240 Vs. CRX

Post by **Spidey** » Thu Dec 26, 2002 9:16 pm

Hey, I recently got a s13 red top sr20det swap on my 1990 240sx. I have a five Zigen muffle 3" exhasut piping. I'm running stock boost, a FMIC, Holley fuel pump, ACT Clutch, blitz blow off valveand cold air intake. My friend was waiting for me to get the swap done and now he has challenged me to a race against his B16 powered Crx he has a stock B16A1 and I was wondering what your opinion on the outcome was gonna be? I'm waiting until maybe 500 miles to break in the motor.

Post by **S13240** » Thu Dec 26, 2002 9:16 pm

You would spank the crap out of him, it's a no contest race! I'm sure everybody else agrees with me.

Post by **bp2ooo** » Thu Dec 26, 2002 9:16 pm

You will demolish him. You should be low 14's if not high 13's he will be mid to high 14's as long as hes stock.

Post by **SR180SX** » Thu Dec 26, 2002 9:16 pm

stock boost will not get in to low 14's... but you should win the race if it's full 1/4 mile

Post by **themadscientist** » Thu Dec 26, 2002 9:16 pm

Hold on a minute. I agree you got him in the pocket but is this guy dumb? Is he wanting to race for money, he could be a sleeper with a 50-shot for you. That would even things up. If he's a buddy just beat his *** and mercilessly rag on him for the rest of his life.

Post by **1bad180sx** » Thu Dec 26, 2002 9:16 pm

Werd. Damadscientist knows about fast CRX's.

Post by **themadscientist** » Thu Dec 26, 2002 9:16 pm

the Rex lives on in legend!

Post by **James** » Thu Dec 26, 2002 9:16 pm

Should be a good fight, let us know how it comes out.-James

Post by **Spidey** » Thu Dec 26, 2002 9:16 pm

themadscientist wrote:Hold on a minute. I agree you got him in the pocket but is this guy dumb? Is he wanting to race for money, he could be a sleeper with a 50-shot for you. That would even things up. If he's a buddy just beat his *** and mercilessly rag on him for the rest of his life.

Nah this guy is one of my best friends he just wants bragging rights. Besides I should probably just show them this post and save my gas

Post by **Spidey** » Thu Dec 26, 2002 9:16 pm

what about if with the same set up I run a 95 Dohc Neon p&p manifold, centerforce clutch, acr transmission W lsd mopar performance ecu, cai, exhaust no cat, pacesseter headers?

Post by **bp2ooo** » Thu Dec 26, 2002 9:16 pm

both the 240 and the crx would have bragging rights forever whether you win or loose because you drove a neon.

Post by **RPS13Sideways** » Thu Dec 26, 2002 9:16 pm

Hey hey hey..don't diss the CRX, could be a close race....depends what B16A motor he has? JDM 1st Gen, or SIR 2? Or USDM B16A3 from a 99-00 SI Coupe? And remember if his CRX is a SI then maybe but if it's a HF, then you might have a run for your money........those things weigh less than 1800...and remember fellas, it's all about POWER TO WEIGHT RATIO.....

Post by **RPS13Sideways** » Thu Dec 26, 2002 9:16 pm

Wait a minute did you just say you have a "COLD AIR INTAKE" on your SR20DET powerplant....hrmmmmmm

Post by **themadscientist** » Thu Dec 26, 2002 9:16 pm

no actually it's not "all about power to weight ratio". That is only one factor in a complex equasion. You have to take into effect a whole slew of variables; driver skill, what does the power curve for each motor exibit, how does weight transfer in each car on the launch, open diff or LSD, transmission and final drive gear ratios, distance to traverse, air pressure(turbos can compensate for thin air). There are so many things that contribute to how a car performs in various tests of speed that a statement like that is rather silly.

Post by **Spidey** » Thu Dec 26, 2002 9:16 pm

RPS13Sideways wrote:Hey hey hey..don't diss the CRX, could be a close race....depends what B16A motor he has? JDM 1st Gen, or SIR 2? Or USDM B16A3 from a 99-00 SI Coupe? And remember if his CRX is a SI then maybe but if it's a HF, then you might have a run for your money........those things weigh less than 1800...and remember fellas, it's all about POWER TO WEIGHT RATIO.....

The Engine is a B16A1 first gen from japan and it is in a CRX DX. What do you guys think the outcome against the neon will be he is all-motor. and LSD

Post by **1bad180sx** » Thu Dec 26, 2002 9:16 pm

Quote »those things weigh less than 1800[/quote]I will have to raise the BS flag here. Less than 1800 pounds? A CRX? Stock? Are we talking stage 3 weight reduction here?

