2014 Rogue Select TCM info

Post by **Iheartjeeps** » Wed Dec 14, 2022 6:11 pm

Good evening, I’m new to rogues but have always been an avid Nissan fan. I have a paperweight currently and was hoping somebody here could guide me in the right direction.
I currently seem to be stuck in “low” gear along with the associated code P1778. I have diagnosed the code accordingly with the fsm and come to the conclusion that the tcm is at fault. Now here comes my question…. What numbers have to match up when ordering a replacement off eBay? I am aware of the replacement tcm needing to be synced with the rom in the valve body and an error code will pop up till it’s done but it should “shift” normally to determine if that was indeed the issue? Sorry for the run on sentences (typing this on my phone lol)

I have updated the rogue with a 4 port beehive, a beefy cooler, new fluid, new filters and also replaced the stepper motor with a rock auto unit.

And before anyone says to search lol I literally went through all 168 pages searching for info pertaining to my situation with little to no help.

Post by **Iheartjeeps** » Wed Dec 14, 2022 6:55 pm

Confirmed that the primary and secondary speed sensors are reading data not sure if the secondary should be roughly half of the primary but it stayed constant (1/2 the speed) and the gear ratio/ stepper motor stayed maxed out. Not sure how to upload the file from my scanner to a video so I just took a picture lol.

Post by **VStar650CL** » Wed Dec 14, 2022 7:12 pm

The 310F6-1VA1A is the hardware part number. However, it fits MR16 Jukes as well as gen1 QR25 Rogues and there will be no way to tell what firmware is in a used one unless you have the donor VIN. Your assumption about it working well enough to get to a dealer or proving anything about your problem is a crapshoot. You'll very likely need to get it reprogrammed in addition to reading-in the IP Char values from your Valve Body. Make sure the dealer knows it's a used unit, they'll need to get the correct ROM ID from the Parts Department and program it as if it's blank. If they try to use the "reprogram" function, Consult will simply pick the latest update for whatever program is already in it.

Post by **Iheartjeeps** » Wed Dec 14, 2022 7:26 pm

https://www.ebay.com/itm/325270725894

I'll be picking this one up lol

the thing is i would rather not take it to the dealer if i can avoid it for now. I am not against replacing the tranny/tcu combo from a donor vehicle but i figured maybe i could get it "running" with a new "to me" tcu then and only then would i fork over the extra coin to have the dealer sync everything together.

watched a few vids on youtube about the stepper motor replacement and it seemed to help others but of course my luck its something deeper. back story on the paperweight 167k owned by a cleaning lady who took the car out for dinner one day and mid trip car started driving funny so she turned back home and its been stuck in "low" gear since.

Post by **VStar650CL** » Wed Dec 14, 2022 7:31 pm

At least you know it came from a Rogue, and the differences between the FWD and AWD firmware aren't huge. I'd say that's a good candidate.

Post by **casperfun** » Wed Dec 14, 2022 11:37 pm

Iheartjeeps wrote: ↑
Wed Dec 14, 2022 6:11 pm

I have updated the rogue with a 4 port beehive, a beefy cooler, new fluid, new filters and also replaced the stepper motor with a rock auto unit.

I would like to give you a Christmas compliment on a job well done.

Even though I am mechanically inclined with small repairs here and there, this job is just a tad above my pay grade or it's just too tedious for me to attempt correctly. Even though I gave it some thought many years ago.

Not to sound braggy, but more of being at ease, gratitude, & appreciation that I have no ecm/ tcm issues, etc., or whatever these problems are that I occasionally read about on these forums. Personally I am not in the consult repair knowledge level and hopefully won't need this, knock on wood.

I'm just happy that my 13 yr old rogue still gets me from point A to B everyday with no problems. It's such a gift when you don't have to worry about mechanical breakdowns on top of a normal hectic day. Transportation is so crucial for many in society and a perfectly running engine is a godsend. Also much love to my personal garage car inspector, these last few years have been totally stress free ever since I ditched my dealership inspections. No longer do I get threats of a failed inspections on questionable repairs. Follow that tip folks.

Love you local mechanic John, I trust you and thanks for your integrity in the Automotive field in my city. Makes my holidays more pleasant.

