2007 Rogue LX Making Whiring Sound?

[Rayj00]

So our 2007 Rogue LX has been making this whiring sound for quite awhile. Kinda hard to explain, but it seems to happen
on acceleration, starting at around 1200 RPMs or 40-45 MPH. It is quite loud in the beginning then the sound level of it decreases quite a bit at about 55-60 MPH, but you can still hear it.

The wife took it to a Nissan dealer for an oil change that wound up costing over $400!! Nothing to do with the whiring sound.
This is another issue that I am going to look into!!!

They told the wife the whiring could be in the transmission? Does that make sense? I have no other mechanical issues.
The car runs fine otherwise.

I am thinking it has something to do with the air flow hitting something underneath? But what do I know?

Any ideas on what could cause this or how to troubleshoot this?

Thanks,

Ray

[Rogue One]

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BTW, there's no such thing as a 2007 Rogue LX, at least not in the US.

[Rayj00]

Opps. It's an SL. Had another car on my mind.

Sometimes a particular problem becomes common with the same model. Just thought I'd post the problem.

[Rogue One]

Your welcome to post a clip with the sound so we can get a better idea of what you're talking about. And yes it does make sense that it could be the transmission, but it's hard to know for certain without hearing the actual sound. BTW, there's an entire thread on the subject of the transmission problems. Nissan Adds 10-Year CVT Warranty AND CVT Transmission Issues. (Fail safe, Whining, Temps, & FIX!)

Vehicles are referred to by model year, not production date, so you have a 2008 SL.

[Rayj00]

I have continued reading this thread and can say that I have not experienced the "fail over" issue. On highway driving I can routinely pass other vehicles and cruise at 75-80 mph. At the higher speed, the sound intensity is much lower and less noticeable. But when I decelerate, the whining becomes much more noticeable.

I am freaking out that the local Nissan dealer will refuse to fix this. I just may trade the sucker in.

[Rsabcd]

How many miles are on it?

[Rsabcd]

Opps. It's an SL. Had another car on my mind.

Sometimes a particular problem becomes common with the same model. Just thought I'd post the problem.

The whirling whining sound is a common problem, i was told its normal( a design flaw) but have read that it is a sign that transmission failure is coming. I think Nissan no longer says the sound is normal but im not sure, It was several years ago. Im having issues with my transmission (i think anyway) and didn't have any of the common symptoms. Perhaps because i have a transmission cooler but idk... just thinking out loud. If you have an 08, with the paddle shifters you have a cooler too, that could explain the no limp mode. Again just thinking out loud. I'm probably having mine towed in tomorrow or the next day, just trying to eliminate anything i can. If my transmission isnt bad i dont wnt to take it to the dealership.

[Rayj00]

The car has 65K miles. Mostly highway miles. And it is a 2008.

So question: Is there an easy test to perform to determine whether I need a new transmission? As I said initially, the wife took the car in for an oil change and ended up dishing out over $400 on something they found defective! Not sure what they replaced. Anyway, for the trans question, they said they would have to take the transmission apart! I'm sure they would charge me labor on that!

Thanks,

Ray

[ImStricken06]

get used to it man,. thats a cvt for ya. we have a million threads about it here. its commonly referred to as a "whine".

[Rsabcd]

The car has 65K miles. Mostly highway miles. And it is a 2008.

So question: Is there an easy test to perform to determine whether I need a new transmission? As I said initially, the wife took the car in for an oil change and ended up dishing out over $400 on something they found defective! Not sure what they replaced. Anyway, for the trans question, they said they would have to take the transmission apart! I'm sure they would charge me labor on that!

Thanks,

Ray

From everything I've read, if it doesnt throw a code, it doesn't exist. I'd be willing to bet that they know tje noise is the transmission, but to get approval (get paid) it needs to show the code.

If i were you, I'd read through all tje posts concerning the cvt "whine" and then go up to Nissan yourself and get answers.

[Rayj00]

What do you mean by "throwing a code"? Does it show up on one of their testers?

[Rsabcd]

What do you mean by "throwing a code"? Does it show up on one of their testers?

It is my understanding that it does. It seems, and this just from reading a tons of posts re cvt tramsmission issues with Nissans that for the dealership to get the approval (get paid by Nissan) to do the job, the car's computer has to generate a code. Similar to when your check engine light comes on. There is a really good thread started by a guy who works at Nissan. It covers a lot about the cvt transmission. Ive spent several hours reading all about issues with tje 08-10 Rogues. You should read through it. Its in tbe 1st few pages in this sub forum.

Does your rogue have the paddle shifters?

