17x10.5 cobra R wheels, fitment concerns, and pic requests

[lonely_coupe]

Alright guys. I have searched pretty thorougly on this and haven't come up with any pics or info.

I am looking at getting some mustang cobra R replica wheels, which come in a staggered offset of 17x10.5 +27 rears, and 17x9 +something up front.

I really don't like a stagger (or that much of one anyways) because the difference in lip size from front to rear would be BALLER>totally weakass worthless garbage wheels. case in point:

BALLER!!!

not baller......

that said, I have found places that sell the wheels seperately, and I really would like to run the 10.5 +27 all around.

am I going to have much of a problem with this? I plan on getting 20mm front fenders, and I will have a big ol' stretch on the tires, but am I going to clear my coils or what?

any info, and any PICS especially of these wheels on an s13 would be special.

thanks guys.
Modified by lonely_coupe at 10:58 AM 5/19/2009

[S133P3R]

compare any 10.5 +27 and you should find an answer, this rim should have the same clearance as any other 10.5 +27... ???right??? any rear overs? or just a roll/pull?

[lonely_coupe]

i did search for just in general "10.5 +27" on both this forum and google and I got nothing. dont hate yo!! hahah.

for starters, I plan on just having front 20mm fenders, and rolling/pulling the s*** out of my rear untill i can affor the rears+some aero.

im not really worried about the rear fitment because I know I can make that work just fine, moreso the front. just don't want to be mexi-flush and/or be smacking my coils with my tire/god forbig the wheel itself.

anything you can tell me will really help me decide on this.

[simmode1]

I've seen 18x10.5+18 on stock s13 fenders. The guy was running some 235 tires, but they fit. Your wheels should fit fine. At most you'll need a 5mm spacer. I say go for it!

Edit: I saw that pic in the Zilvia wheel fitment thread. Plus, have you tried looking on Rimtuck.com? Post your setup there when you finish it, plz!
Modified by simmode1 at 11:24 AM 5/19/2009

[Chris28]

1 inch = 24 mm. 9 inch wide + 10 sit flush with some camber. 24/2 + 12/2 = 18. Your wheels will stick out 18 mm in the rear, and a bit more in the front. I'd say 20mm over's are a good choice.

Do this though. Buy the wheels, mount them, then see what needs to be done. You can still rock your old wheels while waiting for the over fenders to get in.

[Gabes13]

does 10.5 +27 even clear coils up front?

[lonely_coupe]

does 10.5 +27 even clear coils up front?

yes, this is my main concern. someone please tell.

as I said, i'm not afraid to try an agressive fitment, so I'm not exactly asking "can i haz these wheels and be JDM"?

I just need to know If they will actually FIT in the front, and pics of a similar setup would be very nice, or pics of these exact wheels even better.

[silviaS13lover]

depends on what coils you have. ive had alot of trouble with teins not clearing certian wheels, as to where the sustecs i have clear them just fine. i honestly think 10.5 is insane on the front.

[Gabes13]

yeah, idk.

I wanna say nobc i have about an inch of space u front and these wheels are about an inch and a half closer to coils.

maybe someone smarter can say.

[lonely_coupe]

what size are you running up front?

I have s***ty Ksport coils right now. (they came with the car, but they are literally brand new so i am trying to get their full lifespan out before I get anything nicer) if that helps give any input.

[SleepyHB]

i agreed with simmode you'll probably need at least 5mm spacer up front...

Don't know if anybody have these wheels but maybe search for Works they seem to have similar fitment...

[Gabes13]

9 +10, which is ~4.89" back space (or w/e coil to wheel clearance is called) with 2 fingers (~1") of clearance

your wheels are ~6.31" back space.

[199240sxCoupe]

I think those wheels would look good with less offset but clean wheels

[lonely_coupe]

so point being, I might have to run spacers to clear the coils up front? seems like I would need something closer to 10mm up front to clear that.... hmmmm...

and heres a similarly insane fitment i found

http://zilvia.net/f/1525088-post141.html

he is running 18x10 - something up front with 30mm fenders...

i dunno about this.... F**K why can't they just fit...

so essentially, if these wheels had a lower offset i would be ok with it... but I would be cutting it way too close for comfort up front without the use of some spaceage....

theres gotta be a way. I'm not about to spend 2+ gs on some wheels. I really wanna make this work.

[Dittoz7]

Wow No Pictures Yet?

Guess I'll Make This Thread Worth While.

[simmode1]

i agreed with simmode you'll probably need at least 5mm spacer up front...

... Other way around... I think at most a 5mm spacer.

