08g35xs>09g37xs

[xacura]

hi all, first post here.

new 2008 g35xs sedan or 2009 g37xs sedan.

g35 is $32,700. g37 is $42,435.

is the g37 worth that much of a price difference? i usually drive below the speed limit if that is a deciding factor. even so, road and track found the g35 to be slightly faster. that does not matter to me at all however. so we don't have to debate it. neither does 1 more mpg or variable heated seats.

what else do i get for nearly 10 grand, besides a higher payment?if there is a reason to i will get the g37....... please do tell! i want to buy in the next couple of days.

thank you

[tollboothwilley]

If those are the lowest you can get them down then I would go for the g35xs

i don't think the 2009 updates are worth $10K

but the G37xs would be sick

[xacura]

regardless of prices.....what makes the g37xs better than the g35xs?

if there is something really better about it i'll get it. no one will budge off sticker on the 37. the 35 anyone will give away. there has got to be a reason?

thanks

[SVTCOBRA]

I would go with the G35 DEAL!!! I haven't seen/heard anything that would justify the extra $10K in my mind!

Why are they making deals on the G35s?? I've heard that Infiniti is holding back the G37s til the dealers move the G35's.Also, when I bought my new 05 G35 sedan in Jan. 06, I got it for $7K off the sticker. And, there really wasn't much diff. in the 05 and 06. They always make deals to get the leftovers off the lot. Best time to buy!!

[G37 Man]

Taking everything into consideration the best reason would be when it comes time to sell,you will have a car 1 year newer which could give you some extra $$$,again assuming mileage and wear and tear are in the same area.

[SVTCOBRA]

^This is true, but you will also have more $$$ tied up in the G37.Plus, if they start making deals on the G37's once they hit the lot in force, the value of your G37 will go down quickly by the amount they are dropping the prices. You will have more money tied up in the G37 than what it's worth in the market. just my .02

[zozoka1212]

Welcome to nico,

I had an 07 and bought an 08 before the 09 came out. I was thinking about to wait and get the 09. The reason I've got the 08 because there was a huge saving with the 08 what you not getting with the 09. I would think the 42 can get lower bu again it depends how badly they want to sell. I figured I saved around 6k. I testdrove one of the 09 and to me it does not feel any different. Pros: adjustable seat heater, more hp, more gears. Selfhealing paint.Cons: more weight and higher price.

To me the more weight would kill the advatage of the more hp. More gear I thought it would have some affect on shifting. Thought it will hunt gears. After testdrive I did not feel it. That's good. I would hate to see Infiniti screw up.

Only thing I would be happy to have from the 09 is the selfhealing paint. But again that could be a PITA to find a reputable shop for repair if needed. I guess it would be pricier to repair too. This is just my guess tho.

Overall I am happy I went with the 08. There is not enough changes to justify the higher pricetag.

Hope this helps.

zozo

[xacura]

you guys are thinking exactly the same as i am! i am going to go crazy and make a final offer of $32,100! if that happens i buy today.

the extra gears and extra .2 liters make extra weight, which makes up for any performance difference every where i have read. i know some people will disagree i am not trying to flame. i am looking for the better deal not the ultimate last ounce of performance. i have also read of engine and transmission problems and hunting gears already. don't remember where though, sorry. infiniti's always have a slew of tsb's and the g35 seems to be done with that. the jury is out on the 3.7 and seven speed. the adjustable heaters seems more of a novelty to me. as long as it is hot thats all that matters to me. it gets freezing here and thats when i use them. the self healing paint also sounds like more trouble. i can imagine working with touch up paint.

i think this car is only worth paying full price if you go all out and get the 6mt rwd. it's worth it for the speed,suspension and brakes. none of that matters to me and is not available on the g35xs anyways.

anyhow even if each one of these things was slightly better it is not worth what will happen when it comes time to trade. g35's are holding their value used. always have.

the g37 may be worth more because it is a more expensive car but i will also lose more if i pay anywhere near sticker. let's say i be a hard a** and get them down $1,500. won't happen, and if it does big deal. the car will come down in a few mnths than when i trade i lose big time! buying a $43,000 car for $32,xxx is the better "investment". i am almost sure that when it comes time to trade i will not lose nearly as bad as with the g37.i only keep cars 1-2 years. i can wait a year to trade up to the g37, which will then have come down in price. or they may introduce a new car alltogether.

thanks guys, you helped me make my decision!

[zozoka1212]

LOL don't go nuts over it. LOL

I would seriously get the 08. About the heated seats. Some people say it is not hot enough for them and starts slower. Before you buy it check the heated seats. Personaly I have no problem with it so I can't say any bad things.

I read about the gear hunting also. Personaly I did not experienced it on the test drive. But Infiniti have the ECU and the transmission learns from your driving habit. So nobody really knows it till somebody ownes one and try it for a few days.

zozo

[LuckyLuke]

Buy G35.. and put your 10K in stock market. you will gain in 5 years, and pay off the rest of your car.

