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Wraith 240
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i plan on running 10-11 in the quater with my KA-T when i get a new motor700rwhp-900rwhpwhat have u guys ran at the trackor think u will run


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Craving4Boost
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whats going to be your set up? the highest ka-t isnt even that high of HP yet.

Structure240sx
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400-500rwhp will get you 11-10's

based on your conclusion of that i doubt you will even have the car running with a turbo

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Wraith 240
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na well i want 2 be the first with that power and i kno how i can do itplus im going 2 be pushing more PSI then any other KA-T haswith the Darton Sleves and a hole lot morebut i will def be pushing that power and hopfully more some daybut i kno i can do that mutch power

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GEO
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Seriously, graduate highschool first then come in here and tell us about this fantasy engine

TOPSECRT88
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GEO, i was curious to know if you ever got your car to the track? Im asking because my turbo setup i will be doing in a few weeks is very similar to yours (using IAP kit, SAFC II, etc..). Lemme know. Thanks!

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You
Wraith 240 wrote:na well i want 2 be the first with that power and i kno how i can do itplus im going 2 be pushing more PSI then any other KA-T haswith the Darton Sleves and a hole lot morebut i will def be pushing that power and hopfully more some daybut i kno i can do that mutch power
Your Silly!

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GEO
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Nope, I am school.

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sunnys14
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Wraith 240 wrote:na well i want 2 be the first with that power and i kno how i can do itplus im going 2 be pushing more PSI then any other KA-T haswith the Darton Sleves and a hole lot morebut i will def be pushing that power and hopfully more some daybut i kno i can do that mutch power
first of all how much $$$ are u planning to dish out?

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S14tat
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hmmm sleeving a KA block. this isn't a honda buddy.

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AmoebAssassin
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LOL, have fun wasting your money sleeving a closed deck iron block!

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sunnys14
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HAH! kids these days...

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wow.. his car would fall apart if he hit 700whp.

Structure240sx
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i know i can, i know i can, i know i can

just gave that book back to my 3 year old sister

1WheelWonder
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He is planning to run a Motec systems exhaust, that's were the power is going to be made.

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superDorifto
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danger to manifold...... you gonna run a double shot of naws too?

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Jookmasta
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do realize that u first need to making 600rwhp first before u can attempt to hit 700rwhp..........so far, there's only a handful of KA's that have EVER made that power. and do realize that the money they have put in couldve probably bought them a brand new car instead. not saying that its not possible, but u should post up ur plans as right now it seems like a really big (cloud 9) idea.

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Chezedik
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The bigger question that no one has yet to answer is can the car handle that much power. We see that kind of power on boosted V8s and it warps SOLID FRAMES, how can a unibody not snap every spot weld in it? How about the drive-line, the same things that make that power usable (LSD, Slicks, Clutch) are going to be the death of your high torque driveline. I could go on and on. Are you ready to tackle these engineering problems? Have you had a car that was that fast? I have gone high 12 sec, and that is pretty fast. Sub-11s is scary fast. You couldn't drive it on the street, even if you wanted to. The car would be constitutionally incapable of being on the street, you couldn't drive it normally. A car like that is on or off, that's it! Maybe you should just read a little bit around here, and decide if you really need to go that fast. Most people find 250hp in an S13 to be really satisfying and controllable. Then you could say you spent 5K to turbo your RELIABLE ride, that you can enjoy more than just 11 sec at a time on the weekends (for 30K). Think about it.

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Structure240sx wrote:i know i can, i know i can, i know i can

just gave that book back to my 3 year old sister
LOL... Its "I Think I can, I Think I can, I think I can" Btw.. and you know that **** was on your summer reading list..