OP, you're gonna have to get off your tail and search some more. I'm fairly confident your plan will work. But if you need more proof than just my say so... you'll find it somewhere in this thread...

http://zilvia.net/f/chat/12986....html

Look for a silver s13 coupe with Silvia front and stock fenders running silver Enkei RPF1's 18x10.5+18 all around...

I'm looking at the pic of it that I saved a long time ago right now. I would post it, but I can't access photobucket while I'm at work...

Edit: There's also a post in the "Maximum Wheel/Tire" thread that revealed 17x10+23 is the optimal wheel size for s13's with stock fenders.

It's ambitious, but it can and has been done...
Modified by simmode1 at 12:22 PM 5/19/2009

[swift240sx]

looks like were going to have to break out the good ol baseball bat huh dan? and has that guy given you money yet? or did you stumble upon a nice mound of cash?

[lonely_coupe]

wow, i had no idea that those green wheels were the mustang wheels!! never actually saw a side profile shot, maybe that's why.

but, I'm still not sure that he/red car also are running non stagger in 10.5 if so, then I'm sold.

thanks for the help so far gents, I just wanna make sure I can actually pull this off and still drive my damn car!!!

[musashin]

9 +22 is the maximum offset that will guaranteed clear coils up front. That comes out to 10.5 +3. Which means you'll need potentially up to a full inch spacer to fit up front. Rears will be no problem at all, Broadfield fit a 10.5 +40something in the rear with no issues.

[lonely_coupe]

I was afraid of that crap.... i guess my wheel search will continue. i don't think I can deal with such a huge stagger.

[Dittoz7]

Both Of The Cars I Posted Are Running Staggered.

Looks Good.

[Dittoz7]

Only Car I Know Running Mustang Rears Up Front.

But His Are The 10 Not The 10.5.

[240lookis]

dude with 20mm front fenders you can definitely fit 10.5 +3 and in the rear you may as well space out to like 10.5 +15

run 235/40 up front at 245/40 out back

at that point the stagger isnt much and you can definitely fit those sizes with camber and pull in back and the 20mm fenders up front

doo iiit

seattle love

[lonely_coupe]

huh? 10.5 + 3 up front? are you referring to the effective offset if I were to run a spacer?

I don't have a problem with the width, like I said, 20mm origin fenders will be going up front, and I will make them fit nicely.

I just don't wanna have to space them so much that I need to buy extended studs and go through even more hassle just to fit some poopy mustang wheels on my coupe. lol.

if you think I can pull it off, then I might still go for it.

the staggers up there look GOOD, yes, but they could look way more baller if the fronts werent so weaksauce.

[Dittoz7]

Agreed, But For An Awesome Priced And VERY Decent Fitting Wheels;Not Designed For Our Cars.

I Have No Complaints.

[simmode1]

9 +22 is the maximum offset that will guaranteed clear coils up front. That comes out to 10.5 +3. Which means you'll need potentially up to a full inch spacer to fit up front. Rears will be no problem at all, Broadfield fit a 10.5 +40something in the rear with no issues.

Dammitboy is running 17x9+25 P45R's up front with Megan coils, no problem

Post #2044 on page 69 of 154 of the Zilvia Wheels fitment thread...

18x10.5 +15 front and rear with a 3mm slip on spacer in the front235 40 18 tires-4 camber front, -1 camber rearadjusted a little positive castor in the frontstock fenderzzzzRubbed a little, not as crazy as I thought though. I see alot of setups on here that rub worse.Old pics, now running big spacers overs and rockin fresh black paint.

I thought he was running +18 offset, but it's actually +15 with 3mm spacer bringing the fronts to +12. With 17's, maybe you can get away with more conservative alignment settings. But with the right spacers (I'm guessing 10-15mm now...) they WILL fit. Now gimme a f*ckin cookie!
Modified by simmode1 at 5:11 AM 5/20/2009

[lonely_coupe]

damn, i only got to page 50 or so last night. hahah. I've seen that car before but was never into it enough to check his specs.

good to know! thanks a lot mate! a friendly NICO user FTMFW!

yeah, you're right, it's going to have to be a pretty hefty spacer.... so i might as well buy the same setup for the rear because i don't want the fronts to be wider than the rears. it's already silly enough that I will have to be running -4-5 camber in front and only -2-3 in the rears.

ah well.. I suppose I will deal with these trials and tribulations when I actually get all my parts in.....

[simmode1]

Glad I could help. Let us know how it works out!

[musashin]

You'll note I said will -guaranteed- clear the coils up front. Some wheels will clear some coils on some cars, it all depends from car to car when you reduce clearances to millimeters.

[simmode1]

Thanks for clarifying!