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Hello friends,

Does anyone have any ideas on getting the master key for a 1991 Q45 cut? If I remember it’s a magnesium key the is laser cut on the inside rather than a traditional cut key. I have one master key and bought another. I thought you could only gets these from Japan via the dealership. Any thoughts or suggestions?

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I have some blank masters and subs... even a wallet blank as well. My latest Q has all the factory keys so I never thought of the need to get them cut. But good question. I wonder if the dealers even still have the equipment to do this.... might have to be sent to Japan....

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I think other car lines still do that type of keys.
I need the oval key case, do you have one to sell?

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I replaced one of the master keys on the '95 about 11 years ago. I did it thru IoS, gave them the VIN, the key arrived properly cut, in a small manila envelope with the VIN handwritten on it.
I don't know if the dealer had the cutter, or if it was some other central US Nissan outfit that did it. I do not believe it went back to Japan for cutting.

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BCC93QT wrote:
Sat Aug 08, 2020 8:10 pm
I have some blank masters and subs... even a wallet blank as well. My latest Q has all the factory keys so I never thought of the need to get them cut. But good question. I wonder if the dealers even still have the equipment to do this.... might have to be sent to Japan....
I sold Infiniti's back in the 90’s and to my knowledge no dealer has a laser key cutting machine due to the high cost and very limited amounts of keys sold. We used to order them directly from Japan and they came cut. I’m not even sure Nissan Japan cuts them anymore.
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3Q Jay wrote:
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I replaced one of the master keys on the '95 about 11 years ago. I did it thru IoS, gave them the VIN, the key arrived properly cut, in a small manila envelope with the VIN handwritten on it.
I don't know if the dealer had the cutter, or if it was some other central US Nissan outfit that did it. I do not believe it went back to Japan for cutting.
Btw.... who is loS. And how do I contact them?

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sorry---code amongst the old-timers on this board.....Infiniti of Scottsdale. If you also read posts that mention "Joe", he was the parts manager there until about 2010 or so.

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Thanks for the explanation

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Jap Burd wrote:
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I think other car lines still do that type of keys.
I need the oval key case, do you have one to sell?
I have only one of what we called “the football” which is the black football shaped key holder. It held four keys inside and came in a red thick cotton draw string case. I have only one. Sorry

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My local locksmith can cut them. I believe these are called "wafer locks" - at least that's what I've heard.

I'd call a few and ask. There's an ebay seller selling the original blanks for $27.99 if you need one. https://www.ebay.com/itm/KEY00-00160-In ... 2175665786

I have no idea if the guy in this thread is still around. replacement-keys-t359937.html

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Jap Burd wrote:
Sun Aug 09, 2020 7:40 am
I think other car lines still do that type of keys.
I need the oval key case, do you have one to sell?
Dont think you will find one at this point. They may still have some new old stock. I think they were around 300$+ try amayama. I have 2 nissan president cases if you want one of those...

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Infinitiace1992 wrote:
Sun Aug 09, 2020 8:46 am
BCC93QT wrote:
Sat Aug 08, 2020 8:10 pm
I have some blank masters and subs... even a wallet blank as well. My latest Q has all the factory keys so I never thought of the need to get them cut. But good question. I wonder if the dealers even still have the equipment to do this.... might have to be sent to Japan....
I sold Infiniti's back in the 90’s and to my knowledge no dealer has a laser key cutting machine due to the high cost and very limited amounts of keys sold. We used to order them directly from Japan and they came cut. I’m not even sure Nissan Japan cuts them anymore.
I highly doubt Nissan Japan would not be able to cut one. The president sold until 2002 and would use the same type style of key...Would just cost plenty of time and effort....

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My local locksmith can cut them. I believe these are called "wafer locks" - at least that's what I've heard.

I'd call a few and ask. There's an ebay seller selling the original blanks for $27.99 if you need one. https://www.ebay.com/itm/KEY00-00160-In ... 2175665786

I have no idea if the guy in this thread is still around. replacement-keys-t359937.html
Thank you very much for the links and advice. I did order one over the weekend on eBay I’ll let you know what happens

Thanks again

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I just ordered an OEM key blank on eBay and ended up receiving two of them (lucky me!). When I worked in the service department of an Infiniti dealership back in '93-'94 the parts department had a key machine that was able to cut these keys, but whether any dealerships still have that machine is probably pretty doubtful at this point. A quick search of my area shows numerous locksmiths that claim to be able to duplicate high-security automotive keys, so I don't think it's going to be all that difficult to get it done.

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Ryantzer wrote:
Mon Aug 10, 2020 3:54 pm
I just ordered an OEM key blank on eBay and ended up receiving two of them (lucky me!). When I worked in the service department of an Infiniti dealership back in '93-'94 the parts department had a key machine that was able to cut these keys, but whether any dealerships still have that machine is probably pretty doubtful at this point. A quick search of my area shows numerous locksmiths that claim to be able to duplicate high-security automotive keys, so I don't think it's going to be all that difficult to get it done.
Good to know. Thanks Ryan. Did you attend Infiniti launch training in Scottsdale?

