2007 Nissan 240sx?

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I happened to pick up a Road And Track Speed Magazine today at Fry's. There's a small article about a potential 2007 240sx. I guess it's about a 50% chance it might actually make the market. A quick search found me this imaged version of the article.



It looks like a Z mixed with an Echo. Hard to tell the dimensions, but it may be the size of a G35C. Otherwise the door would be rather short for a coupe. It maybe a bit tall in comparison to the last S-chassis cars. I wonder what they would put under the hood though...


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probably be QR powered

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actually to me looks like a spin off of the march almost

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wishful thinking

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Nothing like the S13. Any new car will be an outrage for the S13 purists. Electronic controls are not necessarily better controls. Computer wizardry helps, no doubt, but the driving experience will be watered down. I'll still test drive one, if it's RWD

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SmithSR wrote:Nothing like the S13.

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SmithSR wrote:Nothing like the S13. Any new car will be an outrage for the S13 purists. Electronic controls are not necessarily better controls. Computer wizardry helps, no doubt, but the driving experience will be watered down. I'll still test drive one, if it's RWD
Electronics is what makes the cars price go up. Also making the owner having to get the car serviced because of all the new electronic controllers. I think electronic controllers should be on for luxury cars.

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base9se wrote:wishful thinking


On my part? I have a G35C. Why would I want to downgrade? But I'm just the messenger. Don't shoot.

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base9se wrote:I think electronic controllers should be on for luxury cars
my thoughts exactly, thats what we have bmw for

the only electroic control ive seen stock like that is the active suspension thing on my dads volvo s60r, and personally i think theres no difference between that and a tein edfc or something of that nature really.

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i've seen that somewhere else before...maybe it was here, not sure.

anyways, the thing is freakin hideous.

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repost.

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wow, i would almost be afraid to tell people i own a 240sx if that car came out.

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LOL that was exactly my thoughts. I would be embarresed to own a legandary S13 and have to compare it to the inbred bastard cousin of the 240.

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thats why we would call ours s13/s14 or silvia or something... just not 240sx ;D sounds gooooood to me

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if it is made, i doubt it will look like that, go look at the concepts for the 350z, i used to not like it when i saw the concept, but they changed enough stuff in the right places to make me fall in love. besides, by the time that comes out, i will be outa college and rocking a 350z or G35c

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interesting..........

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It's obviously a chopped Z, even has the EXACT SAME headlights. Even if it does make it to market, as with all cars, it'll be watered down both visually and performnace-wise. Slow, detached feel, overweight and hideous. Maybe the 3g Eclipse owners can find their new car once Mitsu finally dies?

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dude, if they do that I am personally going to slash Goshens throat with a rusty piston ring! That thing is like whoa, gayness.

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base9se wrote:
Electronics is what makes the cars price go up. Also making the owner having to get the car serviced because of all the new electronic controllers. I think electronic controllers should be on for luxury cars.
I'll disagree. Technology relative to it's demand and the extent of it's use in the market is what controls this aspect of cost. Consider ABS, traction Control, HID's were all originally on higher end cars. Slowly but surely they are trickling down to the lower priced autos. But the real factor of cost is supply vs Demand. A great example of this is the Toyota Prius. If Toyota based the cost simply on the cost of the technology, it would be safe to say noone would buy it. They can probably afford to jack up the price a bit as the waiting list for it is long, it's marketability would start to fall rapidly if it became an expensive econobox.

And for comparison's sake, consider the S14 sold for up to $25K(MSRP) in 1998. The Base Model Z starts at about $28K has nearly twice the power, better performance and more technology. The cost of technology goes down overtime the longer that technology is available. To try and bring in a 287HP RWD car in 1998 would likely have been more expensive than it is today. Adding to this is the factor of competition. Power becoming inherently more affordable, the Horsepower wars have begun. Increasingly more powerful cars have become increasingly more affordable. All things considered the technology has done little to drive up costs. 10 years ago we didn't have near so many 300 HP cars easily obtained under $30K. We might even be able to thank technology for allowing us to have such great performing cars at such relatively low cost.