[psicho]

I am also in the market, but I am electing to wait until the end of the limited engagement winter event to act on an '09. I don't think there is any way a dealer will give its sales staff the green light on incentives for an '09 during the winter event where they are supposed to be liquidating all the '08s. I have visited a few dealers locally, and they are just now getting a very few '09s in stock. The general policy is that the dealers will not budge far from MSRP on the '09s due to the oversupply of '08s, but they are happy to source an '09 for you from the region. I believe this policy will change on January 6, the day after the winter event ceases, and deals on '09s will be abundant. I am banking on this for three reasons: a) the economy is in the sh!tter, causing a decline in sales of consumer goods, b) the first quarter of each year is typically the slowest period of the year for car sales, and c) a customer with cash wil be treated favorably in this market since sources for financing are minimal. I'll let you know how this goes in the next week or two, but I will say there is no way in hell I am paying anything close sticker in this market, even on the '09.

[SVTCOBRA]

^ I agree with you psicho, but is there a reason you are opting for a 2009 over a heavily discounted 2008? Are you wanting an XS? just curious.

[Jacko3]

Psicho:

Your buying strategy will cause more deflation in the economy.

Help the economy to survive.

[psicho]

^ I agree with you psicho, but is there a reason you are opting for a 2009 over a heavily discounted 2008? Are you wanting an XS? just curious.

Not waiting on an XS, but there are reasons I want to wait on the '09. I'm huge into performance, and the stroked 3.7L gives a broad torque benefit across the rev range versus the 3.5L (see the dyno comparo on the main page). This TQ and HP benefit from this upgrade is worth one or two thousand to me, as the parts and labor for a stroker kit or oversized pistons would be double as much and not have the benefit of a factory warranty. The extra two gears is also worth a great deal to me, as I am getting the sport package with manumatic paddle shifters and I love the flexibility the new transmission offers. I also was not happy with the upshifts on the 5-speed manumatic, especially the 1-2 shift. The extra MPG is an additional bonus from the 7-speed transmission. And I am very impressed with the big breaks on the '09 sport. Again, this upgrade is worth probably $500 to me. I don't really give a rats *** about the paint, but it sounds cool regardless. Further, the '08 is not worth MSRP now, since it is already halfway through what should be the '09 model year (consequently, most of the dealer incentives on the '08s aren't so much of a "discount" as they are a market adjustment). Finally, I'm banking on big deals being offered on the '09 in the new year once all the '08s are cleared out of inventory. Car makers are, after all, in the business of selling cars, and deals will be made in this economy.

Others will say the weight difference negates the extra power of the '09, but "adding lightness" is an easy and inexpensive mod.


Modified by psicho at 9:42 PM 12/27/2008

[xacura]

psicho, do you plan on getting $10,000+ off msrp on the '09?

i'd be surprised if they give you $2,500 at the point you mention.

if there is something in the '09(which you addressed) that you really want then it is woth paying more for it.

to me there is no difference i would notice.

i am wondering what you expect to get off msrp on the '09 though?

[SVTCOBRA]

Understood.I will be surprised if there are any big deals made with the 09's in 09I wouldn't be surprised if there are some even better deals on the 08's in the next couple of months.Good luck!!

[psicho]

psicho, do you plan on getting $10,000+ off msrp on the '09?

i'd be surprised if they give you $2,500 at the point you mention.

if there is something in the '09(which you addressed) that you really want then it is woth paying more for it.

to me there is no difference i would notice.

i am wondering what you expect to get off msrp on the '09 though?

No, I don't expect to get anywhere near $10,000 off sticker--probably more like a third of that. But at this point my experience is similar to yours in that dealers really aren't willing to work with you on an '09. I can't exactly blame them, though. Infiniti is looking to liquidate a surplus of '08s through a dedicated effort in the limited engagement winter event... an event that ends on January 5, 2009.

[pfarmer]

hi all, first post here.

new 2008 g35xs sedan or 2009 g37xs sedan.

g35 is $32,700. g37 is $42,435.

is the g37 worth that much of a price difference? i usually drive below the speed limit if that is a deciding factor. even so, road and track found the g35 to be slightly faster. that does not matter to me at all however. so we don't have to debate it. neither does 1 more mpg or variable heated seats.

what else do i get for nearly 10 grand, besides a higher payment?if there is a reason to i will get the g37....... please do tell! i want to buy in the next couple of days.

thank you

I have an 08 xs sedan with the hard to get on the xs technology package. I am satisfied with the machine with the exception of the poor paint. I would consider the self healing paint a major plus. I find the heated seats on the 08 as too hot in the high mode, too cold in the low mode, the ambient temperature being 20-30 f as of late. So just maybe the new heaters would be nice.

The better brakes would also now come into play. The brakes on mine are not bad, in fact very good however I would think the better ones on the 09 would be another major upgrade. The engine and transmission combo would not be that great of a deal depending on the how well the 7 speed shifts compared to the 5. Again, not really disappointed with the 5 so much as I think it could be a little smoother in some areas such as downshifts in snowy weather. It tends to pick some odd times such as slowing for a turn onto a side road causes it to downshift at the same time, right in the corner.

