17x9, 17x10 offset help on s13

[boost_creep]

before i begin..i did search,and couldnt really find a good answer.

im looking into 5zigen fn's in 17x9 and 17x10 for my 92 coupe.no overfenders,but am willing to roll and pull if i have to.im on kyb's and sportlines now.but plan on going megan track coilovers soon.

my question is what offsets should i look into for the front and rear.front 17x9 are available in +15 and +35rear 17x10 are available in +12,+25 and +35.

also will these clear kyb's or should i wait till i do coils.any help is much appreciated.

[94_240sx]

my question is what offsets should i look into for the front and rear.front 17x9 are available in +15 and +35rear 17x10 are available in +12,+25 and +35.

Man, I know what you are going through. Here's my opinion.Front, get +35. +15 will stick out. You can fine tune +35 with spacers. Back, I would go with +25 or +35. You need rolling definitely and might need slight pulling. Listen to other people's opinion and make a decision. Good luck!!!

[boost_creep]

thanks alot man.i was thinking the same thing with the rears.i think +12 is too much.do oyu know if these wheels will clear struts?

anyone else with more info on this setup?

[adrianfromthecastle]

personally, I'd go with +15 for the 9" and +25 for the 10". If you think your saavy enough for a good pull and camber, you can fit a +12 with a 10" in the rears. I wouldnt go with any higher offset on the 9", it might rub up on the suspension. Not too sure about drop springs, but for sure with coilovers it will.

[boost_creep]

thanks adrian.thats another thing i wanted to mention.i dont wanna go crazy on the camber.i mean..it looks sweet,but i need this setup to be tire friendly.lol.

[gumby74]

Go with the +35 in the rear. I did a test fit, and with the +25 and a 255/40 17 tire I was getting more rubbing than I liked. I have my fenders rolled and also do not like running too much camber.Besides, you can always come out a little far easier than you can go in.

[94_240sx]

As far as clearance goes, it depends on what you have. I know Stance coilovers have better clearance than others cuz that's what I have.

[gumby74]

I'm running Tein's.Its tight, but even under full compression and extension, everything clears.And looks real nice and mean.God, I wish I had a V-8.

[adrianfromthecastle]

thanks adrian.thats another thing i wanted to mention.i dont wanna go crazy on the camber.i mean..it looks sweet,but i need this setup to be tire friendly.lol.

camber is relavant to how much of a pull youve made on your fenders.

If you want, you might be able to get away with a 10 +12 with like a 235/45 or 245/40

[boost_creep]

gumby:do you have these wheels, or a similar setup?can you post pics?

[nismofly]

depends on how wide of a tire you want to run in the rear

for the fronts definitely get the +15, you can run a wide range of tire sizes on that with a pull and different camber settings...the rear offset though depends on what you want to run on the front tire size wise

[boost_creep]

well,i was gunna base my tire size decision off of the fender pull.but i havent done it yet.if the rims surpass the body,with the flare,ill go with skinnies.but if its nice and flush,ill go with wider tires.i feel like a cat chasin his tail.lol.

[nismofly]

decide on your wheels and tires first, then do the pull

that way you can fit the pull to the wheel and tire size you decide on

how much power are you looking to have?

[gumby74]

The 17x10 was off a buddy's Mustang. He was going to move up to a 275 or so tire though. The closest I have is a 17x9.5 +20. I had 245/40 Dunlops on these. That particular wheel stuck out of the fender almost a full inch. I also did not want to go farther than a roll and am not a big fan of 7 inches of tire on 10 inches of wheel. So I ended up running about 2* of camber and 2" of fender gap. Only under harder than normal turns would the tire rub, and even then I was shy by 2mm worth of rolling I never got around to doing.I will probably put some tires on those wheels after the holidays though.Now for some #'s I just crunched.On the rear right now: 17x9 +27 with 245/40 tires. Very ideal fitment. The wheel is just a hair past the fender line. I still have a bit over 2" of free space to the inside.This equals 5.56" of back spacing. And 3.43" at the front. About 1/4 to 3/8" past fender line.The 17x10 +35 will yield 6.37" of back spacing and 3.62" to the front. This will put the wheel face around 1/2 to 3/4" sticking out. You will still be able to run a decent size tire (255/40 @ the most) with out more than a good fender roll. I am trying to use as much space inside the fender so the +35 is appropriate for my goals. A +40 would be better but unfortunately not an option.

[boost_creep]

thanks alot for that info gumby.that was very helpful.i dont want the wheel stickin out an inch or more past the rear fender.the +35 sounds good at about 1/2 to 3/4 past the fender.but now to match up the front.i cant do the +15 then,because the fronts would stick out more than the rear.not cool.so i guess i need the +35 in front to,with im think like a +10 spacer?what u guys think of this?also, will this clear kyb?

[94_240sx]

also, will this clear kyb?

I like your decision. That'll work. Get ready to buy 60mm Nismo studs. You should buy some cheap 5mm spacers and figure out how much space you needto clear strut and buy 15 or 20mm Ichiba spacers later.

