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Bart
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sydney NSW
7-28-2003
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| « Re: Barts 1973 LJ Torana VH41 Twin turbo project (OutToWinPAHC) | 8:20 PM 9/12/2008 |
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Sorry mate, i kind of promised my self the next post will be of the car or at least the engine running, and i can say its not far off. 
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Bart
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sydney NSW
7-28-2003
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| « Re: Barts 1973 LJ Torana VH41 Twin turbo project (Bart) | 6:19 AM 9/20/2008 |
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ITS ALIVE 
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Carl H
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1995 240SX SE RB20DET Powered!, 1995 Jaguar XJR...needs paint.
Charlotte NC
8-4-2003
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video or shens.
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Kalypso
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Flushing, Queens NY
7-24-2007
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| « Re: (Carl H) | 5:16 PM 9/20/2008 |
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simply incredible. what turbo's are you using, I am amazed by all of this.
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Bart
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sydney NSW
7-28-2003
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| « Re: (Kalypso123) | 6:58 PM 9/20/2008 |
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The turbo's I'm using are two GT3071R's, not installed yet as I just got it going, the manifolds are bolted onto the motor so its just a matter of bolting the turbo on but I still have to make up the exhaust pipes, the car is still at the mechanics I will pick it up today.
There was a bit of drama, typical of this project, we couldn’t get oil pressure, we believe it was because the custom oil pick up was just full of air since the engine never ran with this setup so we pressurized the sump with some air (5psi) through the dip stick tube and filled the oil filter and lines with oil and it worked, we got good pressure.
Custom clutch works well
Custom brakes work but the pedal goes down too far so may need more bleeding.
The custom fuel tank and pump/line setup works really well also.
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Kalypso
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Flushing, Queens NY
7-24-2007
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| « Re: (Bart) | 7:24 PM 9/20/2008 |
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great news, take photos
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Bart
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315 posts
sydney NSW
7-28-2003
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| « Re: (Kalypso123) | 9:29 PM 9/20/2008 |
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I will
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qsiguy
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1994 Infiniti Q45 Turbo
Phoenix AZ
3-20-2005
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Stop teasing! Must...Have....Photos and/or videos!! 
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Bart
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sydney NSW
7-28-2003
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| « Re: (qsiguy) | 7:50 PM 9/23/2008 |
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lol, sorry guys, i will do it on the weekend during the day, i only have a still shot camera with a video feature (with sound) and realy should be done during day light.
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Bart
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sydney NSW
7-28-2003
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| « Re: (Bart) | 5:36 AM 9/25/2008 |
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audtatious
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2008 G37s Coupe - 2007 G35s Sedan
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| « Re: (Bart) | 6:30 AM 9/25/2008 |
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Damn dude, that thing is going to be crazy!!! 
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Carl H
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1995 240SX SE RB20DET Powered!, 1995 Jaguar XJR...needs paint.
Charlotte NC
8-4-2003
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where are the minijetengines?
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Bart
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315 posts
sydney NSW
7-28-2003
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| « Re: (Carl H) | 8:38 AM 9/25/2008 |
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Its only been a couple of days but yeah they should be bolted on this week end. 
Unfortunately one of the oil lines are braided rubber hose and is very close to the exhaust manifold, (my fault) so i was advised to change those lines to steel so im fabricating steel lines at the moment.
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Kalypso
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Flushing, Queens NY
7-24-2007
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| « Re: (Bart) | 7:26 PM 9/25/2008 |
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now that you've made the exhaust it seems like you'll be rerouting them back up to the exhaust turbines... I am anxious to see how the turbo's will play into all this.
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Bart
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sydney NSW
7-28-2003
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| « Re: (Kalypso123) | 1:46 AM 9/26/2008 |
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The oil lines im talking about go from the two outlets in the block where originally there was the oil filter housing. I removed the oil filter housing and mouted it in the engine bay, you can see in the vid the oil filter is standing up. At the moment i have braided lines going from the block to the filter housing, near the block area the lines are very close to the manifold, this section of line i will replace with steel tube, then attatch the braid on that where it clears the manifold
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squidgymop
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S#!t box commodore
melbourne Victoria
10-4-2008
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| « Re: (Bart) | 6:02 AM 10/4/2008 |
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mate you have done a wonderful job glad to see and aussie car with such a conversion i love the torana and love the nissan vh41 made for each other although after all the work you have done you may say otherwise lol. after all this work do you think it is still worth it instead of dropping in a 308 or 350? still an awesome job love to see the car on the front page of street machine mag
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Bart
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sydney NSW
7-28-2003
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| « Re: (squidgymop) | 8:05 AM 10/5/2008 |
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Thanks mate
I didnt use a 350 as its illegal in a LJ.
