M45 Big Brake Kit- with pictures

[SteveTheTech]

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I would like to thank YosM45 for bringing his great looking 2006 M45 to me for a BBK kit. This is not quite the easiest job ever. The lines were the biggest problem but everything else was pretty straight forward. The rear dust shields were the only thing that requires modification. I tried to straighten the edges but that is not work, in the end a pair of tin snips got the job done.

This weekend I plan on writing a thorough how-to on this but it is not for noobs.

Here are some pre install and post install pics. The nitty gritty shot will be out later.

Sorry I cannot drive in a car supporting the Dolphins

The rotors are bigger than my head and I have a really large head.

Yos- The car looks and drives great. Once they break in a little more they will be awesome. In the new and fresh state I am amazed at the stopping ability under normal conditions. Plus the exhaust sounds great, I like the subtlety. It must be really hard to stay out of the throttle. Really cool looking wheels too, the design is like nothing I have actually had the pleasure of working on. The lack of an inside edge makes balancing a bit of a challenge but it was well worth it, and I took a microfiber towel with me when I went to go take pictures they seem to be dust magnets. I can't wait till you get her back.

Yours was also the first car I have actually seen with the nav bypass done, not that I was snooping I grabbed the key out of the middle and flipped the switch and that peaked my interest.I know that 98% of dealer personal have no idea what that is for if they were to see it, Nico is the only reason I knew what it was. That is actually really cool when it works while you are moving but it is far too distracting for daily operation. Really cool though.

[yosM45]

Steve, your the man.

Thank you for the install.

It looks absolutely sick. I can't wait to pick it up tomorrow.

Glad you enjoyed the Nav Hack, I can't live without it. Really can't use in this VA/DC/MD traffic.

Patriots??? Of all the teams.

[ken in az]

It looks like you used the 1 piece SS brake lines up front - how did you route them?

I routed mine near almost the same and used the existing stud for the OEM lines on the strut housing as a mounting point for the little bracket for the ss lines.

A little chincy if you ask me, but that is how the "stop tech" lines are for the G37 so it can't be all that bad.

Cool thing with the ss lines it the ABS is barely noticable. Durring my bed in procedure I braked pretty dar aggressivley a few times to engage the ABS and the first 2 times I did I didn't even notice - lol

Great pics btw! Steve and Yos - Great job and I can't believe how large thos rims are! those rotors are massive and they look normal sized on your car!

[New2Import]

This is my next mod. Im saving the pennies up. Nice job.

[Backdoc7]

Me likey! Very cool mod.

[jlakst6]

The car looks awesome, great work. I am definitely interested in moving forward with this upgrade for my M. How can I get on your schedule?

[Poyzinous]

The rotors are bigger than my head and I have a really large head.

HAHA! Big head... Good Job steve. I'm proud of you. Especially for going to the same park I had my wedding pics taken in... Brakes look Fanfreakintastic

[NightWatch]

What did it run in parts and labor? and I'm assuming it can be done on an M35 as well? I'm really not very happy with the stock brakes.

[Poyzinous]

it can be done on all Y50 models.

[SteveTheTech]

The car looks awesome, great work. I am definitely interested in moving forward with this upgrade for my M. How can I get on your schedule?

Currently Poyzinous and I are working on setting up a package deal for the componenets. I think the rotors and lines used by Yos not only increase the functionality of the setup but also the aesthetics of the brakes as well.

The only thing I noticed on this one was there are little lines that the G37 uses that come off the caliper and go to the rubber OE M line it is much easier to get them to fit with the G line than the much shorter M lines.

jlakst6- If you are interested feel free to email me ( [email protected] ) and we can discuss the details.

[szh]

Great work, Steve!

Is it a fair assumption that a wheel upgrade to 19" or 20" is absolutely required to clear the calipers? I.e., could you have made the 18" wheels work at all or not enough clearance?

it can be done on all Y50 models.

Do you and Steve all have any thoughts on big brake possibilities for a Y34?

[Poyzinous]

The Y34 I don't know about, since it is a G line chassis, the M and FX and G are all FM chassis so thats why they are easily (relatively) interchangeable. 18" wheels will work, but you need a 25mm spacer for the factory wheels. I dont know about the G wheels since we just started testing all this. We'll keep everyone up to date though..

[EcstaSPT]

Do all the caliper pistons just press in or are they screw in?

[Poyzinous]

screw in ones were only on rear calipers on old nissan vehicles. The new ones are all direct pressure so they just push in.

[ken in az]

Great work, Steve!

Is it a fair assumption that a wheel upgrade to 19" or 20" is absolutely required to clear the calipers? I.e., could you have made the 18" wheels work at all or not enough clearance?

