12 second sr motor help please

Post by **matt6669** » Sat Oct 09, 2004 1:49 pm

don't flame i was just trying to do a search to find some 12 second cars to look at their mod list but the search wouldn't let me because it doesn't like 12 second anything.

so heres my problem, right now i drive a wrx and last night i took my friends sti for a spin and all i can say is WOW!!!those cars are amazing, it handles like its on rails and is faster than anything.

i've seen some people posting high 12's with sti's STOCK soooo what im questing at doing is beating the crap outta my friend with my 240 so what will i need to do to get this far and whats it gonna cost me.

also im a newbie when it comes to suspension geometry and what works and what doesn't, how well can 240's be made to handle, this whole rwd thing is new to me so i just need a little directions

thanksMatt

Post by **Nismo_Freak** » Sun Oct 10, 2004 8:04 am

matt6669 wrote:don't flame i was just trying to do a search to find some 12 second cars to look at their mod list but the search wouldn't let me because it doesn't like 12 second anything.

so heres my problem, right now i drive a wrx and last night i took my friends sti for a spin and all i can say is WOW!!!those cars are amazing, it handles like its on rails and is faster than anything.

i've seen some people posting high 12's with sti's STOCK soooo what im questing at doing is beating the crap outta my friend with my 240 so what will i need to do to get this far and whats it gonna cost me.

also im a newbie when it comes to suspension geometry and what works and what doesn't, how well can 240's be made to handle, this whole rwd thing is new to me so i just need a little directions

thanksMatt

S13 SR20DETFMICIntake FilterFull 3" ExhaustZ32 MAF550's FP Big 28 @ 18 psiECU Re-tune

Run him from a roll and you will hose it. STi's and Subaru's for that matter have good times as a result of having AWD and the resulting ability to get out of the hole. A well running BPU T28 SR will trap about 109 - 112 which is well above a stock STi.

If you think an STi handles good, wait till you get some mods done to your 240. I drove an STi and it was a very nice car. Awesome acceleration, smooth as silk powerband, low end grunt (unlike the EJ20), but I wasn't too impressed by the handling performance of it as I'm spoiled by my 240. In terms of potential, I'm sure it has alot of potential but the much lighter 240 has even more potential than the STi.

Post by **matt6669** » Sun Oct 10, 2004 2:42 pm

Thanks for the awesome response. i think that was the vote of confidence that i needed to start this project, i sent you an im on aol hope you can give me some more advice

Post by **GTS4-R** » Sun Oct 10, 2004 11:21 pm

My buddy just ripped a 12.3 the other day with an SR stock T25 @ 14psi....just intake, exhaust, and FMIC in an S13 with LSD and BF Good Drag Radials

Post by **nissanrcer240** » Mon Oct 11, 2004 7:19 am

93Niss240 wrote:My buddy just ripped a 12.3 the other day with an SR stock T25 @ 14psi....just intake, exhaust, and FMIC in an S13 with LSD and BF Good Drag Radials

Really? Thats the best time Ive ever heard of with the stock t25

Post by **240dreams** » Mon Oct 11, 2004 10:48 am

Are u serious? What was his sixty foot? Im guessing 1.6's or so?

Post by **Doomed2Walk** » Mon Oct 11, 2004 12:08 pm

Dang, yeah my goal is to keep pace with the EVOs flying around here. Too bad they're all richer than me :[ All these WRXs started popping up about 4 months after they were available. Now there are a few EVOs and a guy I went to high school with has a 550+WHP EVO VIII that can't go under 11s because his ACT 6 puck unsprung clutch won't hold. Now he's getting a full carbon clutch. Ridiculous how much money parents will give their kids around here. I thought my parents were generous giving me around 10K for the car, minor repairs and helping me pay for the SR swap.

Post by **Nismo_Freak** » Mon Oct 11, 2004 12:29 pm

93Niss240 wrote:My buddy just ripped a 12.3 the other day with an SR stock T25 @ 14psi....just intake, exhaust, and FMIC in an S13 with LSD and BF Good Drag Radials

Vids of runs, pics of car and pic of cars turbo upclose or BS.

Post by **matt6669** » Mon Oct 11, 2004 2:15 pm

haha yeah i got some of those rich spoiled bishez around here as well.ohh well im happy i pay for everything it makes me feel more proud about my car.

nismo seems like i keep missing you on aol i will succeed one day lol

Post by **240Kuminachu** » Mon Oct 11, 2004 4:56 pm

yea, a 12.4 on a t28, with no computer, eh. Guys up here ran a 12.8 on the pee shooter, thats hard to believe

Post by **matt6669** » Mon Oct 11, 2004 5:06 pm

off topic ohhh baby!!!!

Post by **GTS4-R** » Mon Oct 11, 2004 6:10 pm

funny thing is his 60 foots were like 2.0 or 1.9 i think...... our dragway (back in NH) is at sea level and the temps have been pretty low lately so that helps.....but 12.3 is just fantastic

Post by **GTS4-R** » Mon Oct 11, 2004 6:13 pm

BS???

http://forums.240sxone.com/ind...=2698

Here check it out.....Duey's car is the maroon s13 coupe all polished up under the hood

Post by **mynismo** » Mon Oct 11, 2004 6:15 pm

that is pretty damn hard to believe. i've got all the bolt ons in the book and 14psi on the turbo, and i need an lsd and some real slicks to hope for a 12.8-12.9.

12.3 sounds ridiculously fast for the stock turbo. i second the question... pics/vids of car?

