2016 Obama's America Movie

[Eikon]

Anyone see it yet?

http://2016themovie.com/

My gut reaction is that it's politically motivated and therefor not entirely believable. I'm guessing it's the republican version of a Michael Moore movie.

But.. who knows? Maybe it's true??

Anyone have an opinion?

[Bubba1]

Anyone see it yet?

http://2016themovie.com/

My gut reaction is that it's politically motivated and therefor not entirely believable. I'm guessing it's the republican version of a Michael Moore movie.

But.. who knows? Maybe it's true??

Anyone have an opinion?

I agree . It seems like a Republican Moore movie without the humor. I'm sure it'll to appeal to Romney supporters. The author/producer clearly dislikes Obama, but I chuckled during the FoxNews interview where they even poked holes in the author's theories.

[stebo0728]

Haven't seen it yet, maybe this upcoming weekend. Supposed to hit more theatres in the next few weeks, we'll see.

[WDRacing]

I've read about 45 reviews. Most state that they assumed it would be an Obama bash fest, but it actually wasn't. More of a documentary about his childhood that includes a real close look into his family. I guess his Dad was a card carrying Communist. I didn't know that...

[stebo0728]

I think its needed, if its accurate, or as unbiased as possible. CNN is running a special on Romney that goes all the way to his childhood, but they're supposed equal time piece on Obama only covers his last 4 years. If this movie can shed some light on Obama's anti-american upbringing, that's sorely needed.

[stebo0728]

And Ill expound on that last part. People talk about how Romney is out of touch with America, out of touch with the middle class. This may have some truth to it, but just as much so or MORE, Mr. Obama is out of touch with America as well. He wasn't raised in America, save a few years in Hawaii, but even in Hawaii, theres not a huge Americanization, and at the time he was a child there, it was even less so. Then he was raised in Indonesia, I dont care that it was a Medrossa (sp?) school, for that part of the world, that was par for the course, and I dont think that alone is a problem. His mother was anti-America, and his first order of business upon reamerging in America was to seek out communist, marxist mentors. His senatorial campaign started in the home of a terrorlst, a man who has never recanted, and has been quoted to feel as though his actions "were not enough". His upbringing means he has ZERO knowledge or experience with the plight of the black american male. If the movie can bring alot of this to light without having an overly right bias, I think it could be a useful tool. If its just the right's version of a Michael Moore flick, well then that will be awefully sad, but not exactly surprising. Though, does the fact that the creator of this film is not a native American help or hurt the credibility of the film?

[Eikon]

As much as I dislike Obama, I can't believe the insinuation that he's tring to destroy America from the inside out. I just can't get behind that idea. Again, I haven't seen the movie, but from a couple reviews I read, that seems to be a common theme.

It wouldn't surprise me if his family was anti-american, but you can't say 100% that a kid will follow his parents beliefs. Let's not forget, he grew up here in the US (for the most part) and his father was not here.

[WDRacing]

How better to impair America's prosperity then to destroy it's economy. Whether it was his intention or not is moot at this point. He actions speak so loudly that I can't hear him.

[stebo0728]

Wait, now theres a difference between wanting to DESTROY America, and wanting to weaken it to a point that its equal with Europe. I dont for a minute believe that Obama wants to DESTROY America, and I dont think any sane individual would think this either. BUT, I DO believe he has an agenda to bring America in line with Europe, and I think its part of a overall theme to usher in a one world society. This sounds nice, but we have to remember, there are some nations that are not going to play along, EVER, like Russia, China, Iran, probably most Arabic nations, and thus, if not done properly, such a "one world society" will fall to a position of mediocrity, where the economic devastation of Europe will drag the rest, including America if it joins, down the tube, and the "persona non gratas" of the world will pounce.

[WDRacing]

I haven't found it loaded anywhere online yet...I miss demonoid badly. Lots of fake copies though...mofos!

[stebo0728]

I haven't found it loaded anywhere online yet...I miss demonoid badly. Lots of fake copies though...mofos!

thepiratebay.org - only if you already own it though

[WDRacing]

Its not on tpb yet, or any of the top 5 sites.

[stebo0728]

People who actually want to see this probably aren't the movie pirating type LOL

[themadscientist]

Weapons grade irony there!

I don't really need to see the movie. What I already knew in 2008 was enough for me to reject him and his ideas. He has only proven me correct on all counts except his spine. He is weaker at pursuing his agenda than I thought which is a good thing. I similarly don't need any more information to determine his opponent is not much better. We are f***, no two ways about it. Hudson, what do you think?

