2007 Nissan 240sx?

[Dirtylou]

Bringing back the 240 is a cool idea but I'm afraid Nissan will ruin a good rep. If that car comes out...I would call my car an s13 not a 240. Btw I don't really like too much tech in sports cars...most of the electronics that get stuffed in cars is ment to correct driver error or help with whatever but I think it really disconnects the driver with the car and the road. I don't want to imagine what a "sports" car in 6-7 yrs will be like. Anyway, that 240sx concept looks like a limpwrist, sackless version of a Z/G35...word.

[HashiriyaS14]

It needs to be RWD, turbo, and under 2800lbs.

It also absolutely must be under $25k. If it's turbo, with a stout stock block, I'll still be happy even if it's only like 200-220hp from the factory, because I can work with that.

It also needs a $1000 front brembo dealer option like the SE-R, that is a STEAL.

[nismofly]

It needs to be RWD, turbo, and under 2800lbs.

we only got two of those three the first time around, so it would be nice to get all three

[Derf]

Yeah I feel

wow, i would almost be afraid to tell people i own a 240sx if that car came out.

Yeah I feel the same way.

[tractorcrusher]

I love the looks of it... But this definately shouldn't be the new 240.

[ayesone]

itd be kinda cool if they bored out the SE-r motor in there to 2.4-5, at least we'd have an SR, possibly turbo ready.

[HashiriyaS14]

In addition, it needs to come with the same running gear (more or less) that the JDM version will ship with.

They screwed up big time with not giving us the SR20 originally, they can make it up this time by keeping the USDM car and the JDM car as close to identical as possible. I mean, one will be RHD, and the USDM one will have more cats, but look at the WRX, almost exactly the same car except for drive side and the up pipe cat...(and the crappier brakes, meh)

[dfw240_EE]

My view on electronics, especially "drive by wire" is that both mechanical and electronic components break down. I fully believe that an electronic system can now be made to be more reliable than the equivalent mechanical system with the same function.

However, the issue of "road feedback" is valid. I wonder just how much of the control of a car is performed by the computer in our heads using the simple feeling of the steering wheel. When it comes to cars, our brains are really just highly effective control computers.

[f8sjester]

but look at the WRX, almost exactly the same car except for drive side and the up pipe cat...(and the crappier brakes, meh)

I thought the USDM WRX had a completely different engine than the JDM or Euro markets. . . I could be completely off-base here but, if I remember correctly, the US version has a 2.5L while both other markets still run a 2.0L. . .

[9095240SXDUCK]

The Reg WRX has a 2.0 Turbo EJ20, The STI has a 2.5L EJ25, and the Base is a 2.5L non Turbo!

[Saint]

The first pic looks like a wanabe RSXThe second looks too upscale.Here's an idea:Make the S15 US leagle with a turbo 2.5 in it.So it may be a few years old in other markets.but it would sell like a mother here.Less start up hassel too.

[MAXIMUS Nismo]

it needs this it needs that...are they even gonna build the damn thing? First let's get confirmation then concentrate on what we can "force" them to put in it.

[AmIdYfReAk]

Bringing back the 240 is a cool idea but I'm afraid Nissan will ruin a good rep. If that car comes out...I would call my car an s13 not a 240. Btw I don't really like too much tech in sports cars...most of the electronics that get stuffed in cars is ment to correct driver error or help with whatever but I think it really disconnects the driver with the car and the road. I don't want to imagine what a "sports" car in 6-7 yrs will be like. Anyway, that 240sx concept looks like a limpwrist, sackless version of a Z/G35...word.

i can agree to a point, Nissan is taking there image a sertan way, and to maintain there current look in cars they would need to follow suit. allthough it does kinda look..... ...... .... "limp Wrist"

as for the electronic's, thats like arguing the R3X series VS the AE86 series..

The 86's Have NOTHING when it comes to features and they are LOVED for it, Wile the R3X Series Have it ALL and are LOVED for it.

[BadMojo]

Nissan AZEAL Concept Stays Close to Home in Detroit Debut (Dec. 20, 04)

Nissan’s AZEAL Coupe, the first concept car created at the new Nissan Design America, Inc. studios in Farmington Hills, Mich., is set to debut at the 2005 North American International Auto Show in Detroit in early January. The AZEAL Coupe Concept is a fresh interpretation of the “pocket rocket” – an affordable, high performance entry-level coupe with an emphasis on personality and aggressive styling.

Not sure if this is relevant to our discussion. Could be the next Sentra, or something else entirely. I like the whole bit about a "high performance entry-level coupe".

I take it that "personality and aggressive styling" means it won't be boring like a Sentra.

[mkory]

Does anyone else think the front of the second posted car looks like it was made by citroen?

[AkademikONE]

Looks like a G35 coupe to me.

[mkory]

Not the car 3 posts up, but the second one listed on the first page at http://www.nicoclub.com/zerofile/9239/s15.bmpMaybe its just me, but it screams citroen.

[ArticDragon192]

Looks like a mix of an Audi TT, a G35, and an Altima.

[BoostFab]

i don't like the look of that car.

they should make each car model look unique, not everything look like a 350Z....

