APEXi240 wrote:Why? Jesse does it...
1/4 mile time in a s14 with stock s14 sr20det swap?
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Hey,your looking to spend around i'd say $5000 for a 95 s14 depending on location and the avalibility of them. Then your right about the cost. $3200ish on the motor, plus shipping costs. Then about $700-1000 on install. ON a s14 with s14 sr motor, you won't be able to beat a ITR integra in the quarter mile. People call these cars drift cars, blah blah blah. You can use them for Drag or Road courses. I say if You get the car. Do some suspension and go to some Road courses. =) This is where the car shines. Handling. Not too many honda's in my commmunity are built for handling. They got an ego about doing the straight line. Anyways. Have fun w/ the project and keep posting.
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SeVa-S13 wrote:Wow, there's an original idea, going from a Honda to a 240 and immediately wanting to do that uber ph4t, JDM tyte sr20 swap, y0. Not really Honda-hating but maybe, I don't know, do some research for yourself and explore other options instead of doing what SCC Magazine tells you is cool?Good luck either way...and did you not have insurance?
Who said anything about SCC magazine? Im doing the swap because I want to and because I want a turbo car to work on not because its 'jdm yo'.....i do have insurance..thats how am financing the swap
P.S. I am not new to the forum board thing...just this one so i know what people mean when they say sarcastic stuff....but they were just hatin for no reason.
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aznromeox wrote:. ON a s14 with s14 sr motor, you won't be able to beat a ITR integra in the quarter mile. .
WTF...how can that be. ITR's have what, like 190hp and have a curb weight about the same as a 240, and with the sr20 swap will have 217hp and have the advantage of RWD....that doesnt make sense...color me confused.
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Phax wrote:Travis,
Use the Search button. It's in the upper right hand corner of the screen. I bet that once I get done with this reply, I'm still going to be able to read the "SR20's, Post your track times!@#!" thread that has been going for about a month.
I agree with the rest of the guys. Get another Honda. You want a turbo motor to play with? Slap a turbo on a B18C.
I did a search on here for 1/4 mile times with everything stock on a s14 with the s14 sr20 swap and couldnt find anything, thats why i posted the question, and i still havent got an answer. I found lots of answers for the 1/4 mile question with mods done...but i want to know with it completely stock...or maybe just intake and exhaust what 1/4 mile times are people running.
Honda's are the #1 stolen car now...at least here in houston...thats one reason why i dont want to get another one....and maybe i was getting sick of hondas and wanted to work on something else.
dont worry travis i got respect for honda people. I have a friend that can burn wrx, sr 240sx, and turboed mr2s on a track like its his daily job in his little NA civic.
anyways. I am guess at stock boost u can do low 14s with the set up ur talkin about. Dont mind what other people are saying. Theres an over abundance of bashers on this forum that bashes just about any thread. I did my swap right after i got my 240sx. who cares what other people say.
anyways. I am guess at stock boost u can do low 14s with the set up ur talkin about. Dont mind what other people are saying. Theres an over abundance of bashers on this forum that bashes just about any thread. I did my swap right after i got my 240sx. who cares what other people say.
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Vengeance wrote:JESUS CHRIST, what honda can beat an SR 20 240sx thats N / A? a S2000?
Twin turbo H22 hatchback converted to AWD on a 200 shot? :pface
Naw theres some fast hondas around here....this dude cary down here has a LS turbo in a hatch....heres a video of him racing a 10 second viper http://www.cheesefrog.com/frog/cheezevsal.mpg
granted most civics arent this fast...but u see my point....doesnt matter anyway, i dont drive one anymore...its probably in mexico now
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Travis_NissanN00b wrote:I did a search on here for 1/4 mile times with everything stock on a s14 with the s14 sr20 swap and couldnt find anything, thats why i posted the question, and i still havent got an answer. I found lots of answers for the 1/4 mile question with mods done...but i want to know with it completely stock...or maybe just intake and exhaust what 1/4 mile times are people running.
You seem to take abuse pretty well. =) Wander over to the SR > RWD forum. There is a thread there on 1/4 times. You probably won't find any truly stock SR20DETs around here. Most of the people who do the swap also purchase a bunch of upgrades at the same time. My swap is the closest to stock that I've seen. I sitll have the stock exhaust from the cat back. I'm getting my fuel pump installed next week, and then I'm gonna head out to the track. My car will be mostly stock, but running 10psi instead of 7psi.
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My answer didn't help?Travis_NissanN00b wrote:thats why i posted the question, and i still havent got an answer.
