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MiniMan
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Ryan, Red, Green, Purple (what?! SHAT... too many friggin colors!) and other active owners:

http://page3.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/c59244618

30k YEN = $370 CDN = $266 USD

I believe this also includes the wiring harness, though the seller says he won't ship internationally! Arg. Maybe the site you purchase things through will be able to have the item shipped over Ryan? This would definitely be worth looking into.

I know this isn't the latest version, but it's got more features than the ASC680 and it's half the price!!!

:ylsuper

Corey


MiniMan
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BTW, do you know if you can buy body kits off yahoo jp via the site you purchase things through? I wouldn't mind picking up a used kit and fixing it up...

Corey

AZ94Q
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Corey,

I already have an order going for some yahoo jp stuff..

I also noticed the ASE on sale.. It would be no problem having it shipped here in the same order I have... I am currently working out the visor issue, and then I am going to have everything shipped..

We could easily get these and have them shipped..

The ASC680 (new unit) can read each actuator, and provide a read out I believe.. im not sure if the ase can get this..

I guess it boils down to if the asc680 is that much better then the ase...

AZ94Q
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I'm going to hit up datasystems website, and see how the two stack up against each other..

Many links to come!

MiniMan
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Ryan, if you can be certain that it comes with the correct harness then I am in.

There are a few downsides to the ASC680 compared to the ASE664 such as no longer controlling height by speed. I'm unsure of the ASC680s advantages over the ASE664, though I could only see them being minimal at best.

Do you have any idea how much shipping would be if we split the cost via the number of items we're getting off yahoo jp auctions?

I'd shat myself if I could get the controller for $400-450 CDN or less!!

As far as your visor covers go... I saw an identical auction. They were listed as covers, not as replacement material or a complete visor setup.

Corey

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Ok, here is what I have figured out.

The ASE664http://babelfish.altavista.com....html

ASC680http://babelfish.altavista.com....html

Display: The asc680 has a duel led blacklight, and a much nicer display throughout IMO.. I also like the arrows as opposed to buttons

Features of ASC680http://babelfish.altavista.com....html

Features of ASE664http://babelfish.altavista.com....html

Summary- Both have speedometer functions. The ASC680 has height monitoring capability. The real time which is sent from the height sensor Height data bar graphical representation.You can verify height state at the glance. Bad translation, but you get the point. I kind of like the real time height display. The ASE doesn't have this feature. The ASC680 has five height memories, including normal. 6 total. Five setting height memory possibilities < Industry beginning >It includes normal and changes height, simply at switches 1 of 6 sorts possibility. The ASE has 3 height memories and normal.. Or possibly a total of 3.. either way it has less memory..

The ASE has a few features the ASC doesn't, however. It can auto adjust at a given speed, and you can get a remote to change between the different memory settings.

Conclusion:

ASC680 has a better screen, real time height monitoring, and more memory settings. The ASE can change based on speed, and can be operated via remote.

Price: With todays translation the ASE would cost:

29,400.00 JPYJapan Yen = 260.414 USDUnited States Dollars

$260 USD + shipping.. So roughly between $300-320 or so. The ASC680 costs at a minimum $530 (thats the price he quoted only for me) $630 regularly. This includes harness.

You can make up your own opinions about which display you like, and which features you prefer..

Basically the ASE is 1/2 cost.

The ASC also may be easer to install

It can do also the model setting which is necessary when installing, simply with the car species name indication with dot matrix display.

I don't see anything like this noted for the ASE, although I doubt it's a big deal..



ASC680 specsH24×W85.5×D82 mm

ASE664W86mm×H24mm×D86mm

Check out the links, let me know what you think about the newer product vs the older product.. The ASE is discontinued, and therefor on close out pricing...

Let me know what you think Corey

AZ94Q
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Corey,

Those were the same ones I purchased. Look how much better they look in the auction. I am hoping this is because they are covering a visor, and not stand alone..

I somehow forgot or didnt ntoice they were covers. I am verifying they will fit with my car, and trying to get a pic of them installed on a Q. I am going to get them, and hope for the best.

AZ94Q
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The ASC680 and ASE664 both have the same ranges

-50mm+10mm

AZ94Q
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Take a look at these product catalog PDFs..

Gives you a decent close up of the display, and other screen shots.

ASC680http://babelfish.altavista.com...c.pdf

ASE664http://babelfish.altavista.com...4.pdf

MiniMan
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IMO, I agree with you 150%. The ASC680 has a MUCH nicer display with the big buttons.

The height monitoring capability is only for air suspension however:

"The air valve and the compressor of each wheel are watched,Height control action in real time verification possibility.(* Only air suspension car)"

As well, I'm not too sure if I would ever use more than 4 settings... super low, cruising height, everyday driving height and a raised height for parking lots, driveways, etc. I could probably even do with just three heights... super low for looks, everyday driving height and raised for parking lots, etc.

I just can't seam to justify spending twice as much just to have a few extra memory settings and a bit better looks. Especially as I hope to be hiding the controller in the ashtray.

*shrug*

Tell me what you think.

