$2,500 for a $750 motor

Post by **SilviaLuvr** » Fri Jan 03, 2003 9:35 pm

we are getting ripped off here in the states. in http://www.djelektrique.com/ go to were it says Tokyo Auto Garage click on that...then you'll see several motors its like the third row down 2nd picture on the right it's an sr20...the ticket price reads (for those who don't feel like following simple directions) $750 for engine and trans and ecu...WTF is up wit that...

Post by **themadscientist** » Fri Jan 03, 2003 9:35 pm

don't it suck?

Post by **themadscientist** » Fri Jan 03, 2003 9:35 pm

wanna know how much motorex pays for a skyline or are you ready for suicide watch already?

Post by **SilviaLuvr** » Fri Jan 03, 2003 9:35 pm

OHH im not suicidle but i will bomb the hell out of something this is ridiculous i know the motorex is in the $100,000 or pretty damn close...i would just say f^ck it i'll just move to Japan but then i would have the worst car in the land well at least when it comes to thier tunned cars

Post by **s14sr20det** » Fri Jan 03, 2003 9:35 pm

Gayness

Post by **themadscientist** » Fri Jan 03, 2003 9:35 pm

well an R32 GT-R on the car lot with basic bolt-ons already on it goes for about $8000.00, Motorex probably pays half that .

Post by **lateralmotion** » Fri Jan 03, 2003 9:35 pm

yeah but when they get it it's not street legal. and they also had to dish out all the dough to crash several of those cars just to get numbers for the government so whiny *****es like you can have a skyline

Post by **lateralmotion** » Fri Jan 03, 2003 9:35 pm

and you people need to chill the fukk out when you are haggling daunttless about his prices. this guy knows what he's talking about and what you see on some foreign site doesn't mean s***. that picture could have been from five years ago, before everybody started smoking jdm instead of crack. do you know how much it costs to ship something from japan? i got a pair of side view mirrors shipped for 44 dollars. think about how much an entire engine and transmission in a big a$$ crate is. and it doesn't really matter how much he gets his engines for. if he only pays a dollar for a front clip, it doesn't matter because he is still charging less than what most people do.

Post by **JESTER** » Fri Jan 03, 2003 9:35 pm

Hey, you have to pay to play. Is $2200 a good price in my mind on an SR20DET, HELL YES! A price I am willing to pay.

It does suck because we didn't get these cars in the first place. But that is the American market buyers.

If I could set up a buisness selling widgets that I bought for a hundred dollars a piece and sold them for a thousand, I would do it in a heart beat. And there isn't a darn thing wrong with that as long as people are willing to pay the price. That is what buisness is all about. Making money. Of course it would suck if I had to pay shipping from over sees on my heavy a$$ widget, and import taxes.

Aint life grand.

Post by **HowdeeHo** » Fri Jan 03, 2003 9:35 pm

insert gun into mouth, pull trigger.Well i just found out my friends dad is going to Japan for a month, and he's gonna go looking for parts for me. Cause i know it don't cost no $1300 to ship an engine. I'll prob save about $450-500 if he can find a good SR20 for me.

me Xes fingers.

Post by **MaineExport** » Fri Jan 03, 2003 9:35 pm

I like widgets.

Post by **lucky** » Fri Jan 03, 2003 9:35 pm

WTF is up with that...hmmm....let's see, the businesses that import these engines to the states have employees. These employees have bills to pay. If they were GIVING the engines away for $1000 and only sold 10 engines in a month, they would profit about $3000. Divide that by 2 cause there is most likely going to be more than 1 employee and you have $1500 per person. Then come in taxes, paying for a place to store the engines, and shipping a container from japan probably isn't too cheap. If you still think that we are getting ripped off, then you are a cheap bastard.

Post by **lucky** » Fri Jan 03, 2003 9:35 pm

s14sr20det wrote:Why arent skylines and Silvias are legal here when they are legal everywhere else ?? ****ing ****s

Nice grammar...

Post by **Lsnaple** » Fri Jan 03, 2003 9:35 pm

to anybody whining about prices: why would anybody have a business if it makes no profit??? that's where the extra amount comes in. the manager has to get paid, employees have to get paid, and bills have to get paid for the store/shop.

Post by **implict** » Fri Jan 03, 2003 9:35 pm

750?!?!?!?!? :bowdown

Post by **s14sr20det** » Fri Jan 03, 2003 9:35 pm

lucky wrote:Nice grammar...

Do I care about my grammar here?? NO .. so stfu.

Post by **Zebrahead** » Fri Jan 03, 2003 9:35 pm

s14sr20det wrote:Do I care about my grammar here?? NO .. so stfu.

Ha. It does detract from your image though. We all got what you were tryin to say. Its all good.

Nick.

