG30 because it sucks to work on. Fact is, the KA24E simply is one of the worst motors to turbo when everything is considered and the options are weighed.

WD

alot of parts are interchangable between the DOHC and SOHC. (rods, pistons, crank ect...) Oil squirters can easily be added to the SOHC block as well or just use the DE block with the E head. Solid rocker arms are available to handle the high rpm's. You are correct on the cam situation... but a good performance cam really wakes up the SOHC. SOHC ECU's are alot easier to tune and don't require a daughterboard to chip them. The aftermarket isn't as bad as you think for the SOHC... just not cheap.I'm rockin the ka24e-t and it was done the correct way.

[WDRacing]

I said it's not a bad motor, but everything I said was fact. Would I turbo one...probably not if I had the choice to do somthing else. But if I were going to stick with a stock KA24 and not swap internals and whatnot, then I suppose I would. If I'm going to spend money on pistons, rods and valvetrain, it'll be in a DE motor...any of them.

WD

[p1k4mp3]

hi there guys!the swap option, i dont know if it is legal, the turbo one neither, but a 2.4L turbo(near 300hp would really be fine).else, in america, it exists the 1990 240sx with one of those motors: ca18det, ka24de, sr20det?thanks

[Edub1]

The SOHC turbo upgrade has been fun but if I had it to do over again and wasn't worried about my still ice cold R12 A/C system, I would probably do an SR swap.

Question is, what is your time worth? It takes longer to figure out everything you will need and find a good manifold, injectors, yada, yada, than it takes to restore the whole car. Do an SR or RB swap and everything is plug & play. If you don't mind hours of research the SOHC is ok but in a country where you can't get parts in the first place - to hell with the KA.

[WDRacing]

My thoughts exactly, but I've never been to Switzerland. Other then hot women...I dunno what they have. I'd sell the 240 and buy a Skyline

I can't believe we're talking bad about a KA in the KA forums...lol. GO LS1!!!!

[Edub1]

Hay Maxx, you heard from Devious lately? Looks like that tune you are running is a base (limp to the dyno) tune with tons of timing pulled out. I'm guessing you are not getting anywhere near your expected power level and your egt has to be super hot.

Anyway, you said it's super rich. If you want, I can lean it out and bump your timing up a notch or two. Have a look at the tune I posted. It's stock MAF but that's no biggie. Hell, why don't you just buy a burner - I'll help you tweek it.

What are the A/F ratios like accross the board?

[p1k4mp3]

hi there guys again!just tell me!in this ebay kit: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors...wItemthere is all i need to upgrade to turbo, just bolt-on?or i have to just things like fuel pump, injectors...?thanks

[p1k4mp3]

and for the nitro kit just to bolt on, what can i get in ebay?if some one have turbo kits and nitro kits for ka24e motor, we can have a business!hehethanks

[WDRacing]

Sorry man, that ebay kit is for a KA24DE motor, not the SOHC you have...

[Craving4Boost]

can we please have a sticky for SSAC turbo kits that includes people with REAL good/bad experiences. I know we are all tired of this SSAC virus that seems to be going around. I swear it's like Turbo AIDS, once you put it in, you got it. And then once you put it in, it starts infecting other people and sh*t.

I picture a evil scientist in his damn lab whipping up these SSAC turbo kits. He's probably an All Motor Power fanatic and got smoked by some boosted car and now has a life goal to blow up everything single forced induction engine.

sorry I needed to vent