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That’s awesome Thanks for the info and the link

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Just some follow up on the keys. I order one from eBay ($29.99) and was shipped two original Infiniti Q45 keys in the original Nissan box. I contacted the place in Georgia and super nice guys but they charge $150.00 per key to cut but he gave me a break for two for $250.00. Still thinking that’s a lot I found a local locksmith that cut the two keys perfectly for $35 each. Check tour local locksmith if you ever want or need additional keys cut.

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I did the auto shows, a Reg Rep got me a key and fob, it did come from Cal, both were for free. I then ordered the vallet key from the dealership

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Jap Burd wrote:
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I did the auto shows, a Reg Rep got me a key and fob, it did come from Cal, both were for free. I then ordered the vallet key from the dealership
Do you remember Peter Tocco from the show circuit?

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Yes. Good friend.
I haven’t seen him in a year or so. With all the shows cancelled, I hope they are all ok.

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CASE ASSEMBLY, KEY
Genuine Nissan (9982060U00)

Amayama lists the key case for $137.82.
Surprisingly low. But unknown if they have stock.

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I have a 95 Q and in 98 I did find a key place in Houston and made 2 extras at $25 each. ??Star lock and key - just a tiny place ! No idea 22 yrs later if they still can do this.
He did tell me that making the key reminded him of doing Porsche keys - so maybe that is another avenue to try if needed
I doubt a dealer can rekey and reFob the whole system anymore due to lack of parts. When I asked 6 yrs ago I think the cost was $700-$1000, after my car was stolen.

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Thank you kindly for the reply. I ordered two keys and got them and also found a local locksmith that was able to cut them perfectly. I paid $35 each for the cut but was happy to pay that as the guy in Atlanta was going to charge me $300 plus shipping for two keys to be cut.

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Not much info, but here’s the envelopes from the 2 keys I ordered, both cam from cal, the fancy key was from a zone guy that helped me out, 2nd a local dealer ordered a valet key.
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As a reply to assist future readers of this topic:
I think there was a key or Fob code from back in the day.
However, I lost my code number many years ago. Perhaps a dealer can provide this.
Never found much use for the Valet key per se. That said, it was much smaller and lighter in weight than the main ignition key.
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The vallet won’t open the glove box or trunk rite? You can lock out the trunk switch in the glove box so the button on the arm rest doesn’t work.

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Jap Burd
I believe you are correct about the valet key not working in the glove box. Not sure about the trunk.
I don't think I have locked my glove box in 10 yrs. Never use a valet. Period. Yes, I think there is a trunk release switch on the left in the glove box.
I usually use the Fob to enter the trunk or use the trunk button ?by the driver arm rest?.
The old Q45 Fob is small, all plastic and very light in weight. Never Fobs tend to be heavier and larger, also with metal edges and a small emergency physical key inside. Since the old design was not broken, of course it had to be fixed !
That noted, the Q45 keys were way too large and too heavy. However, very easy to find in a Valet key box due to large size.

The poster should let us know who was able to cut the copy keys (Name, address, phone number, website) :)

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brx wrote:
Sat Oct 03, 2020 6:38 am
Jap Burd
I believe you are correct about the valet key not working in the glove box. Not sure about the trunk.
I don't think I have locked my glove box in 10 yrs. Never use a valet. Period. Yes, I think there is a trunk release switch on the left in the glove box.
I usually use the Fob to enter the trunk or use the trunk button ?by the driver arm rest?.
The old Q45 Fob is small, all plastic and very light in weight. Never Fobs tend to be heavier and larger, also with metal edges and a small emergency physical key inside. Since the old design was not broken, of course it had to be fixed !
That noted, the Q45 keys were way too large and too heavy. However, very easy to find in a Valet key box due to large size.

The poster should let us know who was able to cut the copy keys (Name, address, phone number, website) :)

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brx wrote:
Sat Oct 03, 2020 6:38 am
Jap Burd
I believe you are correct about the valet key not working in the glove box. Not sure about the trunk.
I don't think I have locked my glove box in 10 yrs. Never use a valet. Period. Yes, I think there is a trunk release switch on the left in the glove box.
I usually use the Fob to enter the trunk or use the trunk button ?by the driver arm rest?.
The old Q45 Fob is small, all plastic and very light in weight. Never Fobs tend to be heavier and larger, also with metal edges and a small emergency physical key inside. Since the old design was not broken, of course it had to be fixed !
That noted, the Q45 keys were way too large and too heavy. However, very easy to find in a Valet key box due to large size.

The poster should let us know who was able to cut the copy keys (Name, address, phone number, website) :)

From NOLA with love
1990-1993 Q45’s did not come with a remote key fob Keyless entry was a new feature of the refreshed 1994. 1990-1996 came with two sets of keys. 2 were master keys all metal with the Infiniti logo and crest which will operate all lock cylinders and ignition. The two smaller valet keys with the black coating would not unlock the glove box or the trunk The idea was to lock access to the trunk via the glove box switch, lock the glove box with the master key and give the smaller black key to the valet to open the door and start the car. Unless you’re the original owner I would not use the key code to have keys cut. The code could be wrong or perhaps the lock set was replaced. My suggestion would be find a local locksmith that has the ability to cut the laser cut keys. I live in Michigan and found a local locksmith to cut my keys using the original master key.

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There’s also a generic key most dealers give you, I was given only 1 factory key when I got the car in Scottsdale in 1997. He told me the dupe key would be a aftermarket one.


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