Regardless, stock it'll run mid 14s, with some standard upgrades it'll get into the 13s. Good luck with your swap and sorry about some of the immature people here, I assure you we're not all like that
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welcome to the board! Like rockenreno just mentioned, mid 14s and lots of room to grow!
it prolly lost because RWD setups generally have more drivetrain loss, even though it is usually veeery negligable. Remember, transmission loss AND differential loss.
Dont be offended by any of the many honda comments you will get here and other board. Just think of it as a reminder to you that there are very narrow minded people in the world of car modding. Of course give a bit of slack to those who are just playing around though! =) Always give em the benifit of the doubt.
Good luck finding an s14!!! Keep in mind the stock KA can do wonders with a small amount of boost too! Do a search on the SR vs. KA convos and you will find a wealth of information.
keep us posted!!! =)
it prolly lost because RWD setups generally have more drivetrain loss, even though it is usually veeery negligable. Remember, transmission loss AND differential loss.
Dont be offended by any of the many honda comments you will get here and other board. Just think of it as a reminder to you that there are very narrow minded people in the world of car modding. Of course give a bit of slack to those who are just playing around though! =) Always give em the benifit of the doubt.
Good luck finding an s14!!! Keep in mind the stock KA can do wonders with a small amount of boost too! Do a search on the SR vs. KA convos and you will find a wealth of information.
keep us posted!!! =)
Travis, I too was in the same situation.
StoryMy Integra GSR got stolen in July (that was my 2nd one, first one was also stolen early 2002). I knew there were a lot of "hot" GSR motor swaps going on, so I decided, let all these a-holes stick to their Honda's and I'll get something else this time.
Before this, I had a friend who had a Nissan that was teaching me about them (before the magazines started whoring). If you noticed, I only have a few posts. That's because I always research, and most of the time, I find what I'm looking for and no need to post. I acquired quite some knowledge and grew a fascination over 240's.
So, without a doubt, this gave me more reason to make the switch. Instead of just finding another Honda (Acura, same thing), I looked for the 97/98 style that I liked so much. I finally got the beauty I have now about a few weeks ago:D
Anyway, to answer your question with my opinion: Considering you can safely raise the boost to approx. 15 lbs on a s14 sr20det (http://www.srswap.com), you could produce approx. 250 RWHP. With this in mind, and also depending on your driving skills, you can be between low 13's and low 14's (did a search for "quarter mile calculator" in google and this is how I came up with my "educated guess" lol). Can you imagine with some other mods?
See? Research pays off. LOL. Try that method for yourself and good luck with your 240 search :thumbup
StoryMy Integra GSR got stolen in July (that was my 2nd one, first one was also stolen early 2002). I knew there were a lot of "hot" GSR motor swaps going on, so I decided, let all these a-holes stick to their Honda's and I'll get something else this time.
Before this, I had a friend who had a Nissan that was teaching me about them (before the magazines started whoring). If you noticed, I only have a few posts. That's because I always research, and most of the time, I find what I'm looking for and no need to post. I acquired quite some knowledge and grew a fascination over 240's.
So, without a doubt, this gave me more reason to make the switch. Instead of just finding another Honda (Acura, same thing), I looked for the 97/98 style that I liked so much. I finally got the beauty I have now about a few weeks ago:D
Anyway, to answer your question with my opinion: Considering you can safely raise the boost to approx. 15 lbs on a s14 sr20det (http://www.srswap.com), you could produce approx. 250 RWHP. With this in mind, and also depending on your driving skills, you can be between low 13's and low 14's (did a search for "quarter mile calculator" in google and this is how I came up with my "educated guess" lol). Can you imagine with some other mods?
See? Research pays off. LOL. Try that method for yourself and good luck with your 240 search :thumbup
Welcome to the board. I too came from a Honda world to the Nissan world by means of totalling my civic (not my fault)
But I had a 92 240 hatch while I had my civic and this was way before the magazines went crazy over the car.
I totalled my civic then I sold my 92 240 hatch and bought a 90 coupe and dropped a CA in to it.
With my CA at stock boost, stock downpipe, 3" test pipe, 3" cat back, KN air filter and a Mines chipped ECU I spanked on Integra Type R's. And this is with a (stock figure) 175 hp. I figured I was putting that down to the wheels with my mods. With the boost at 15 psi, a hatch with a type r motor couldnt touch me.
My friend has an all stock SR swap in his S13 coupe. I know that doesnt help you much since you want a S14. But were taking it to the track to see what it does so that way you can get a rough estimate.