Post by **Boardman** » Thu Dec 26, 2002 9:16 pm

Post by **1bad180sx** » Thu Dec 26, 2002 9:16 pm

Quote »The Engine is a B16A1 first gen from japan and it is in a CRX DX. [/quote]Quote »those things weigh less than 1800.[/quote]Quote »Less than 1800 pounds? A CRX? Stock?[/quote]Quote »It's not BS you just don't know about Crx's.1988 HF is 1819lbs.1988 DX is around 1942lbs.1988 Si is 2017lbs.[/quote]I just wanted to say thank you for proving me right. It doesn't weigh anywhere close to 1800 pounds, and it sure as hell isn't less than 1800. So next time you tell me I don't know about CRX's, read what you're writing. I do know about CRX's. I was just too lazy to look up the numbers.

Quote »I know this is a Nissan forum- but remember- not all Honda's are riced out- and the SR is not unbeatable.It would be a VERY close race- a drivers race.[/quote]Nobody here really bashed your beloved CRX. I'm going tell you what happened to every single CRX I ever raced with my SR20DET.

I live in Japan, so all the cars here are JDM. I have beaten the crap out of countless B16 and B18 Hondas. This was when I had a stock T25 and mild bolt ons. I stopped racing them after I put on my T4, but sometimes they still try.

I've been beaten by one honda. One. It's my friend's Integra with a T3/T04E on it. He beat the crap out of me when I had my stock turbo. Now that I have a big turbo too, he can't keep up anymore.

My take on this race at hand is this: As long as you can drive, you will beat the crap out of the Honda. Just cause its JDM doesn't mean its special or something. Honda owners need to pull their heads outta the VTEC cloud its in.

Post by **S13240** » Thu Dec 26, 2002 9:16 pm

I still gotta say that a stock b16a1 crx will lose to an sr20 powered 240sx with basic bolt ons. I've seen lots of crxs with b16a1s in action even hatchbacks with their ls/vtec motors that can't even beat GSTs or GSXs with exhaust and downpipe done only. Lots of guys in my city has their civic hb,coupes/crxs swapped out for the b16a1, LS, and GSR motors and still can't even hang with my friend's S13 fastback with red top sr20det with hks ssq bov, custom fmic the size of the stock sidemount ic, stock vlsd, 3" dp, 3" exhaust, z32 fuel pump, and a heavy a$$ sound system!

His last kill was a few weeks back; he raced a civic hb(wasn't sure what trim it was) with a b16a1 with basic bolt ons. And boy was it a bad kill...they both launch at the same time with the 240sx leading by half a car, got into second gear and the 240sx starting pulling away about one car and a halfs length maybe more as I was at the starting line up and into third gear the 240sx was gone and was it an embarrasment to the guys that were claiming that civic hb were doing low 14s.

My close friend that just had a b16a1 swapped into his crx hf a couple months ago got into my car the other day and all I have is filter and exhaust :pface and boy was he surprised by the power my car have...I asked him if he was willing to run sometimes just for fun and he refused. I bet he saw my speedo jumping to 110 mph quickly :ylsuper

Post by **GodzillaFan** » Thu Dec 26, 2002 9:16 pm

SR180SX wrote:stock boost will not get in to low 14's... but you should win the race if it's full 1/4 mile

erm, s13 w/ bolt ons is good for high 13's,stock boost. with upped boost, low 13s, or faster with more traction.

Post by **1bad180sx** » Thu Dec 26, 2002 9:16 pm

High 13's with perfect driving. We'll assume this will be less than perfect.

Post by **Boardman** » Thu Dec 26, 2002 9:16 pm

Post by **1bad180sx** » Thu Dec 26, 2002 9:16 pm

Quote »it is in a CRX DX[/quote]The CRX DX weighs 1942 pounds according to you.

Post by **1bad180sx** » Thu Dec 26, 2002 9:16 pm

Quote »You sir are a dumbass.I think you should shut up now.[/quote]Wether or not I am a dumbass doesn't change the fact that I've beaten every honda I've raced except one.

Post by **Boardman** » Thu Dec 26, 2002 9:16 pm

Post by **1bad180sx** » Thu Dec 26, 2002 9:16 pm

OK, I'm editing my post here as to not make an extra one for no reason.

The stage three weight reduction was a joke. If you couldn't read the sarcasm in that, then sorry.

Whatever you just said, the DX he's talking about doesn't weigh 1800 pounds. Sorry I don't know the curb weight of every slow *** car off the top of my head... but I'll definitely remember these now.

Post by **Boardman** » Thu Dec 26, 2002 9:16 pm

Post by **1bad180sx** » Thu Dec 26, 2002 9:16 pm

I'm not going to argue with a honda boy anymore. I will stop talking as you asked.

Post by **chrispy** » Thu Dec 26, 2002 9:16 pm

honda= No Torque

Post by **Spidey** » Thu Dec 26, 2002 9:16 pm

OK OK I got the point with the CRX I know it will be a close race but what about the Neon We are all going out on the same day and have a little race war. What are my chances against the neon???

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