22's on a Y33??

[lino]

i think theyd look decent in an 18

Do the 18s come in that beautiful finish? Will they clear a big brake upgrade for my G50?

[2005Q45inCali]

Is that your car DuDro with the 20's? Niiiiiiice

[DuDro]

No...

I was looking for a F50 with the Swift Lowering springs and found this one. The owner of the car bought his springs from JasonB, along with the PIAA fog lights.

I like the drop, but not that excited about the wheels. I'm not a huge fan of chrome....

[hannibal]

Greg, you can take my card, you can take my grape drink. But dont touch my damn chicken

[AZhitman]

[MinisterofDOOM]

For some reason, the Y33 with 22s in the original post makes me think of this:



I don't think I have to tell you that that is not a good thing.

[TgduMg]

better yet... I think 28's are interesting to me now

Lets say we're caught in rush hour traffic and I'm in a Lotus Elise directly in front of that sky blue Caprice 4 door, and the driver is having memory lapses for reasons that we won't get into. Hopefully the street legality of "Super Donkers" will be outlawed nationwide!

A better example of 20-inchers on a F50...



I likey....

^ HOTNESS.

OMG.... I likey too! Now that's a nice F50!

Greg, you can take my card, you can take my grape drink. But dont touch my damn chicken

Danisiti 1

[decaresq45]

I like the look.. I have a set of 20's on a 94q and a set of 19 inch alloy i ride as well. Its a good look depending on the year q

[TgduMg]

I think the style of wheel is a nice compliment to the car...

Looks pretty cool.

The 20" FX wheels look KILLER on a Y33.

I've envisioned some 8.5 to 9 inch wide 19's wrapped with 255/35 tires on a slightly lowered (F)Y33 in a design similar to these Carlsson Ultra Lights with center covers from the 90-91 Q45 touring wheels to cap em off! I feel that would be a very good look for any 97-01 Q.



The FX wheels need a little more negative offset to push then out a bit.

Danisiti 1

[Falkdesigns]

The FX wheels need a little more negative offset to push then out a bit.

Danisiti 1

Totally agreed. I like the dark night shot best because you really can't tell, but the day shot shows that they need to be pushed out. Those Carlssons are so freakin hot, I <3 those wheels.

[AZhitman]

Ditto on the Carlssons.

Tasty.

[maxnix]

They'd have to be at least 9" - 9.5" wide to fit that tire.

Looks a little hokey to me, but you get'em and we'll run against my wife's 18x9 with 255/40 PS2 (99 load rating) and see who can do the best on the skid pad inlateral G and braking.

[Falkdesigns]

They'd have to be at least 9" - 9.5" wide to fit that tire.

According to Wes, you could probably fit a 305 on an 8" wide wheel so 255 on 8.5-9" should be no problem

[elwesso]

hey, retard!!!!!! a 255-35-19 is approved for a 8.5 to 10in wheel according to tirerack... So yes, id say, you could certainly put a 255 on a 8.5in wheel!

Please try not to be a douchebag all the time!

[maxnix]

hey, retard!!!!!! a 255-35-19 is approved for a 8.5 to 10in wheel according to tirerack... So yes, id say, you could certainly put a 255 on a 8.5in wheel!

Note that they do measure them on 9" wide wheels. While the narrowest widths will work, on the extremely low profile tires, you will get some roll up on the edges. Of course if your are running -2° camber, who cares? You got much larger problems.

By the way, while you may be a pwussy, I assure you Kevin is no douchebag. So quit fantasizing.

He does indeed have a design gene or three which I totally lack. And he is a great guy.

[elwesso]

Personally i like the tire to be a little too wide than too narrow... Narrow tires could roll the sidewall easier... So far, i dont of any downsides to running a tire too wide as long as its still approved..... other than you may not like how it looks.

[Falkdesigns]

He does indeed have a design gene or three which I totally lack. And he is a great guy.

Thanks Brian. I know we don't agree on everything, some things dramatically.