[Rsabcd]

What do you mean by "throwing a code"? Does it show up on one of their testers?

It is my understanding that it does. It seems, and this just from reading a tons of posts re cvt tramsmission issues with Nissans that for the dealership to get the approval (get paid by Nissan) to do the job, the car's computer has to generate a code. Similar to when your check engine light comes on. There is a really good thread started by a guy who works at Nissan. It covers a lot about the cvt transmission. Ive spent several hours reading all about issues with tje 08-10 Rogues. You should read through it. Its in tbe 1st few pages in this sub forum.

Does your rogue have the paddle shifters?

[Rsabcd]

Re: CVT Transmission Issues. (Fail safe, Whining, Temps, & FIX!) <<<< This thread I bumped it...

[Rayj00]

Yes my Rogue has the paddle shifters, but I don't think we've ever used them? It's the wife's car and I know she has never used them. And I may have one time but that's it.

[Rayj00]

So, with the whiring sound, but no loss of RPMs or speed, can major damage ($$$) occur if left alone?

And should I get the transmission fluid checked or changed? I'd hate to spend over $100 to change it only to find out I need the CVT replaced.

Thanks,

Ray

[Rsabcd]

I dont know, tough call. You kind of want it to go before you run out of warranty. You have trans fluid cooler, all the Rouges with the paddles do. Bring it up there yourself, you talk to them. Dont let them do a flush, tell them you will do it or have it done.

Ive been told that Nissan corp has changed the way they handle this now. It was much easier before to get approval, now you have to jump through some hoops before the'll approve. Just keep going there. Tell them its hetting worse

[Rayj00]

Thanks Rsabcd,

Why would I not want a Nissan dealer to do the tran fluid flush?

[Rsabcd]

Thanks Rsabcd,

Why would I not want a Nissan dealer to do the tran fluid flush?

I thougbt i you said you didnt want to pay for it. Will be $300+ Its a tough call, at least from how I'm looking at it. I'd do what they say, just dont get ripped off, or void tbe warranty. The manuel says drain and fill, not flush. In my opinion, and im jist some guy not a nissan tech or even a mechanic. You want ot to go bad, your warranty is coming to an end. The flush may prolong its life, but it seems to me failure is eminent.

I talked to a nissan tech. I was concerned about my warranty. I asked him if i should change my fluid before brought it in. He told me theres no way to prove how old fluid is. The test they do is for life left in the fluid or something. Again, this is coming from some guy i talked to online, thats claims he worls for nissan. So take it for what its worth.

[Rayj00]

I meant that why should I pay for the fluid change if the CVT is covered under the extended warranty? They would then add new fluid, right?

[Rsabcd]

Heres my question to him...

Hey, i hope you dont mind that I pmed you. I read a post re the CVT tramsmission and you said you worked at Nissan. I have a question if you dont mind. I have a 2008 Rogue, always ran perfectly smooth shifting. Has made the whining sound pretty much since new. It would only do it between 50-65 mph or so. Never had any otjer symptoms of cvt failure, no fail safe mode, no slipping. Was told the whine is normal several years ago, a design flaw, i know better know. Anyway, the other day it studdered/jerked in reverse a few miles later it would shift out of 1st.
. I'm going to have it towed to dealership Monday. Here is my question. Should I change the cvt fluid before i take it in? Will my warranty be voided or denied because it wasnt done on time? Im not sure when or if it was ever done. My parents owned ot before me. The owners manual says do it at 60.
2008 Rogue, 88,000 miles

His answer to me

No problem! Some whining is normal, they do make a lot of weird noises, judders, etc. Sometimes it's normal.
Don't worry about your fluid. It really depends dealer to dealer, but as far as I can tell no one is going to try to play detective and void your warranty. There are, however, several hoops that dealers and technicians have to jump through to get "approved" for a replacement CVT. So be prepared to be told that they will be installing an external oil cooler or a valve body. The valve body is basically the hydraulic heart of the CVT and when it gets replaced it fixes most problems. The fix depends on DTCs stored and some other data.
Either way, you should have everything fixed free of charge. They have absolutely no way of proving the condition of your transmission fluid. If the dealer denies you I would consider that a red flag and never go there again.


From what I understand, Nissan corp, doesnt approve replacement of the cvt as freely as they used to but they still do replace them. Tje Dealership just wants to get paid, for warranty work Nissan corp pays them so they need approval. Tje dealership should be on your side its easy $ for them.

[Rayj00]

Seriously thinking about trading it in for a Pathfinder. Any thought on the XTRONIC CVT?