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Chezedik wrote:The bigger question that no one has yet to answer is can the car handle that much power. We see that kind of power on boosted V8s and it warps SOLID FRAMES, how can a unibody not snap every spot weld in it? How about the drive-line, the same things that make that power usable (LSD, Slicks, Clutch) are going to be the death of your high torque driveline. I could go on and on. Are you ready to tackle these engineering problems? Have you had a car that was that fast? I have gone high 12 sec, and that is pretty fast. Sub-11s is scary fast. You couldn't drive it on the street, even if you wanted to. The car would be constitutionally incapable of being on the street, you couldn't drive it normally. A car like that is on or off, that's it! Maybe you should just read a little bit around here, and decide if you really need to go that fast. Most people find 250hp in an S13 to be really satisfying and controllable. Then you could say you spent 5K to turbo your RELIABLE ride, that you can enjoy more than just 11 sec at a time on the weekends (for 30K). Think about it.
I will contest to this... Structure chime in.. You been driving around with 500+ RWHP as your daily driver... Right? Very Reliable, well...

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Chezedik
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I think I made my point, I wasn't saying it can't be done, but how likely is it? BTW, not to be a d!ck, but what happened to his car? It can become a dangerous amount of power to control for daily driving.

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S14tat
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its only 500whp when he want it to be. this is not like a super charged v8. hahah you can just turn down the knob on the boost controller and just low boost daily. his hp ranges from 380whp for just puting around to 535whp in full race tune.

his car got into an acident because him and a truck hit each other kinda head on at a intersection cause they both were make a turn at the same time. nothing to do with making too much power, just happen to be some kind of freak accident.

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Wraith 240
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well im going 2 find out if that motor can handel that mutch power i guessalso i plan on spend a hole lot of money thiz is going 2 be my drag car since i already have another 240sx that i drive all the time.and i dont kno if you guys have heard of Dartonbut they build some sick motorsim sending my motor 2 them and they are going 2 make sure that i can make that mutch powerand 700rwhp is not going 2 be my max thatz only going 2 be on mid boostand for the people that say i cant do it u prob will got get any sick power out of your car cuz u dont want 2 break something

well im done this site is for people that have times at the trackso if u have a time be free 2 state or post your slipthx

what IAP kit do u have i was going 2 get the the 1+ but me and my boy is haveing a comp 2 see who can make more power out of the KA-T

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Wraith 240 wrote:well im going 2 find out if that motor can handel that mutch power i guessalso i plan on spend a hole lot of money thiz is going 2 be my drag car since i already have another 240sx that i drive all the time.and i dont kno if you guys have heard of Dartonbut they build some sick motorsim sending my motor 2 them and they are going 2 make sure that i can make that mutch powerand 700rwhp is not going 2 be my max thatz only going 2 be on mid boostand for the people that say i cant do it u prob will got get any sick power out of your car cuz u dont want 2 break something

well im done this site is for people that have times at the trackso if u have a time be free 2 state or post your slipthx

what IAP kit do u have i was going 2 get the the 1+ but me and my boy is haveing a comp 2 see who can make more power out of the KA-T
First of all...how did you ever manage to pass high school speaking english like that? Second of all, a "hole" lot of money doesnt even begin to cover how expensive a 700HP KA will be. Think tens of thousands of dollars. You're 19, and using your mannerisms on this forum as a hint, you can't possibly be making enough money to finance this project, unless your parents are doing that for you. Third of all, if you're buying a 240sx for high-HP drags, I suggest you look for a dimensionally larger, heavier car that would be more up to the task of handling the torque a 700hp motor would generate. Just because you say "its your drag car" that doesnt automatically negate all the chassis fab you'll have to do to keep the car from ripping itself apart. You will need EXTENSIVE bracing, seam welding, etc. Your driveline will be entirely custom, as the stock diff, transmission, driveshaft, and axles are nowhere near suited for that kind of application. Again, this project, even if you were capable of completing it, would require more money than you have. Fourth, yes, we have heard of darton, and we're aware that their sleeves are used to "build sick motors." This highlights the fact that you just plain have not done any research on the matter. If you had, you'd know that the KA is a CLOSED DECK motor with an already appreciable sleeve thickness. You cannot sleve a closed deck block without completely cutting the sleve out of the block, as the sleeves are integrated into the block casting. Additionally, the quality of the nissan KA casting is excellent, and you will not gain anything from sleeving the motor, even if "ya boyz" at darton have a sleeve for the application. Fifth, 700hp at mid boost? What turbo do you plan on running that will both spool before a KAs redline and will flow enough CFM of air at "mid boost" to support 700hp? Exactly. Finally, lots of people on this forum make "MaDD sikkkk powah" with their cars. We are fully aware of what works and what doesnt, and what breaks and what doesnt. I think that's something that YOU have no concept of yet.