Post by **MaineExport** » Fri Jan 03, 2003 9:35 pm

Lsnaple wrote:to anybody whining about prices: why would anybody have a business if it makes no profit???

For the record, most businesses operate in the red for the first several years. They don't even start to break even for a long time.... let alone make any profit. The hope is that once all the bugs are worked out, and your reputation grows.... THEN you start to see the business develop and turn a profit. If everybody that lost money just closed up shop we'd be screwed.

The price for these engines has more to do with what the market will bear, than how much it costs to obtain, store, maintain, and sell. I am willing to bet that most importers get the engines for LESS than the $750 you mentioned. The fact is.... there is a LOT of overhead involved with getting them here, then developing the means to sell them. Competition will dictate what the consumer will pay. Also, people are willing to spend more for a product that inherently has peace of mind and "added-value". (As was illustrated by our recent Flash Options example... bargain bin engines don't always sell very well)

Post by **Lsnaple** » Fri Jan 03, 2003 9:35 pm

yea i know. what i meant was eventually start making a profit. its not like someone says '' hey! ill start a business to lose money.'' . of course some of them do, and then go out of business.thats just how the economy works.

i hope i cleared up what i meant.

Post by **ghost** » Fri Jan 03, 2003 9:35 pm

lsnaple: non-profit business. Crap, those don't exist. nevermind.

I'm going to Japan in July, i think I can hide an engine in my carry-on.

Post by **sultan** » Fri Jan 03, 2003 9:35 pm

ghost wrote:lsnaple: non-profit business. Crap, those don't exist. nevermind.

I'm going to Japan in July, i think I can hide an engine in my carry-on.

check shipping for it when you're there. you'll probably find that you won't save very much, as i don't think it will fit in carryon. maybe you can take it apart and put it in your checked luggage.

Post by **Daunttless** » Fri Jan 03, 2003 9:35 pm

I don't get 750 dollar junkyard or open air market motors, I buy cars. : (

Post by **574-240sx** » Fri Jan 03, 2003 9:35 pm

My friends brother lived on base in okinawa for 7 years. He said the Japanesse post office is expensive to ship anything. I don't know if this is true but, hes said it was aroung 3k to rent a shipping container and get it to the us.

Post by **bruinbear714** » Fri Jan 03, 2003 9:35 pm

When you see engines that cheap in Japan, its because people there don't have to pay for the paperwork, shipping, handling, and labor to BRING the engine to the US.

Shipping ALONE is a few hundred bucks. I'm sure there are some people in Japan saying "Damn those Americans can go to the junkyard and pick up a V8 engine for only a a couple hundred bucks when we have to pay a couple thousands!" Well, maybe not that exactly, but you get the point.

Post by **Koua Jones** » Fri Jan 03, 2003 9:35 pm

574-240sx wrote:My friends brother lived on base in okinawa for 7 years. He said the Japanesse post office is expensive to ship anything. I don't know if this is true but, hes said it was aroung 3k to rent a shipping container and get it to the us.

That is why they have APO.

Post by **Daunttless** » Fri Jan 03, 2003 9:35 pm

APO won't ship engines anymore though.

Post by **Koua Jones** » Fri Jan 03, 2003 9:35 pm

Daunttless wrote:APO won't ship engines anymore though.

I misread his post. I thought he was talking about car parts.

The shop my brother goes to quoted me between 150,000~200,000 YEN ($1,241.21-$1,654.94) depending on year/model. That's about 1000-1400 dollar increase over the price my local shop quoted me. I'm still waiting to hear about shipping though. I'll post what they quote me. They don't buy their engines directly from Japan either. They buy their engines from a distributor in California with a bunch of other shops (saves on shipping cost). Daunttless do you also buy from a distributor? Do you get your engines from mainland?

I'll probably spend more on the engine and save my money on parts just so I don't have worry about returning an engine back to Japan or wait for missing parts.

Post by **Daunttless** » Fri Jan 03, 2003 9:35 pm

I get my engines directly from Japan, I don't buy from a distributor. I don't deal with distributors because I don't like having to worry about what my distributor has in stock, or what kind of quality it is. I'd rather bank on my own high quality, and my own stock rather than someone elses. : ) I purchase running vehicles and strip them. : )

Post by **Koua Jones** » Fri Jan 03, 2003 9:35 pm

Cool, too bad your shop is in Iowa. You should crash 3 Silvias and make all of us Silvia nuts happy over here.

Yeah, I know its a little harder than that believe me I tried.

me :bash NHTSA

Post by **Daunttless** » Fri Jan 03, 2003 9:35 pm

I"ve thought about it, I might be doing some kit cars. : )

$2,500 for a $750 motor

$2,500 for a $750 motor

finally caught that did ya?

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