[Jala47]

[weirdstyles.net]

I beleive that would be the Nissan Azeal set to debut at the '05 Detroit Auto Show, see nissannews.com

http://www.nissannews.com/mult...l.jpg

[BadMojo]

From Nissannews.com -

AZEAL Coupe Concept:The Nissan AZEAL Coupe Concept is a fresh interpretation of the classic sports coupe. The essence of the AZEAL is its clean, straightforward, agile exterior combined with a modern, driver-oriented, highly interactive interior.

AZEAL features an aggressive body design with wide fender flares, short overhangs and a sharply sloped rear roofline with integrated active airfoil. The interior combines a dark, industrial metallic instrument panel appearance contrasted by Wasabi Chartreuse fabric seats and an open greenhouse with glass-panel roof.

The AZEAL design exercise is the first concept car created by Nissan Design America’s (NDA) new studio in Farmington Hills, Mich.

“The idea behind the AZEAL is that an entry-level vehicle doesn’t have to look entry-level. Though AZEAL has the compact dimensions of a small coupe, it projects a much larger presence in terms of style, personality and desirability,” said Bruce Campbell, vice president, design, NDA.

The front-wheel drive AZEAL utilizes a turbocharged version of Nissan’s 2.5-liter 4-cylinder engine mated to a 6-speed manual transmission. It rides on 19-inch aluminum-alloy wheels with a unique sandblasted and painted surface treatment.

I put the emphasis on the last part myself.

Granted, this is a concept and from all accounts isn't at all indicative of a car anywhere close to production...still, it sounds interesting.

I'm a bit disappointed that the Azeal is FWD, but the idea of a turbocharged 2.5L engine and six speed gearbox is intruiging. Is Nissan going to build an SRT-4 killer? How can they build and price this car (if it comes to production) and not tread on the feet of the base model 350Z?

[Tsukai240]

Palorchestes azael

Palorchestes azael resembled a tapir-like animal because of the long trunk that was attached to the front of the skull, and has been called the Marsupial Tapir.

Palorchestes was a ground dwelling marsupial that possessed powerful forelimbs and razor sharp claws. It was capable of ripping through tough vegetation such as bark on tree trunks in order to obtain food.

Size comparison of human and Palorchestes azael Fossils of Palorchestes azael are extremely rare.This large marsupial was initially described as a giant kangaroo due to the similarity of its cheek teeth to those of living kangaroos.

Consequently, it was given the scientific name Palorchestes azael, which is derived from Latin and means ‘ancient leaper’.

great f'n name retards

[C-Kwik]

You know, when I saw the Azeal first on the Nissan News site, I didn't even think about it possibly being the car in the photo I posted. Interesting. I guess if it is and the Azeal is FWD, then we may have been misled. Though, it's not uncommon for magazines to throw in whatever photo they feel like based on the inside info they receive. Who knows. Either way, I think an affordable RWD coupe would be a great market for any manufacturer now. I'm talking a starting MSRP of under $20K.

[SXManiac]

Now THAT looks like a 240 not that Pugeot 206 lookin thing .

[BadMojo]

So, I wonder if the Azeal would be based off of the Renault C Platform, same as the new Sentra (or Sentra replacement).

It seems that Nissan's small car lineup would be *very* crowded with a "B Platform" car like the Cube or Micra to compete with cars like the Chevy Aveo and Kia Rio, a "C Platform" Sentra replacement, a "350Z lite" like the Azeal concept and then the base model Z starting at $26K.

So, since the new Sentra will look something like this:



Is it possible that the Azeal could be built off the same platform as competition for domestic sport compacts like the Cobalt SS, Ion Redline, SRT-4, etc. and then the SE-R Spec-V would be killed off? Could it be something more along the lines of the Megane Sport Hatch?



I just can't see room in the product lineup for a "hot" Sentra AND a car like the Azeal.

[ILikeMy240sx]

6-spd and 2.5T sounds pretty damn sweet to me. At least its got some bang behind the more "aggressive" look.

Hopefully it will be a SRT-4 killer but.... not too cheap then you will see bunch of idiotic kids getting the car from their parents and driving it with no respect for others.... *tsk tsk*

[Tsukai240]

............................you will see bunch of idiotic kids getting the car from their parents and driving it with no respect for others.... *tsk tsk*..........................

i think this is the reason why manufacures won't make affordable sports cars anymore. kids get ahold of them, they tear up the streets with it, get them selves killed or badly hurt, insurance rates go way up on them, then noone buys it anymore. ala:240sx, 3000gt, 300zx, rx-7, anything type-r,so then we get stupid cars shoved down our throaghts, like the scions, which have virtualy no performance.man bad american habbits piss me off

[Saint]

It's thease Corporate Yes Men desingers.Some one needs to take thease guys drifting.So they can wake the F up.They keep shoving all thease FWD cars down our throat.The next company that makes a RWD 2.5L I4 2+2 seaterThat is under 3000lbs for under $20K will have a rebirth in sales.There's got to be someone in Nissan saying:"Hello McFly!""240's! Drifting!""Turbo I4 RWD!""Wake up!"What happened to him?

[dfw240_EE]

The new Pontiac Solstice is a 2 seater 2.4L I4 RWD, and weighs in at ~2800lbs, and goes for $19,999.

Face it, FWD is cheap light and efficient, the big thing lately has been AWD, and drifting is popular but not so popular to cause a major auto company to change designs for it.