Post by **Iheartjeeps** » Thu Dec 15, 2022 6:45 am

casperfun wrote: ↑
Wed Dec 14, 2022 11:37 pm

Iheartjeeps wrote: ↑
Wed Dec 14, 2022 6:11 pm

I have updated the rogue with a 4 port beehive, a beefy cooler, new fluid, new filters and also replaced the stepper motor with a rock auto unit.
I would like to give you a Christmas compliment on a job well done. Even though I am mechanically inclined with small repairs here and there, this job is just a tad above my pay grade or it's just too tedious for me to attempt correctly. Even though I gave it some thought many years ago.

Not to sound braggy, but more of being at ease, gratitude, & appreciation that I have no ecm/ tcm issues, etc., or whatever these problems are that I occasionally read about on these forums. Personally I am not in the consult repair knowledge level and hopefully won't need this, knock on wood.

I'm just happy that my 13 yr old rogue still gets me from point A to B everyday with no problems. It's such a gift when you don't have to worry about mechanical breakdowns on top of a normal hectic day. Transportation is so crucial for many in society and a perfectly running engine is a godsend. Also much love to my personal garage car inspector, these last few years have been totally stress free ever since I ditched my dealership inspections. No longer do I get threats of a failed inspections on questionable repairs. Follow that tip folks.

Love you local mechanic John, I trust you and thanks for your integrity in the Automotive field in my city. Makes my holidays more pleasant.

Thanks for the kind words.

Even though this isn't my daily driver its taking up room in the garage where my CTS-V should be lol, she doesn't like the cold

Post by **Iheartjeeps** » Tue Dec 20, 2022 6:40 am

Just an update to my situation......THE ROGUE IS STILL A GIANT PAPERWEIGHT. might just have to end up replacing the transmission.

Love Nissans but the quality has gone downhill since they were bought out a while back, their trucks are still rock solid but the rest is a crap shoot.

Post by **Iheartjeeps** » Wed Dec 28, 2022 3:14 am

Found several 2010 transmissions, mine being a 2014 is it safe to assume they are interchangeable? also would it matter if the vin says built here/japan?

Post by **VStar650CL** » Wed Dec 28, 2022 5:35 am

The same 2 AWD reman numbers fit all years of the gen1 from '08~'15, so as long as you're getting the TCM with it, you shouldn't have any intractable issues.

Post by **Iheartjeeps** » Wed Dec 28, 2022 8:28 am

Good to hear, thanks bud.

Post by **VStar650CL** » Wed Dec 28, 2022 8:31 am

Post by **Iheartjeeps** » Wed Jan 04, 2023 6:44 am

Hey VStar....i have the transmission out and while i have it out ill be replacing the rear main. By chance do you happen to know to torque specs for the flexplate bolts? i recall seeing 80 ftlbs in the fsm somewhere a while back? is that accurate?

Post by **VStar650CL** » Wed Jan 04, 2023 7:02 am

38 lbs/ft. See TM-226. I checked, the '14~'15 are identical to the '13:
https://www.nicoclub.com/service-manual ... 3%2FTM.pdf

Post by **VStar650CL** » Wed Jan 04, 2023 7:09 am

Crank flange bolts are 80 lbs/ft, I guess you meant those. See EM-93. That's also identical on the '14~'15:
https://www.nicoclub.com/service-manual ... 3%2FEM.pdf

Post by **Iheartjeeps** » Wed Jan 04, 2023 7:41 am

Yes, I was referring to the flexplate to crank bolts but I also needed the 4 torque converter bolt spec too so thanks again for the quick replies.

Post by **VStar650CL** » Wed Jan 04, 2023 5:29 pm

Post by **Iheartjeeps** » Wed Feb 01, 2023 10:26 am

Finally sourced a replacement transmission and started almost done replacing it but i seem to have 1 plug that im not sure what it goes to. its near the starter and speed sensor wiring. i'll have to snap a pic later this evening but if anyone has insight id appreciate it. the starter is plugged in and so is the speed sensor. there looks to be a 3 pin plug in that area as well.

Post by **VStar650CL** » Wed Feb 01, 2023 1:02 pm

On the 10A tranny there are only two connections besides the main umbilical and the Range Switch. Both are 3 wires, the Primary and Secondary sensors. Your mystery connector has to be one or the other if it goes to the tranny. See TM-14 here:
https://www.nicoclub.com/service-manual ... 3%2FTM.pdf

The wiring diagram starts on TM-135 and I'm pretty sure there are no changes from '13 to '15, so if you're stumped you can probably identify it from the wire colors.

