240sx & celica.

[240sxin]

Hey guys, this might be old news but i was bord to day and i was looking a celicas and low and behold while readin the specs, the 89 240sx has the same horse power as the 03 celica gt. Now i thought that was funny cause my step mom (hanis ***** from hell) just got a 03 gt and she thinks it the baddess mother on the earth. she thinks my freinds eagle tsi awd tubor could beat her when he could blow her out the water. anyway my point is that now i can rub it in her face that my car has the same horse power as hers and is 14 years older then hers, o and on top of that my car has more torque to. well i just had to let everyone know that even tho most probly allready did. anyway take it easy guys and go beat a celica lol.~Jon

[Onizuka]

they should offer a AWD version of the celica...

[sachmo12345]

they used to it was called the Celica All Trac..... they are very hard to come by

[240sxin]

ya ive seen em they earily 90's vey cool and iver heard pretty fast but hella hard to find.

[240sxin]

they were also called gt-4s

[BuudWeizErr]

i can rub it in her face that my car has the same horse power as hers and is 14 years older then hers,

I have a car in my garage that was made 37 years ago that has 400HP, mildly modified, whats your point?

Your car also has more displacement, yet minus one cam.

If you need to do any rubbing, rub it in that she has wrong wheel drive.

[Onizuka]

they used to it was called the Celica All Trac..... they are very hard to come by

yeah i know, im talkin current model

[The Mic]

my friend has the 93 celica all-trac modded, he got killed by an Sr w/just intake and boost

[Slider]

While alltracs are rare, getting their motor isn't that rare from Japan. Quite a few people have swapped the 3s-gte engine from japan, into their FWD celicas. Not the new Celicas, the 98 and older ones. The engine is 2.0 turbo, and comes with 225hp in japan. The same engine is also offered in the turbo mr2 here in the us. And the alltrac came with the 3sgte, so it isn't such a ***** to get parts, also it's possible to use the original transmission with the swap. Shame it's FWD though, but it's probably cheaper than a sr20det.

edit: The new Celicas don't really have much aftermarket performance wise. Altough the GT-S manual is pretty quick.

[UncleBen]

If you are going to get a new celica, why waste time and money on a GT? They are pathetic terds....

The GT-s' are quick, definately. They have more potential in an easier fasion I'm sure, just because you start with more power. But, the GT might be better for boost, because the compression isn't as high I'm sure.....I dunno, I dont care about Celica's. I am just BSin in a way that I think I am correct.

[dima]

New celica has very stiff boby but engine is not as powerfull as can be. Boys in toyota better drop some good HP in it to make it better overall car.

[SilviaLuvr]

I got beat buy the new celica's. My boy had one when they first touchdown. We raced for fun and he beat me...just all around beat me. I had INtake and exhaust adn his car was bone stock. He got me off the line and down teh straight. Not to mench that his car was brand new adn my car is 13yrs old:pface. I heard that they (the new celica's) had some form of VTEC inside of them? Is that true..?

[Mr1der]

the GT is the base model now:( don't think I'd call it a pathetic turd though, it is after all a toyota, so I think I'd go with just pathetic:D

I think the celica just has another version of vvt on it, not sure exactly how their version works though...

I don't think they're ever gonna make another celica as cool as the '76 Liftback though, I want one sooo bad. I hope they make a Celica as cool as that one though, I like cool cars...

[dima]

I think they do have Some VVT but it does not activated until engine hits high RPM. I'm not sure what RPM but it is probably around 5000+ or so.

[ilikenissan]

Yeah toyotas version is called VVTi I think. Im not sure if the new celicas have them or not. I thought that was a Supra thing? It still just an inferior design of VTEC. Like mitsubishis MIVEC, I heard it sucks really bad. Don't skyline R-34's have variable valve timing? If so what is Nissan's called? And I beat a new GT from like a 5 mph roll.. Barely but still beat him.

[Chingon]

well, altough the celica may not be the quickest of the newer cars, it does handle pretty well, and although the 1zzge which powers it, may be lacking a little hp, it's a hell of an engine. The mr2 spyder, which shares this engine, is pretty fast with it, with a 15 sec 1/4 mile time. TRD has released a sc kit for the engine, putting it in around 185 hp w/o ic. However, my engine of choice among the new engines is the 2zgge found in the gt-s.

[240sxin]

by no means was i disin the celica i ove em i just hate my step mom with such a passion that i thought it was funny that she thinks that her car is the biggest baddest out there when in fact its not. anyway thats all.

[prigo]

Mmmmm, Alltracs... *drool*

[IvoryJ30t]

the mr2 syder is quick with that motor because it weighs someting like 2350 lbs without driver.

supposedly with a turbo kit pushing like 10 psi, its in the 12's.

[IvoryJ30t]

i was off, its curb weight with manual transmission is 2,195 lbs.

sequential manual adds 20 lbs. [6 speed w/ steering wheel buttons. no clutch]

i wanted one, but its just not useful. im not spending that kind of money on that size car. maybe in a few years when i can get one dirt cheap, and strap a turbo on it.

[LittleBrotherSilvia]

they should offer a AWD version of the celica...

they should offer a fast version of the celica

[SeVa-S13]

i was off, its curb weight with manual transmission is 2,195 lbs.

Jebus...is that possible? That's just insane. Now if only they offered a hardtop version of it for some damn chassis rigidity, that would decimate.

Edit: Just did some quick research and found that the MK2s weight about 100 pounds less....and they're clearly sexier, and available stock turbo. Hmm...too bad they seem to have a propensity for drastic, unrecoverable oversteer....

[SmithSR]

Forget about the new Celica, very few new cars come close, value-wise, to their asking price. Check out the celica GT circa 1985.

[aleph1]

Celica All tracs are lame. They handle like pigs and weight like them too. All-Tracs are the late 80s and early 90s models, GT4 was the mid nineties models.

[IvoryJ30t]

Jebus...is that possible? That's just insane. Now if only they offered a hardtop version of it for some damn chassis rigidity, that would decimate.

Edit: Just did some quick research and found that the MK2s weight about 100 pounds less....and they're clearly sexier, and available stock turbo. Hmm...too bad they seem to have a propensity for drastic, unrecoverable oversteer....

im pretty sure the mk2's weigh around 2700 lbs.

i loved my old mr2, but i lost it driving like a 16 year old...

not the best car for a new driver. after im done with the j30, ive been really thinking about a 2000 mr2 in blue/black interior and a turbo. maybe in like 2 or 3 years when they get cheaper...

[aleph1]

MK1s are where its at. My friend has an NA one, its still quick and fun to drive. MK2s weight between 2600-2800lbs, they look nice, but are too...soft...like their steering, you cant FEEL the road, I drove one for a bit and it felt too disconnected/dampend.

[SeVa-S13]

kthxomg

[Slider]

Celica All tracs are lame. They handle like pigs and weight like them too. All-Tracs are the late 80s and early 90s models, GT4 was the mid nineties models.

In the US they were called All Tracs, everywhere else they were GT4s.

[aleph1]

In the US they were called All Tracs, everywhere else they were GT4s.

Ah. I just comfirmed this myself.

[Shahee1]

I have a 1980 MK1 Supra Celica that I am getting rid of cause I want the 76 celica GT. There is no support for the MK1 .... the celica is a great car in its own right ... as well as the 240sx.