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SeVa-S13 wrote:It's obviously a chopped Z, even has the EXACT SAME headlights. Even if it does make it to market, as with all cars, it'll be watered down both visually and performnace-wise. Slow, detached feel, overweight and hideous. Maybe the 3g Eclipse owners can find their new car once Mitsu finally dies?
I'd guess it's on the same platform. Not necessarily a bad thing as it appears to be such a good one. I would expect it's not going to be on par with the Z as they need some differentiation, but if it somes out, it will probably cater to the drifting fanatics. The selection between a used affordable RWD drifting platform and a new much less affordable one is rather empty. I been saying for the last couple of years that someone needs to come out with an affordable RWD new car that drifters will latch onto. With stock 240sx's starting to show their age, there's little else out for those looking for a new car that can't put out over 25K for a decent RWD car. The S-Chassis was always a good chassis. But unfortunately the limitation on the engine choice hampered it's marketability. Looking at the former Eclipses, they got a lot of marketting hype out of the GS-T and GSX trims. It brought in sales of the less powerful GS and RS models. If they did bring out the new 240, I'd expect we will see the QR in at least one trim. Then perhaps a more powerful version(maybe highly tuned or supercharged) of the same motor or perhaps a not so highly tuned version of the VQ pushing the car. And if they do this(or any manufacturer for that matter) they should act quickly. While the drifting scene is not showing any decline in growth, you really want to get on board as soon as possible. In the 90's, Honda had a lot of influence on the import drag race scene. Honda actually became synonymous with import drag racing. Honda didn't just play in the game. They pretty much led the way. Other manufacturers have only recently caught up, but they do not carry the same momentum by any means.

Sorry for rambling. I was going to say though that the lights are not the same as a Z. The Z lights have an amber reflector strip on the outboard side. The Z lights also do not have 2 circular shapes within the lights. The shape is similar, yes, but notice how the lights on this car line up to the body. The Z's lights protrude into the hood and fender areas where this car has the lights to the outside of the hoodline.

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You have a G35, looking at that pic again, the lights seem more akin to some models of the G35 Coupe. (I'm not an expert on these cars so I'm not sure on any slight changes, if any--just wondering.)

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One of the things that irritates me about a new 240sx coming out would be the simple fact that:

alongside every new model kitted up with the very latest in aftermarket tomfoolery, what do we see at every major car show and aftermarket venue?

S13. Just how the hell is a car from 1989 holding position alongside kitted G35c, 350z, and every new hotshot tuner car?

Why wouldn't Nissan look at what the hell is going on at the nationwide shows and see if they can't bottle lightning once again?

If it's anything less than RWD with 2.5liter i will be sorely disappointed.. still, i'll test drive just for the sit's & giggles.

I am already afraid of what the "dealer adjusted market value" ripoff second sticker will read. They will cost plenty no matter how you shake it.

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yo if you read the article its an artist conception of the "S16". well not in that pic, but I seen the same mag, and it was an artist conception or some crap. Thats almost as lame as Emunds "Infiniti GTR".

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BomexS13 wrote:interesting..........
my thoughts exactly

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if you look on page 64 of uperstreet in august 04, theres is a rumor for a new s16, the pic they have looks alot like a r32. looks like a very beefy car.they also say it will come withqr20de inline 4, next highest trim level will be vq23 2.3 v6, then the highest trim would be a supercharged vq25. and should be marketed early next year.

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Here is a picture of the jpn. s16 concept. in my oponion it looks a lot better that the new 240.

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Forget about having a clean sheet deisign.

I know this might sound Stupid, But I think they should just build the 96.5-98 S13 Again, Put LSD in this time. And I know petty sure alot of people will buy a K-S13!

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pnissan2 wrote:Here is a picture of the jpn. s16 concept. in my oponion it looks a lot better that the new 240.
Welcome to the internet. That is just a chop someone did and has NOTHING to do with the next S-chassis, if there ever will be one. This has been covered so many times...

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ok the first one looks nasty, the second one I've seen too much and nothing beats the S14 Kouki!

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vq33de, itbs w/drive by wire, hlsd, hid, dual wishbone suspension, and wicked upgrade of heads up display w/velocimeter, tachometer, temp. meters, etc...would be nice. Of course recaro seats and brembo package optional.


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