Post by **Iheartjeeps** » Wed Feb 01, 2023 5:45 pm

I don’t think it’s plugged into the transmission but it’s near where the rear speed sensor is plugged into. I posted a couple pics and in the background you can see the rear speed sensor already plugged in.

Post by **Iheartjeeps** » Wed Feb 01, 2023 5:50 pm

Nevermind I found it, crankshaft position sensor lol. I feel dumb now haha.

Post by **VStar650CL** » Wed Feb 01, 2023 6:04 pm

The only thing I see on the F-Harness that matches is the crank sensor, Pink/Black/Red. On a gen1 that's in the right neighborhood.

Post by **VStar650CL** » Wed Feb 01, 2023 6:06 pm

Lol, you posted while I was looking it up.

Post by **Iheartjeeps** » Wed Feb 01, 2023 6:23 pm

VStar650CL wrote: ↑
Wed Feb 01, 2023 6:06 pm
Lol, you posted while I was looking it up.

Thanks for the help once again boss.

Post by **Iheartjeeps** » Mon Feb 13, 2023 6:53 pm

Rogue is up and running once again but it seems to lug around at low speeds and make more noise than it should unless you throttle into it a bit more. I’d say less than 25mph with 1/4 throttle or less, could it be the tcm needs reflashed with an updated file? Tranny and tcm were out of a 2009-2010 model with 126k.

Cruised around on the highway for 100miles and it performs great it’s just that low speed hiccup.

Post by **VStar650CL** » Mon Feb 13, 2023 9:31 pm

That doesn't sound like a tranny issue. Maybe you created a vacuum leak?

Post by **Iheartjeeps** » Tue Feb 14, 2023 6:02 am

Drove it to work this morning and have some updates, i do not believe it is a vacuum leak, engine runs fine throughout the entire rpm range in park..... only under light load between 1k-1500rpm does this mystery noise seem to appear, almost sounds like something rattling but the odd thing is that while the engine/ tranny begin to make this noise it seems to be causing the serpentine belt system to chirp or squeal like its "lugging" it down.

I tried to replicate it during different scenarios and it doesn't matter if you come off an exit from the freeway or driving in a parking lot it seems to rattle in that sweet spot of 1k-1500k.
almost as if the transmission shifts into a higher ratio, id compare it to driving a manual in low speed in high gear. no vibrations or lurching forward just a consistent rattle and the belt chirping. I have not looked into the pulleys but the belt looks great. might be an exhaust piece or something that's causing it but I haven't been able to put it on a lift to check.

Reason I brought up the tcm update is considering the combo came from a older model maybe the recall re-flash was never done.... and that's just grasping at straws because I'm not aware of what the recall/ re-flash problem/update was lol.

Post by **Iheartjeeps** » Tue Feb 14, 2023 6:24 am

concerns-about-cvt-trans-t295532-80.html

3rd post down seems to be what i'm experiencing. im looking into these two tsb

NTB09126
NTB14018

Post by **VStar650CL** » Tue Feb 14, 2023 6:34 am

If it's occurring at light throttle with a load then it's panel and exhaust drumming from the torque converter staying locked up, we call that the "old lady" noise. The TCM repro will reduce it but may not get rid of it, it's part of a gas-saving scheme as the poster noted. It's also entirely possible you knocked a heat shield loose during the replacement. If it's just a noise and not a palpable vibration, there's a good chance it's just a broken tack weld.

Post by **Iheartjeeps** » Tue Feb 14, 2023 6:41 am

VStar650CL wrote: ↑
Tue Feb 14, 2023 6:34 am
If it's occurring at light throttle with a load then it's panel and exhaust drumming from the torque converter staying locked up, we call that the "old lady" noise. The TCM repro will reduce it but may not get rid of it, it's part of a gas-saving scheme as the poster noted. It's also entirely possible you knocked a heat shield loose during the replacement. If it's just a noise and not a palpable vibration, there's a good chance it's just a broken tack weld.

the broken tack weld would not explain why the belt chirps though lol. as far as a tcm reprogram is that something pricey? given that this vehicle is a 2014 id assume it had the most up to date file in its tcm but being it has an older combo would they still do it? I guess ill just have to take it in and explain whats going on. Im sure they'll say the transmission needs to be replaced lol and then charge me to tell me that.

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