2009 240Z build

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Re: (improved1)

Postby Nismo24zero » Sun May 10, 2009 5:46 pm

im gonna have to be honest with you when i saw that you had a new build i was pumped an am now a full subscriber lol good luck with your build i live about 20 min south of youngstown and there is supposed to be some pretty big nissan meets this summer up here if you dont mind a decent drive you guys should come out to at least one of them ill get some dates if your interested


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Re: (Nismo24zero)

Postby gmac708 » Mon May 11, 2009 12:58 pm

Nismo24zero wrote:im gonna have to be honest with you when i saw that you had a new build i was pumped an am now a full subscriber lol good luck with your build i live about 20 min south of youngstown and there is supposed to be some pretty big nissan meets this summer up here if you dont mind a decent drive you guys should come out to at least one of them ill get some dates if your interested
Yes, I would love to meet fellow NICOnauts. PM or post info!

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Re: 2009 Z build (gmac708)

Postby pauliedrft » Thu May 14, 2009 10:45 pm

Definitely be watching this one like i did the s14 build . keep it up man.

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Re: 2009 Z build

Postby c-dawg » Fri May 15, 2009 6:45 pm

this is awesome! can't wait to see more!

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Postby GRNMACHINE » Fri May 15, 2009 7:21 pm

wOw, what they all said..... AWESOME. Subscribing, newer to the NICO world.

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update

Postby gmac708 » Sat May 16, 2009 4:03 pm

Finally got around to starting on the floors and frame rails.

I have decided to install a frame rail that ties the front and back chassis supports together. It seems to be the product of choice for the big HP V8 modified Z's and is made by Bad Dog parts. http://www.baddogparts.com/

I have also decided to replace the floor pans at the same time and just get everything cleaned up down there. I am using the Zedd findings floor pans. http://www.datsunzparts.com/NewParts/summary.htmThey too seem to be the product of choice.

I have never attempted this before so we all should learn something.

I measured and stared at everything for two weeks, so I guess it's time to start drilling. Got my favorite 5 lb hammer too



Drilled off the seat supports using a spot weld drill.



Here is the back frame support from the Bad dog rail. Just checking the fit before I drill the floor out.



OK...all the spot welds are drilled...

time to cut the old front support...



Cam cut the corners, how appropriate...







Now to get busy on the weld nubs. Everything needs to be spotless for the welding. Who's that guy???



A little trim here and there and TA-DA!



I will get it fitting perfect tomorrow with the Bad Dog rails installed. Then we get to weld .


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Re: update (gmac708)

Postby leesredgt » Sat May 16, 2009 4:33 pm

Looking good man!

Keep it up.

Have you chosen a color yet?

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Re: update (leesredgt)

Postby gmac708 » Sat May 16, 2009 4:38 pm

I say black, but I am not commited. I just can't do orange.

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Re: update (gmac708)

Postby leesredgt » Sun May 17, 2009 3:03 am

Black would look great.I think black looks good on any car really.Def. cant go wrong with it.

Def. do not do orange.

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Re: update (leesredgt)

Postby Kalypso » Sun May 17, 2009 3:08 am

this build is serious

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Re: update (Kalypso123)

Postby nuinqua » Sun May 17, 2009 5:52 am

Hey, mine is orange!

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Update

Postby gmac708 » Sun May 17, 2009 1:58 pm

I had some good progress today.

Started with the Bad Dog rails.

Start with this...



Front rail was lifted in place. I had to do a bunch of cutting on the old rail because it was damaged from the car bottoming out on something.



Here it is in place. Need to keep it parallel with the other side.



Back support in position...



Now, to roll a flange on the floor pan. Had this tool left over from the 240SX build. Used it to roll the bead flanges on the intake piping.



Everything coming together.





Then... I worked on getting the front rail to fit up and tight to the front frame. This took a lot of work.



The outboard part of the floor pan still needs some trimming, but I should be able to weld this together soon.

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Postby evildky » Sun May 17, 2009 4:34 pm

charlie odborne pans with bad do rails, exactly what I'm planning on using

why did oyu not remove the front part fo the stock rail? I believe the bad dog rail was meant to replace the stocker completely

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Re: (evildky)

Postby gmac708 » Mon May 18, 2009 3:03 pm

evildky wrote:charlie odborne pans with bad do rails, exactly what I'm planning on using

why did oyu not remove the front part fo the stock rail? I believe the bad dog rail was meant to replace the stocker completely
The front mount looked like this when I started. EWWWWWWW!



Looking from the bottom you can see it starts to taper about 10-11 inches forward of the the floor pan seam as marked with sharpie.



The new Bad Dog Rail (BDR) extends to second line (as marked).



The BDR is a simple channel and does not taper. Remove unwanted BDR.



Remove unwanted original frame.





