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First impressions?

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Starting price is $10,990

More pics and a rundown of the specs can be found here.
http://www.thecarconnection.com/news/10 ... d+Blogs%29

It doesn't look bad, from the internet. My friend at the local dealership is supposed to let us know as soon as one of these comes in so I can drive it and write a review. I want to compare the base and the top-of-the-line and see if either model is worth the asking price.


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It wants to be swoopy but comes across as tall and awkward.

The ugly Yaris isn't scared.

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The Yaris is too ugly to be scared.

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It has a saggy butt.

It is uglier than the Yaris.

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I think people will still prefer the looks of the hatch, even though there won't be any change to it for 2012.

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Muffin top.

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It looks like a baby with a full diaper. But the people looking to buy a really cheap, new car won't care.

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nissangirl74 wrote:First impressions?

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Starting price is $10,990

More pics and a rundown of the specs can be found here.
http://www.thecarconnection.com/news/10 ... d+Blogs%29

It doesn't look bad, from the internet. My friend at the local dealership is supposed to let us know as soon as one of these comes in so I can drive it and write a review. I want to compare the base and the top-of-the-line and see if either model is worth the asking price.
It looks like a 75% sized Altima....Compare the above pic to the 2011 Altima sedan below:

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Eliminate the little chrome trim at the bottom of the radiator intake, change the front turn signals, paint over the horizontal intake trim, remove the side moulding, and wheel arch creases and they look very similar. IMHO Nissan's exterior designers were lazy with the Versa.

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Nissan tries to make the small cars look like the big ones without much success. The Sentra has never been a good looking car. The Versa is looks crunched. I have a Rogue and it looks squished to me as well. I don't know why this happens. The Maxima. Altima, and Murano all look sporty. I do not what Nissan does to the smaller cars? It is a shame because as a Nissan fan I know a lot of people would love to drive these cars. They do not like the looks and stay away.

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Nissan design does not understand the importance of proportions.

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It looks like a pill bug on wheels...

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MinisterofDOOM wrote:It has a saggy butt.

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It looks like a Sentra with Down Syndrome.

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It looks like a dumpy 2008 Elantra.

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Lowes11 wrote:Nissan tries to make the small cars look like the big ones without much success. The Sentra has never been a good looking car. The Versa is looks crunched. I have a Rogue and it looks squished to me as well. I don't know why this happens. The Maxima. Altima, and Murano all look sporty. I do not what Nissan does to the smaller cars? It is a shame because as a Nissan fan I know a lot of people would love to drive these cars. They do not like the looks and stay away.
The B13 pulled off Maxima styling magnificently. The B15, while bland, wore "big car" styling quite effectively too. The thing that sets those two apart from the rest of Nissan's compact offerings of the last 20 years is, as Jesda said above, proportion. The B14 and B16 are way too tall to wear their bigger siblings' clothes. And the new Versa is, too.

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Loki wrote:It looks like a baby with a full diaper.
:yesnod

...and for the love of God, can Nissan build anything WITHOUT 7" of wheel gap?

GET THEE MOAR LOW, NAO!!!!

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AZhitman wrote:
Loki wrote:It looks like a baby with a full diaper.
:yesnod

....and can Nissan build anything without 7" WHEELS?
DNFTFY, but did FT some more. :)

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Meanwhile at Hyundai...
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The 2012 Accent is just as tall and bulbous, but Hyundai designers cleverly mask its height by breaking up the body into layers. The headlights are also closer to the ground, so the eyes start at a lower point before sweeping backward, giving the viewer an impression of sportiness and sleekness.

They did an unusually good job with an unpleasant package.

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It pains me to say it, but Hyundai / Kia are kicking the piss out of Nissan lately.

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A true man will admit defeat, run away and come back to kick a** another day.

Nissan has nothing to battle the Genesis or the Scion FRS coming soon.

Kill the Versa.

Drop the Sentra into that price point.

Make an S16 or Re-launch the S15 in north america.

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Reverend D21 wrote:It looks like a dumpy 2008 Elantra.

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BINGO!

That was my first thought when I saw it.

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It looks like the B15 Sentra had sex with an L32 Altima. Nissan, the hell are you doing?

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http://www.automobilemag.com/reviews/dr ... index.html
The brand-new 2012 Nissan Versa definitely has the small, budget-friendly thing down. The car fails, however, to achieve the magic 40-mpg mark; the EPA rates the CVT-equipped Versa sedan at 30/38 mpg city/highway and the stick-shifted car at 27/36 mpg.

Does 40 mpg really matter?
Nissan officials downplay the shortness of spec, stressing that all competitive vehicles cost more and that some require costly option packages to reach the sacred four-oh. "Cost of ownership" and "buzz versus reality" are more important than fuel mileage, according to vice president of product planning Larry Dominique, who says that the EPA estimates the Versa's annual fuel cost at $36 more than that of the also-new-for-2012 Hyundai Accent, which is rated at 30/40 mpg. Fortunately for Nissan, a similarly equipped base Accent also happens to cost $3205 more than the Versa. Unfortunately for Nissan, the Accent is a markedly nicer car that also happens to weigh about the same and offers 29 extra horsepower.
Fortunately for Nissan, a similarly equipped base Accent also happens to cost $3205 more than the Versa. Unfortunately for Nissan, the Accent is a markedly nicer car that also happens to weigh about the same and offers 29 extra horsepower.

The Versa's low price is definitely its biggest asset.
The difference between 38 and 40 mpg is meaningless, but in terms of marketing, Nissan will suffer. Additionally, as compensation for tolerating the Versa's ugliness, one would expect class-leading fuel economy or technology. But, no. Its still ugly, and in return you get nothing.

By competing on price alone, Nissan is positioning itself where Chevrolet used to be in the 90s, when they had to bribe people to take home Cavaliers. And yes, GM sold a lot of J-bodies back then and Nissan sells a lot of Versas right now, but look at how few of those Cavalier owners came back to GM when it was time to upgrade.

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Just FYI.... the Hatch gets a re-model in 2013.

http://www.thecarconnection.com/news/10 ... -by-a-year

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Space Monkey wrote:A true man will admit defeat, run away and come back to kick a** another day.

Nissan has nothing to battle the Genesis or the Scion FRS coming soon.

Kill the Versa.

Drop the Sentra into that price point.

Make an S16 or Re-launch the S15 in north america.
I suspect Nissan is going to wait and see how the Sci-yota does with its small 4 cyl RWD platform before doing anything. But Nissan actually does have something to battle Genesis sedan, the Maxima if they simply lengthen it without raising the price.

Nissan also has the 370z to compete against the Genesis Coupe. They need to be careful not to make the same mistake they did with the 300ZX, which is bloat the price so no one would buy them new.

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We need to do another fuel economy poll for new versa owners. I'd be interested in seeing if the CVT actually beats the manual in real world applications. IIRC, the manual SMOKED the CVT in the last comparison, even though the EPA disagreed.

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It looks like a cartoon hippopotamus.

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Wheels look way too small.

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PapaSmurf2k3 wrote:We need to do another fuel economy poll for new versa owners. I'd be interested in seeing if the CVT actually beats the manual in real world applications. IIRC, the manual SMOKED the CVT in the last comparison, even though the EPA disagreed.
I've never driven an automatic that beat a manual (comparing the same number of cylinders and fuel delivery)


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