Post by **GTS4-R** » Mon Oct 11, 2004 6:18 pm

http://www.cardomain.com/memberpage/296453/1

and i know his sr is pretty much stock....he just finished the sawp this past spring/summer.....im the one that talked him into getting an sr20

goto his webpagehttp://www.cardomain.com/memberpage/296453/1

Post by **mynismo** » Mon Oct 11, 2004 6:19 pm

just read the link (guess we were posting at the same time).

yea, he was hitting 1.7's. that is NUTS. if he was launching that well, from this point on i consider him god.

Post by **GTS4-R** » Mon Oct 11, 2004 6:26 pm

well his 60 foots were 2.0-2.1 before the Kaaz LSD and drag radials......helps ALOT

Post by **redhanded** » Mon Oct 11, 2004 9:56 pm

the best time i could do with a red-top with stock ecu and stock t-25 was a 12.7 @ 106 mph, also my tach was not working lol.

pretty much you basic bolt ons and 14psi boost. my rear end is welded and i was running some slicks.

best 60ft was a 1.6.

keep in mind this is here in hawaii where the air is humid and the temps are in the upper 70's to low 80's at night.

street tires the best i could do was a 13.1 @ 108mph with a 2.0 60ft.

Post by **mynismo** » Tue Oct 12, 2004 2:11 am

ok, i decided im getting a kaaz lsd

which one does he have? 1.5?

Post by **GTS4-R** » Tue Oct 12, 2004 6:16 pm

not sure.....i have a KAAZ 2-way (think thats what he's runnin) brand new in the box for sale......it has all the gaskets and stuff needed for install in an OPEN DIFF s13/s14 (retails for $995)....its bolt in....also kaaz 80w90 gear oil too.....which is worth $45....im sellin the package for $850 plus ship

Post by **Movingviolation240** » Tue Oct 12, 2004 7:18 pm

We were pulling 12's all day long on the stock S13 redtop T25 on a full weight S13. It's just a matter of getting off the line clean and making the best of the 240rwhp you have.

Post by **Movingviolation240** » Tue Oct 12, 2004 7:22 pm

http://www.enjukuracing.com/enjukucar.htm

12.80 @ 109 stock T25 turbo

Post by **NIGHTfall_240sx** » Wed Oct 13, 2004 3:18 am

Movingviolation240 wrote:http://www.enjukuracing.com/enjukucar.htm

12.80 @ 109 stock T25 turbo

Quote »* Enjuku Racing T3/T04E Turbo Kit[/quote]their site..

Post by **Movingviolation240** » Wed Oct 13, 2004 4:09 am

yeah, they did 12.8 on the stock T25 then upgraded to go faster.

Post by **mynismo** » Wed Oct 13, 2004 5:08 am

the 12.8 was with pump gas, 14psi, stock t25, drag radials and lsd. with a kaaz 2way im sure they would have gone 12.3 too.

Post by **Nismo_Freak** » Wed Oct 13, 2004 11:52 am

mynismo wrote:the 12.8 was with pump gas, 14psi, stock t25, drag radials and lsd. with a kaaz 2way im sure they would have gone 12.3 too.

No, I guarantee you that 260rwhp engine has either cams, or some other internal modifications that they are unaware of. The turbocharger physically does not flow 20rwhp more airflow just by a fluke. There is something that doesn't add up about that motor.

No offense, but physics is physics.

I'm not doubting the time, or the fact that it was done on the stock T25... but I'm not too keen on the few mods listed. Unless that motor has been torn apart and verified there is little apart from a hunch that says it's stock.

Post by **mynismo** » Wed Oct 13, 2004 1:09 pm

i am starting to think that he really did it.

he did a 13.2@108 on street tires, open diff. i managed to get a [email protected], street tires open diff. i've got pullies on him (everyone knows those don't do anything), but he has a b&m shifter on my stock shifter. i've got one of those jspeed ebay b&m look-alikes coming in the mail, and im sure with it i can hit a 13.2. add in some drag radials, and its a 12.8. im surprised he went down .4 secs just with dr's, but i guess it could happen. if so damn, im getting dr's! the kazz can take off another .2 sec on the 60', which means roughly .5 sec down the track. 12.3.... there you have it.

i think the reason that noone thinks its been done is because rarely does anyone get a kaaz 2-way, because for the price you can basically have a brand new nice turbo.

this is puzzling but i think he's telling the truth...

Post by **Movingviolation240** » Wed Oct 13, 2004 1:34 pm

Trust me he did it. 12.8, I've seen one other car run faster on a stock turbo (12.3).

I've seen one 240 with a blacktop make 260hp but it was on a mustang dyno that was calibrated kinda weird. You all also have to remember that there are differences between a Mustang, Dynojet, or dynapack dyno.

Paul

Post by **mynismo** » Wed Oct 13, 2004 1:41 pm

i was talking about the guy who did the 12.3...

im 100% positive that enjuku did 12.8 with lsd and dr's, but i dont think any of us have heard anyone run as low as a 12.3 on stock t25. read my above post.

Post by **f150intally** » Wed Oct 13, 2004 3:13 pm

I believe its possible to run a 12.8. but a 109 mph trap speed is almost unbelievable on the stock turbo. everyone knows that as traction goes up trap speeds go down. i trapped 105.5, ran a 13.01, and cut a 1.70 60 ft.

a 12.3?? someone is smoking crack. there is no way you will go 12.3 on the stock t25. I generally don't believe people when they tell me they went 12s on the stock turbo. its not easy at all with the stock turbo, stock ecu, and stock cams.

as far as LSD, an LSD is an LSD in a straightline. I pulled a 1.448 60 ft time on my car with a factory vlsd. no need for expensive kaaz, nismo LSDs whatever it won't matter in a straight line. the factory VLSD is very well designed when it comes to drag racing as indicated my 60 ft times.
Modified by f150intally at 9:26 PM 10/13/2004

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