His swap is 100% stock everything. But he cant drive the car very well so guess ill have to pilot it down the track.
Welcome to the Nissan world, enjoy the ride
But I had a 92 240 hatch while I had my civic and this was way before the magazines went crazy over the car.
I totalled my civic then I sold my 92 240 hatch and bought a 90 coupe and dropped a CA in to it.
With my CA at stock boost, stock downpipe, 3" test pipe, 3" cat back, KN air filter and a Mines chipped ECU I spanked on Integra Type R's. And this is with a (stock figure) 175 hp. I figured I was putting that down to the wheels with my mods. With the boost at 15 psi, a hatch with a type r motor couldnt touch me.
My friend has an all stock SR swap in his S13 coupe. I know that doesnt help you much since you want a S14. But were taking it to the track to see what it does so that way you can get a rough estimate.
His swap is 100% stock everything. But he cant drive the car very well so guess ill have to pilot it down the track.
Welcome to the Nissan world, enjoy the ride
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I'm not going to get into a Nissan vs honda debate. Both are awesome cars, I just wanted to clear up a little misinformation regarding 1/4mi times with ITR's.
A BONE STOCK Type-R generally traps around 96mph with good conditions and driver. That is good for solid mid 14's with a good driver, and is the average time from most ITR owners I know. Heck my very fist time drag racing I pulled a 14.7 with my stock R in 80 degree weather and extremely high humidity.
With excellent drivers and a little luck there are many stock R's dipping into the low 14's.
My R was considered a freak at one time, but it mainly comes from driving experience. I pulled a 14.0@99mph with only an AEM CAI intake and unhooked exhaust.
My [email protected] was done with nothing more than an intake and a JDM DC 2.5" header on true street tires (not drag radials) and stock weight. It is all about the launch. You must launch them high and control traction with the clutch and gas. I've pulled 2.0 60' times on true street tires and MANY 2.1's just for information. This is the key to an ITR's success in producing a good ET. It's tricky to do, but if you nail it the R has the trap speed to produce very surprising ET's.
I'm very well known on H-T, and even by a few members on this board that know of my car and how stock it is. You guys can also check out http://www.honda-tech.com. It's very tech oriented in the Type-R forum. You guys can see that there are many ITR's dipping into the high 13's with only bolt-ons.
I'm not saying what car is faster or better. Just stating what an ITR with a good driver can do. Not some newb that launches low and bogs the car off the line.
A BONE STOCK Type-R generally traps around 96mph with good conditions and driver. That is good for solid mid 14's with a good driver, and is the average time from most ITR owners I know. Heck my very fist time drag racing I pulled a 14.7 with my stock R in 80 degree weather and extremely high humidity.
With excellent drivers and a little luck there are many stock R's dipping into the low 14's.
My R was considered a freak at one time, but it mainly comes from driving experience. I pulled a 14.0@99mph with only an AEM CAI intake and unhooked exhaust.
My [email protected] was done with nothing more than an intake and a JDM DC 2.5" header on true street tires (not drag radials) and stock weight. It is all about the launch. You must launch them high and control traction with the clutch and gas. I've pulled 2.0 60' times on true street tires and MANY 2.1's just for information. This is the key to an ITR's success in producing a good ET. It's tricky to do, but if you nail it the R has the trap speed to produce very surprising ET's.
I'm very well known on H-T, and even by a few members on this board that know of my car and how stock it is. You guys can also check out http://www.honda-tech.com. It's very tech oriented in the Type-R forum. You guys can see that there are many ITR's dipping into the high 13's with only bolt-ons.
I'm not saying what car is faster or better. Just stating what an ITR with a good driver can do. Not some newb that launches low and bogs the car off the line.
First of all Travis I want to welcome you to the Nissan Family-aasuming you will buy a 240sx in the near future. What I don't understand is you buying a Nissan to Drag race. I'm sorry to dissapoint you travis when I say that drag racing is a type of racing that involves no skillage in regards to drivng skills besides the speed of your hand, feet and obviously car. If you want to drag stick with hondas because they are cheaper to modify and to maintain. Nissan 240sxs are cornering machines with great balance and are more commonly used to Drift. If you've ever seen any drift videos or even the Anime "Initial D" you would know how drifting works and how great it feels when you actually pull of your first Drift. Getting back to the subject, it will cost you twice as much to make a Nissan go fast rather than a honda. But if you want something no one else has and looks twice as good and handles twice as much better than any common honda get a 240sx. FF sucks balls, FR rules.