[Eikon]

[Marenta]

I'm REALLY tired of voting for the lesser of two evils...

[WDRacing]

I'm REALLY tired of voting for the lesser of two evils...

High five on that one.

[themadscientist]

Maybe vote for the greater of two evils? Is Pat Buchannen running this year?

[BusyBadger]

I'm REALLY tired of voting for the lesser of two evils...

[themadscientist]

We need a damned Like button!

[IBCoupe]

I've read about 45 reviews. Most state that they assumed it would be an Obama bash fest, but it actually wasn't. More of a documentary about his childhood that includes a real close look into his family. I guess his Dad was a card carrying Communist. I didn't know that...

I would be skeptical about anything this movie says.

[IBCoupe]

And Ill expound on that last part. People talk about how Romney is out of touch with America, out of touch with the middle class. This may have some truth to it, but just as much so or MORE, Mr. Obama is out of touch with America as well. He wasn't raised in America, save a few years in Hawaii, but even in Hawaii, theres not a huge Americanization, and at the time he was a child there, it was even less so. Then he was raised in Indonesia, I dont care that it was a Medrossa (sp?) school, for that part of the world, that was par for the course, and I dont think that alone is a problem. His mother was anti-America, and his first order of business upon reamerging in America was to seek out communist, marxist mentors. His senatorial campaign started in the home of a terrorlst, a man who has never recanted, and has been quoted to feel as though his actions "were not enough". His upbringing means he has ZERO knowledge or experience with the plight of the black american male. If the movie can bring alot of this to light without having an overly right bias, I think it could be a useful tool. If its just the right's version of a Michael Moore flick, well then that will be awefully sad, but not exactly surprising. Though, does the fact that the creator of this film is not a native American help or hurt the credibility of the film?

[citation needed] x a million.

[WDRacing]

I've read about 45 reviews. Most state that they assumed it would be an Obama bash fest, but it actually wasn't. More of a documentary about his childhood that includes a real close look into his family. I guess his Dad was a card carrying Communist. I didn't know that...

I would be skeptical about anything this movie says.

I'm skeptical about everything so...

blah blah blah

[citation needed] x a million.

Not everything needs a citation. Just because someone offers an opinion and is basing it on things he/she read somewhere at some point doesn't mean it requires a reference. Can you not discuss something with the owner of the opinion without needing to hear/see it from it's original author? Clearly Stebo is voicing an opinion, not a quoted factual statement.

No reference means you can't discredit what he's saying, but we're just talking here. The point isn't to discredit any sort of opposition.

[Marenta]

I'm all for giving citation if I pulled the information from a credible source. However, if I am just stating my position on something, I rarely provide references.

On the other hand, I try not to watch movies that have politics in them. If I wanted to see a movie about idiots, I'd watch any of the Jack A$$ movies.

[IBCoupe]

Claiming that President Obama's mother was anti-American, for example, really is the sort of thing that looks a lot more like a claim than an opinion. Just because Stebo announces his opinion in the same paragraph does not mean that every assertion made in it should be given deference.

[WDRacing]

I'll counter with, just because Stebo says it, doesn't mean it's fact nor intended to be fact. If we're talking in a bar over an ice cold beer, can we not have this conversation?

[Marenta]

No! Absolutely not!

Bars are for cheesy pick-up lines, girls with clothes falling off, and overly drunk tools trying to pick up an 8 which is in reality a 3.

Leave these "deep" conversations for the stoners. :P

[stebo0728]

Citations may or may not follow. I wrote my post a bit differently than I intended, or at least differently than I hope I had intended. My intention was to say that IF it can be shown by this film, and supporting sources, that Ann Dunham was anti-american and this philosophy influenced Obama, that needs to be brought to light. I did put a bit more of an outright statement tone to it though.

I saw a report Marenta, recently somewhere, that statistically, the drunker men get the more they talk about abstract things such as politics and philosophy, and the drunker women get the more clothes begin to come off.

[Marenta]

I heard that same thing, too, stebo.

When men are sober they talk about women, when men are drunk they talk about abstract topics. I can't remember where I heard that, though.

Just because a parent believes one way or another doesn't mean the child will be of the same ilk. It's probably almost a 50-50 for kids who grow up in a fundamentalist household whether or not they grow up with the same ideals or ideals that "rage against the machine." I know just as many kids who are opposite of their parents as they are similar.

[IBCoupe]

It seems more of the "What if this terrible thing I just thought of is true" variety of conspiracy theories. Why are we even asking whether President Obama's mother was anti-American?