[gumby74]

As far as the rear goes, I was running KYB AGX's on Intrax springs, and that was pretty close to being the same diameter (springwise) as the Teins in the back. Maybe 1/4" wider.Up front however, things get ugly. If you are running the same KYB struts, keep in mind the spring hat will sit over the tire. This will limit you to just about a 25" diameter tire. (225/45 r17 for example depending on offset is pretty damn close)The front fenders have a pretty aggresive slope to them, but they also end abruptly. I did not do too many measurements up front with the KYB's myself as I was content to run an 8" wheel. I have some #'s somewhere in a notepad, I will look around.I am guessing, based on what I can remember, a 17x9 wheel with a low +20's offset and a 235/40 tire will fit under the spring hat, clear the strut body, and allow you to run close to 0* camber without too much fender work. I do not suggest running too much camber up front as these tire wear faster than the rears to begin with, due to brake dive, weight transfer while turning, and the front end is generally just plain heavier than the rear.I need to re-spray my calipers, so while I have the tire off, I will do some measuring using the coilover body as a reference point. That should be pretty close to a strut body in size. These measurements will be approximations mind you, but it is far better than me just throwing out a size and saying it will fit.And lastly, make a cardboard template with the wheel sizes you are interested in. I made one that looked basically like a 17x9" letter E. The center line is the wheel hub, and the upper and lower lines would be the width of the wheel. With the center line cut off exactly down the half-way point (think 0 offset) and a small ruler, I was able to essentially visualize a 17x9 wheel in any + offset. Sorry for the incredibly long post.

[boost_creep]

you are my hero

[gumby74]

That cardboard template is on the wall next to my Snap On big a$$ screwdriver and 2lb. sledge. What I call "specialty" tools.One more tid bit of info. If you have never measured a wheel, know that it is almost a full inch taller and wider. Keep that in mind as you start playing with the template.(emphasis on the width)Also, most of my measurements are based on minimal mods to the chassis. So the front wheel wells still have the splash shields. Removing them will buy you a little more space for turning radius.

[yokota180sx]

15 and 12roll rear done

[roeinondubs]

ok i jus did this i mean just like yesterday i got 17x9 + 35 in the front, the rubbed so bad the rim couldnt spin!! i used 5 mm spacers and it helped but not enough so i was goin to ad 3mm spacers to the 5 but the guy a goodies speed shop said it wouldnt be best. so i got some 5/16 and every thing is fine! oh im going to run extended studs just for good measure. and i think mine are 18x9.5 +35 in the rear and it looks and fits great

[Cameron]

on the car in my sig its got +35 all the way around and its fine, but on my coupe i got 18x9 -1 and 18x9.5 -2 on stock fenders. so i mean you can make it work easily.. dont be afraid to try things, dont be afraid to buy something and make it fit. thats the main thing about fitment.

[roeinondubs]

but those dont look 9in wide on the red 240.

[nismofly]

theyre not, can tell just by looking theyre 8 +35, big difference between those and 9s

for the 9s you really shouldve gotten the +15 like nearly everybody in this thread said to do, theres no reason to get the +35 for a 240, and now youll just have to keep using spacers depending on the tire size you want, instead of a one time fender job when you get +15s

my guess is youve got a spring/shock combo atm, if you get coilovers youll need more spacers even for the same tire size

[gumby74]

17x9 +15 is the way.And 17x10 +35 for the rear. They will be equally flush front to rear, with minimal fender work and neg camber. Dependent on tire size.Damn this sucker is old.

[TheS13Guy]

Damn!!! Old thread but very good info!!!!!!!

[KOJIKI88]

ok i jus did this i mean just like yesterday i got 17x9 + 35 in the front, the rubbed so bad the rim couldnt spin!! i used 5 mm spacers and it helped but not enough so i was goin to ad 3mm spacers to the 5 but the guy a goodies speed shop said it wouldnt be best. so i got some 5/16 and every thing is fine! oh im going to run extended studs just for good measure. and i think mine are 18x9.5 +35 in the rear and it looks and fits great

Old thread but i wanted to know if you have coilovers with that setup or spring and strut combo?? I've been wanting to do the 17x9+35 all around but i dont have coilovers, so i wanted to see if it was still possible with the info you gave. Thanks

[nifares240]

don't mean to thread jack but I'm still a little confuse. I have 17x9 +20 and planning to use 245/40/17 tire. I am switching to coilovers. just want to know if they fit. I test fit the wheel/tire with shocks and spring kyb agx with sportlines and didn't like the fact that it stuck out about an inch. would I be able to flush with a little bit of camber? I know the last result would be a roll and pull.

[KOJIKI88]

Old thread but i wanted to know if you have coilovers with that setup or spring and strut combo?? I've been wanting to do the 17x9+35 all around but i dont have coilovers, so i wanted to see if it was still possible with the info you gave. Thanks

anyone??

[yokota180sx]

+15 +12dont be a pansy and do it