At a $10 grand difference I would go with the 08, however come closer to a 6 grand difference and I would have to start looking at the 09 a lot harder.

I don't think the self healing paint would be that big of a deal in the way of repairs. What I am really wondering is if it is possible to apply it to an 08.

Perry

[Jacko3]

If I had $32,700 in my hand, its all boost. I would boost the engine, boost the transmission, boost the fuel pump, brakes, suspension, etc. In essence, i would have a real competition ride.

[audtatious]

42k sticker can be had for around 35-37k easily. I picked my G37 up for 37k (42k sticker) without any haggling on price and this was before the auto market blowup. Hell, start at 34k on the 37 as it will hold its value better than a 35 at this point and if you go for 36 months you can get 0.0% APR.

[xacura]

oh i hate the dealers in the midwest! i was gonna buy today. salesman called 3 times why i didnt show up lol. i wanted to see what you guys said. for $35-37k i want the '09! they wont go a penny off sticker. a dealer in illinois wants $1,000 over sticker even! should i hold out till jan 6?

as i said i do not speed by any means. i could care less about power. i would like better brakes. the '09 has better brakes?

plus paddle shifting 7 speeds would be real cool. even if i was at 1000rpm at my maximum speed of 50mph haha.

i will have to go to another dealer i am sure. i think this guy thinks he has me trained that they wont budge off sticker on the '09. i gotta start fresh to pull a deal i bet. they are also telling me it is minimum 7.5% apr for 36! bah.

thanks guys!

[audtatious]

Contact other Infiniti dealerships around the country and have one shipped to you if necessary. The problem with the G37x today is it's "new" and currently winter so there may be a higher demand than normal.

[SVTCOBRA]

they are also telling me it is minimum 7.5% apr for 36! bah.

thanks guys!

Find a credit union and take dealer financing out of the picture. Unless they are offering lower rates as an incentive.

Mine is advertising 5.05 for 36 to 60 months and they've given me better than the advertised rate.
https://www.truliantfcu.org/borrow/auto-loans

[audtatious]

Well poop. It does look like the 0.0% is on the 08's....

[Kendahl]

As a reality check, you might want to see what a low mileage '08 is worth. An unsold one should be worth more, but not much more.

Since they are trying to unload the leftover '08s, I can understand their not budging on the '09 price. Once the '08s are gone and the '09s are all they have to sell, I suspect they will be more flexible.

In your shoes, I would contact other dealers to see what kind of deals they can make. Half a dozen quotes should tell you what you need to know.

[Tampa G35 Sedan 6MT]

I would wait for the 09... It is newer and holdout on buying... the longer you wait the better the deal...

DJ

[Sharp_cai]

G37 Sedan is the new model for 09, it will be expensive, and the price is hard to negotiate, same as the G37, when it just came out the price is high and not negotiable, how much is the 2008 g37 couple now? i can get one with 4000 miles on it, and it has Prem, Nav, Sports package, only cost $33,000, i mean it all depands yourself, do you want the new model? u can get a g35 for less money and same look. It is your call.

[xacura]

i just wanted to thank all you guys for the nice input. as it turns out i had concerns as to if i was really comfortable in the car. i weigh 380lbs. and 6'8". so i rented one for a week and i love the car but i am jammed in it. the price on the '08 was a steal too. this is shame for me. i may be in luck though! i have seen ads on the internet for new m35's for $35,000! i don't know if these companies are legit or not though. i might go for the maxima now. i think the maxima is actually nicer than the m35 but i am probably missing something. i wish i could have a sports machine like the g35x but i have to be somewhat comfortable in it. my legs were jammed in the steering wheel and my shoulder was jammed in the door. i just can't be happy that way for the long term.

i am pretty sure my acura rl is a much bigger car than the g35x. anyhow, i am sorry i bothered you guys. i thought it was the right thing to let you guys know my situation.

thank you

[zozoka1212]

I think theMaxima is almost same size with the G. M is a bit bigger. Maybe you should testdrive the Hyundai Genesis sedan. It should be a good size for you and maybe not to expensive.

zozo

[xacura]

the genesis is perfect for me. i also happen to think it is a great car even if it is a hyundai. the problem is that it is very bad in the snow. i got stuck on the test drive and they had to pull it out with a tow truck. it will go through 4" of snow fine but beyond that it will get stuck. i might be able to get an m35 from a reputable delaer for $38k so i am thinking about that.

the maxima seems bigger than the g to me but according to what i have read it is smaller than an altima. my big problem with the g is not headroom it is legroom and hip/shoulder room. i really want the g though. i am still considering just being uncomfortable. some dealers are down to $31k already. that is hard to pass up! when i was 20 i would stuff myself into anything fast. now i have a bad back and everything.

thanks