Anyway, good luck making 700hp on an IAP stage I kit, and I wish you "mutch" luck in the competition that "you and yo boy is haveing."

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There is no element of drifting at all? I know we were told that, but something tells me that when someone builds a 500 HP car, that sometimes they lack the restraint to keep from using it. I am not questioning his character, we all put the pedal a little further than we need to. Also, even 380HP could launch you into an unintentional drift. But I think everyone here is in agreement on the matter of this post.

1) Shoot for a lower goal, you will be happier, and you likely do not have the amount of disposable income it would take to make that kind of power.

2) Even if you did, you would likely be slower than your lower horse'd friend, not faster. This is because of broken parts, and of course the loss of traction from making that kind of power in such a light car.

3) Darton sleeves would be a waste of time, money and sanity. As we are talking about a motor that doesn't use the sleeves you may be acustomed to in Hondas you may have worked on, or read about. They simply would be unnecessary. If you made the kind of power it would take to move a cylinder bore/crack a bore in this motor, well then maybe that is a sign to move on. I don't see it happening.

4) You will likely avoid any jokes about the way you write, by speaking English. We are patient people in many regards, but many of us do not have the patience to try to translate street, and would rather make jokes. Proper (or at least decent) English will take you a long way, not only on NICO, but in your daily endevours as well.

I hope that your frustration from this post will lead you down a positive road. If you are insistant still to pursue this project, well the best of luck. However, I speak not only for my self, you will very likely be lead down a road of disappointment that will take away your time and money.

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nismofly
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ive always wondered why people type like that

god knows it takes a lot less time to type like a regular person than a ****tard

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Jookmasta
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well i wont comment on ur source of funds or if u have the wallet to afford this. i will say that if ur already deciding on using the IAP kit stage 1+, u obviously have not done ur research. IAP is a great company but their stage 1+ kit will not get u anywhere near ur power goals. its possible for u to have a very quick car but dont expect 700rwhp from it. i wont tell u to search but whatever car u are most familiar with, go research how that car is able to make 700rwhp.......honda or whatever it may be, just see what work was entailed, what parts were used, and of course what parts failed.

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obvisouly you never read my thread where i talked about my accident. i was at a stop interestiong making a left turn and was hit by a truck passing another truck i could not see.

handling power is not a problem.

partial drift?

i honestly drive my car around like a grandmom most of the time except when im racing. this was an accident that would have happen to anyone.

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S14tat
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the only way to make our KA block any stronger is what the supra guys are doing to their 1000+whp race blocks is by re enforcing it with cement. this elimates the water jackets so its strictly a race application.

that is what i remember ivan or someone else who works on mega hp supras said.

also chezedik, i dont know if this applies to anyone else, but i know that as my car got faster and faster, i beat on it less and less. i guess its because theres almost no place to floor it where i won't get pulled over, etc etc. you just learn to respect the car more as it makes more power. also anthony doesn't have a T3/T4 turbo, its a straight T4 so he would have to give it atleast 30% throttle for it to make any meaningful boost so if he beats on it, he would have to kinda want to beat on it.

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Why would you guys even wast the time on this one?

As for the English, I am a horrible speller so I'm nobody to talk. But, I sure wish people would at least attempt some punctuation and for crying out loud,

ALWAYS CAPATALIZE THE WORD "I" !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



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