I was removing material that was dented and not allowing the BDR from fitting up tight against the frame at the front. There is no way to extend up to the drag link support. The way I did it kept the support up against the floor and angled up to meet the drag link support. I can make new thread about the rails when they are done. I have a bunch of photo's and measurements. Pretty boring stuff, unless you are actually planning on doing it.


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Postby evildky » Mon May 18, 2009 3:20 pm

it's called a tc rod mount, a drag link is a steering bar that is used on cars with steering boxes in the days before rack and pinion

my point was removing more fo the stock rail would have made the bad dog fit a bit easier

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Re: (evildky)

Postby gmac708 » Mon May 18, 2009 3:32 pm

I get mixed up describing stuff, switch back and forth between airplanes and cars sometimes.

I tried to leave as much material on the mount as possible. Can't hurt.

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Re: update (leesredgt)

Postby Colorado Kidd » Tue May 19, 2009 6:55 pm

hey nice thread, i am planning to rip the intestines out of my car this summer and now i can see what you have done. i am hoping i dont have to replace so much of the floor though.

nice work

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update

Postby gmac708 » Sat May 23, 2009 4:05 pm

Finally got to put something together .Had a great day of welding, forgot how much fun it is to lay on my back with my hair on fire. Everything came out about as expected. Good strong welds, some look pretty good ....some look...well... . But Hey, it's my car and those are my welds! I did those, upside down and everything.









Time for a cold beer!

Tomorrow, we start on the other side.

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Re: update (gmac708)

Postby RustspecS13 » Sat May 23, 2009 6:13 pm

Wow that's looking good!

Two years ago I had a full l28ET swap, it literally was every thing except the shell and 280zx-T rims. I almost had a decently clean 260z shell too. But the shell fell through and I sold the l28et stuff.

Its nice to have a local doing a project like this, it gives me inspiration!

I was welding earlier too, I had to make a downpipe for my RB20-s13. I LOVE welding. There's just something about making something from nothing, or fixing something that's not really usable.

You should have cam message me on aim, Id like to meet up with some fellow nissan nuts!

Any way GL with the build!

~Alex

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update

Postby gmac708 » Sun May 24, 2009 3:05 pm

Left side is out.




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Postby gmac708 » Mon May 25, 2009 1:18 pm

I didn't get as much done this weekend as I had planned. I am enjoying this and there is no need to hurry, but I will be glad when I can move on to the next step. The left pan just needs trimmed on the outboard side. The left side frame rails need trimmed.





I need to get some seam sealer and figure out the undercoating.

That's it for now...

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Postby NOLA300ZX » Mon May 25, 2009 2:15 pm

Its coming along nice.

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Postby kelloggman » Sun May 31, 2009 9:29 pm

wish i had the money and the skill to do this swapits looking really good

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Postby gregfarz78 » Wed Jun 03, 2009 3:04 pm

wow this is a serious build excellent work so far, still wish I held out for a clean 240z like this but oh well someday it will be mine

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Postby IanS » Wed Jun 03, 2009 5:13 pm

so, when are you going to go nuts with POR-15? I cant wait to see this thing start to really take shape, you are making good progress.

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Update

Postby gmac708 » Sat Jun 06, 2009 2:26 pm

FlatBlackIan wrote:so, when are you going to go nuts with POR-15? I cant wait to see this thing start to really take shape, you are making good progress.


POR-15...16 whatever it takes.

I'll just throw up a few pictures today. I got the floors and rails finished as far as welding. I saw a few places that still need some more grinding and a few holes left over that need to be filled. It's tough to jump around and try to spread out the welding, but it tried to do everything as evenly as possible. Trying not to tweek the frame and panels. I need to prep surface and apply seam sealer as well.











Pretty boring stuff and I am glad it is over.

Tomorrow I am going to install a set (left and right) of single jacking points. Should be interesting.

Some of you may have wondered why I did not install the aft, welded seat support brackets.

My new seats will be here soon and I want to make sure they fit perfect.

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Re: Update (gmac708)

Postby sampsonJ » Mon Jun 08, 2009 8:46 am



..... soooo when its done :



....Trade? lol


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Re: (evildky)

Postby 1sikS13 » Mon Jun 08, 2009 4:01 pm

Dude just when i thought it could have not gotten any better then Cam's car, I peak in over here and see this s***. Gmac you sir have definately got your priorities straight when it comes to doing something right. Good work man. I cannot wait to turn wrenches with my boy when he gets older. Keep it comin

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Re: (1sikS13)

Postby S13Joe » Sat Jun 13, 2009 9:58 am

I followed you and your son's S14 build but this may be better. Everything looks great man, you do great work.

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Re: (DirtyGhettoKids)

Postby xX RB Xx » Sat Jun 13, 2009 4:33 pm

awesome thread..

any updates?


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