I can tell you the 19" sport wheels 06-08 work with a 20mm spacer on an 06-08 model. Coz at concept Z can tell you what other wheels work as well. I'm pretty sure he said there was a 350z 18"wheel fits with no mods, but the Z has so many different types between model years I couldn't be certain. There is also a G35 Rays 19 wheel that fits with no spacer as well.

Also Concept Z has a template to download and print to check fitment on any wheel.

BTW a forum sponsor has everything available as a kit - Talk with Justin and he can help you out. He's the one that helped me get everything sorted on my car.

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[Backdoc7]

Interesting. I'm in the market for 20's and would like to get some that fit the BBK in case I decide to do that mod (high likelihood). I think most 8.5" fronts with a lower (+31-+35) would most likely fit right? I know the 9" fronts would create problems though wouldn't they?

[ken in az]

Dunno but when I get my calipers back from the powdercoater next week 07sportm35 and I will test fit those 20" Vossen's to see if they clear.

If you are looking and find a set of wheels and are interested in getting the BBK definitely download the template and have the seller test fit them before purchase to save you the heartache. I think you are right that the less offset you have the better chance of the wheel fitting, but I've seen it the other way and it really depends on how the wheel was built.

[Koshin]

lower your car...

those brakes are dope

[jlakst6]

yosM45,

Did you get you NAV Hack done locally?

[bicsintegra]

i like it the rims too maybe a 1" drop all around and perfection.

[Backdoc7]

Dunno but when I get my calipers back from the powdercoater next week 07sportm35 and I will test fit those 20" Vossen's to see if they clear.

If you are looking and find a set of wheels and are interested in getting the BBK definitely download the template and have the seller test fit them before purchase to save you the heartache. I think you are right that the less offset you have the better chance of the wheel fitting, but I've seen it the other way and it really depends on how the wheel was built.

Thanks for the reply Ken. Look fwd to hearing about your 20's test fit with 07SportM35.

[New2Import]

Interesting. I'm in the market for 20's and would like to get some that fit the BBK in case I decide to do that mod (high likelihood). I think most 8.5" fronts with a lower (+31-+35) would most likely fit right? I know the 9" fronts would create problems though wouldn't they?

What matters is if you get a high or low disc wheel. Width doesnt matter. Muti piece would be your best bet for that custom fit and not subject to limited choice of wheels. I doubt the Vossen one piece will fit. You see the Niche cleared but it doesnt have a lip.

[kingpin]

will this apply to a 2003/2004 m 45 ?

[SteveTheTech]

This upgrade does not fit the 03-04. That would require a bracket similar to the one for the G35.

I did some rough measurements on a Q yesterday. The torque member bolt location is ~1.5" less on the M than the 06+M. It could be possible to make this work but I do not know if demand is suitable for an aftermarket company to produce a retrofit kit. The 03-04 uses a completely different front spindle setup and I have a sneaking suspicion that there are going to be other problems with the earlier models.

[yosM45]

yosM45,

Did you get you NAV Hack done locally?

I actually did it myself. It took me about 2 hours.

[yosM45]

What did it run in parts and labor? and I'm assuming it can be done on an M35 as well? I'm really not very happy with the stock brakes.

Calipers off a used 2008 G37S with all hardware and pads - $500

Stoptech D/S $480 for all 4 at Riverside Infiniti, call Tony.orOEM rotors (all 4) $410

G-Spec stainless brake lines $110 (all 4), call Greg. These are kevlar wrapped in stainless, and they will wrap the exterior of the in any color you want. I had mine done in clear.

Justin at Scottsdale Infiniti/Infinitipartsusa.com also carries the rotors, for a bit less (low $400's) but he's currently sold out, so I paid a bit more at Riverside to get them quicker.

[NightWatch]

Not bad Let us know how you think they perform.

[ken in az]

make sure you bed the pads in well. I noticed a definite difference in stopping power after I did mine.

[szh]

make sure you bed the pads in well.

Yes!

Absolutely essential to do with new rotors and pads.

The method is described in the Service Manual, except that I would not come to a complete halt between heating runs - that leaves hot pads resting on one spot on the rotor. Even for a few seconds of rest is bad.

The idea is to do get to a high-speed safely (up to 50 to 60 mph) and brake relatively hard (no lockups!) to about 5 mph. Don't come to a complete stop, accelerate moderately up to speed again and repeat ten times -letting the pads heat up more than normal basically.

Then go a steady drive for 10 to 20 minutes to cool the pads and rotors and let them set before coming to a halt.

This process leaves an even film of pad material on the rotor and prevents clumping of pad material later - which people sometimes mistake for warped rotors when braking.

Z

[InfinitiMe]

Nice install Steve. And nice car yosm45.

And Steve is telling the truth everyone. I've met him; he does have a huge head