Narrow tires could roll the sidewall easier

Excuse me?? Not a chance in hades my friend. Stock tires on Porsches, Ferraris, Lambos, etc are never wider than the wheel, in fact, no high performance car I've ever heard of runs tires wider than the wheel, other than the powered tires on a dragster, but they don't turn, they just go straight. When the tires are wider than the wheel the sidewalls bulge, and the whole tire moves more under cornering, while a tire that's narrower than the wheel is already kinda tight and the tires exhibit very little flex under cornering, better steering response, better steering precision.

[AZhitman]

*Sigh*

Here we go again....

If someone proposed running a tire TOO narrow, you can bet Falk (and a few others here) would come out in defense of it.

I remember the bleating well from some other threads: "If you haven't DONE it, shut up!"

God forbid anyone should propose running a wider tire around here.

Well, I have. 255/50/16's on a 7" wide OEM 20-slot 1997 Q45 rim.

255 and 265/40/18's on an 8" wide OEM 2004 Q45 rim.

I'm about to throw some 275's on it just to shut some folks up.

I've been running tires that are "too" wide (for the attorneys who have never even changed the oil on a car) for 20 years now.

Road course, Auto-X, drag, lots of racing in my past. I'm weary of the double standard.

TireRack, athough a great resource, is NOT the end-all, be-all of tire knowledge. Trust me, their fitment guide is riddled with inaccuracies. Blame the lawyers.

Please, please, please - If you're not spending at least one weekend a month doing some pretty radical modifications to cars (and no, a fusa and emblems don't count), then be quiet.

[AZhitman]

BTW - While Kevin's generally correct that a fatter sidewall will have more tendency to "roll", there's EQUALLY as much problem with a "stretched" tire not having it's outer treadblocks perpendicular to the pavement.

I can list a dozen performance cars that run a wider tire than "recommended". That argument holds no water.

There is a "sweet spot" for section width vs. rim width, but it's not on the stretched end of the spectrum, regardless of what you might believe.

[Falkdesigns]

I've auto-x'd lot's in my past, built an RX-7 for Improved Touring (only to have it stolen), race go-karts at least 5-6 times a year, have driven a late-model Nascar, and work in the racing industry, with people that race. I personally know Bill Auberlin, John Dunn (Jim Dunn Racing), have spoken with Gary Scelzi, Larry Dixon, and other professional racers. One of my co-workers races shifter karts (his sons teach at Derek Daly's racing school, one of them spent a few years in Europe racing Formula Palmer Audi), one races Sprint cars, and my boss used to race Stock cars. I speak from experience and extensive research, not out of my bung-hole.

edit: I never recommended "stretch" tires, I just mean using the widest wheel recommended for a given tire size. So if the "recommend" wheel width for a 275 is 8.5-10", I'd go with the 10". Just an example there as I have 275 on 9.5" it's *slightly* stretched, I wouldn't call it stretched though.

[CrimsonQ]

2nd group hug today

:P

[AZhitman]

...and work in the racing industry, with people that race..

I know, Kevin. You've mentioned that, ad nauseum.

You're a designer. You make fancy race suits so the drivers look good.

I'm not gonna get in a pissing match with you. I'm not trying to be an *** here, but none of what you listed is relevant.

By this logic, I know a ton about football because I watch it on TV, I've met Brett Favre, I coached Pop Warner and my Mom went to SuperBowl I and II with her then-husband (Packers business staff). Look out Bill Belechick.

* New 911 GT3 runs a 295/30/18 on an 11" wheel. Tread width is 12". Certainly not narrower than the rim width.

* Don't even look at Millen's old Z32. That car would make the attorneys for TireRack crap their pants.

* NASCAR cars, as you should know, run a 15x9.5" wheel, with a 12" tread surface. Nowhere NEAR the upper end of the spectrum.

* Indy Cars? 10" wide front wheels, 11.2" tread. 14" wide rear wheels, 15" tread.

Bottom line is this, and I said it before: The sweet spot is somewhere in between, and what you think "looks good" is irrelevant to the physics involved.