Corey

AZ94Q
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Corey,

Go back to the ASC680 feature page

You are correct about the valve monitoring

The air valve and the compressor of each wheel are watched,Height control action in real time verification possibility.(* Only air suspension car)

I was talking about this...

Height monitoring capabilityThe real time which is sent from the height sensorHeight data bar graphical representation.You can verify height state at the glance.

This applies to our cars.

MiniMan
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I think you're right Ryan. But as I'm planning on hiding the unit anyways, I don't think this feature would be of much use to me.

I think I'm going to get this as soon as we can find out if the wiring harness they're selling it with will fit our Qs or not.

Corey

AZ94Q
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Cool deal. They both perform the same functions anyway..

MiniMan
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Do you think you're going to get it as well Ryan?

Do you mind if I have it shipped in your order, or should I get it shipped seperately?

Corey

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Corey,

They are both 1/2 din correct?

MiniMan
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Yuppers. They are very very close to being 1/2 DIN.

Corey

AZ94Q
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It appears as though the auto adjust at given speed function is fully programmable. I was thinking it did it for you based on certain speed.. I guess you plug in all the paramaters..

We figured out it can be lowered by 2 inches and raised by an additional 1 inch?? now I cant remember

Also the hyper low mode, is that the max down setting IE 2 inches?

What would you program it for...

1 inch after 80 or so?

MiniMan
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It can be lowered 5cm = approx 2 inches

It can be raised 1cm = approx 0.4 inches

That is including the "hyper low" mode.

Personally, I think that setting would be good if you want the look of the car's stock height but want the performance of having the car lowered. In doing so, you could have it raised for 10mph or less (parking lots, driveways, etc), then lower it to a regular setting at 20mph (speed bumps), then lower it at 40, again at 60, then 80, etc. until the car is dropped the full 2".

That's about where I'd start anywho. I doubt my speed guesstimates would be accurate, though it gives you some idea anywho...

Corey

AZ94Q
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So in reality, the raising just accomplishes switching the button in the console from N to H or whatever it is?

I think you lost me on this one

Personally, I think that setting would be good if you want the look of the car's stock height but want the performance of having the car lowered

????

AZ94Q
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Are you refering to the adjust at speed function?

MiniMan
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You're correct. The car doesn't raise much... no more than it would raise by using the Normal to High switch that came stock with the car.

Say you need to be able to corner better... at 20mph it doesn't make a difference how high the car is you can take the corner just fine... but the faster you go, the more lowering the car helps cornering, right? Well, the faster you go, the more the car lowers. When say sitting at stop lights though, the car will appear to be at a normal or raised height.... thus looking stock, but performing as a lowered car would.

I hope that makes my statements slightly clearer.

Corey

AZ94Q
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Ah.. makes sense

Espically with a body kit.. don't want to be scraping the fiberglass.

AZ94Q
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It is possible to change automatically, according to the vehicle speed which sets the height of 2 sorts which it sets, optionally.

I take it that means it can adjust based on two memory settings, which you choose..

MiniMan
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Exactly.

Even without a body kit... dropping the car 2 inches is a HUGE difference in height. Nearly wheels in fender type of height. That wouldn't make it fun going through parking lots, up/down driveways, etc.

Do you think you're in on buying this Ryan?

Corey

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Trying to decide. Either way I will get one for you with my order. I feel bad I couldn't get you the price on the ASC they quoted me.

I don't mind adding your order to mine.. no bigge. I have all my stuff, and was just waiting on some further clarification regarding the sun visors. I am going to get them anyway, and hope they end up looking as slick as the ones in the auction pics..

MiniMan
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Right on! Thanks Ryan.

Do you have PayPal? If so, I'll forward you the cash.

How big of objects can the company you're going through ship? I'd take it body kits are out of the question... but I thought I'd ask anyways...

Corey

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Corey,

Tell me exactly what you want to know about the auction, and I'll get Azuma to contact the seller and ask him directly.

Also, I guess since you live in Canada, it would be best to have the item shipped directly to you.

After we get all the info squared away, I'll probably just have you paypal azuma directly, to avoid any further stupid paypal fees etc..

So yea, I'll contact azuma and get him to get you the info you need. I will then give you the go ahead to paypal him. He will then get the stuff. I'll have him ship the ASE to your location. We can worry about payment and address and all that stuff later..

AZ94Q
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Corey,

He uses USPS Global EMS I am fairly sure.. They are somewhat restrictive about size.

If there is something you want, I can ask him if he can ship using another method..

I don't really think he cares, as long as you pay enough to cover shipping..

MiniMan
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That sounds good to me Ryan.

If you'd be able to get Azuma to ask the seller if the wiring harness sold with the ASE664 fits the Nissan Q45, that'd be great.

If possible, I'd like to have it end up in Vegas as that's where I'll be picking the car up.

When I find a suitable body kit, I will forward the URL to you so you can show Azuma and get his opinion on whether or not he wants to ship it.

I really REALLY wish Evolution still made the wide body kit! *drool* A mere $2500 CDN + shipping...

Thanks again Ryan.

Corey

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Corey,

Will do. Can you find me another link from the yahoo jp auctions? I am lazy and tired... the one above just ended..


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