I wanted a V8 with turbos, so a 308 with turbos is illegal, i could have used a 253 with turbos but i dont like 253 very much so a VH41 with turbos was the choice i had.
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Bart
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sydney NSW
7-28-2003
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| « Re: (Bart) | 4:22 AM 10/7/2008 |
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Hey guys, just wondering what this outlet in the throttle body is for? Where should i connect this to??
turbo tight squeeze
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tmorgan4
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2000 Pathfinder
Fort Collins Co
12-24-2006
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| « Re: (Bart) | 5:37 AM 10/7/2008 |
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Nice job squeezing the turbo in there! I had to go back and look through pictures of my build to figure out what that inlet was for. It looks like that valve is part of the EGR system (It's been so long since I've looked at this, I'm a little embarrassed I'm forgetting this stuff already!) so if you aren't keeping the EGR system, plug it. I found a block off plate that fit perfectly on the bottom of my OEM Pathfinder VG33 manifold. Other companies sell the block off plates, or it seems like you've got the means of making your own. 
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Bart
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sydney NSW
7-28-2003
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| « Re: (tmorgan4) | 6:44 AM 10/7/2008 |
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Sounds good to me.
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Carl H
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1995 240SX SE RB20DET Powered!, 1995 Jaguar XJR...needs paint.
Charlotte NC
8-4-2003
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that is the idle air control valve...good to have for idle...not egr.
if you're on a map system then you need to just put a filter on it, else needs to be routed into the intake track before the throttle blade.
quick word of advice tho, that pushfit aeroquip hose is great to make hoses on the fly but it does not stand up to heat worth a damn, either insulate the crap out of it or replace with ss braid...my oil hose almost exploded due to heat issues and has since been replaced with ss braid.
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tmorgan4
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2000 Pathfinder
Fort Collins Co
12-24-2006
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| « Re: (Carl H) | 3:20 PM 10/7/2008 |
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Is his Idle Air Control Valve in a different place than mine? I did realize that his valve looked differently (mine was the little flying saucer looking thing) but you can see my IACV on the back of the intake.
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OutToWinPAHC
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1991 240sx Hatch with LS6 V8, TH350 Trans
Philadelphia PA
5-31-2007
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| « Re: (Carl H) | 3:53 PM 10/7/2008 |
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I know nothing of these motors but IAC's are a passage way to bypass the throttle plate. A piston or solenoid controlled by the ECU open and closes the passageway. It is used to idle, basically its what a choke used to do on carb cars. IAC are located on the throttle body, not on the intake usually. I don't see any spots to land wires to control an IAC on that. It appears to be EGR relatedFrom Nissan Parts.org
 1) Egr valve 2) Egr valve Gasket 3) Tube
4) Egr temp sensor 5) Bpt valve 6) Bpt valve Bracket
7) Vapor canister 8) #1 Hitachi 9) Solenoid valve #2
10) Oxygen sensor Right
It looks to be the EGR valve. Hope I could help you out some.
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tmorgan4
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2000 Pathfinder
Fort Collins Co
12-24-2006
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| « Re: (OutToWinPAHC) | 4:15 PM 10/7/2008 |
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This is really puzzling me...It doesn't look like the EGR or IACV valves! You can see my IACV valve on the back of my intake manifold in the picture above. Any chance you might be able to get another picture (maybe a few) of it Bart? I'd really like to find out what that is.
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XJared
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06 Titan, 83 Z
Tallahassee FL
5-26-2008
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thats the inlet for the iacv...notice the adjuster screw directly on top of it?
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tmorgan4
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2000 Pathfinder
Fort Collins Co
12-24-2006
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| « Re: (XJared) | 5:58 PM 10/7/2008 |
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Yeah I did notice that screw which made me curious. Could this be a difference between model years? Both the IACV on the VH45 and my old VG33 used the same, identical 4 bolt pattern. Not a 2 bolt like I've got on my manifold. All the diagrams I've seen (like the one a few posts up) show the EGR valve bolting up where Bart has this "mystery" valve. Look at pictures here: http://forums.nicoclub.com/zerothread?id=33796
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Mettler
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HR31 GTS-8 coupe, VH41/45 Hybrid Transplant
Hamilton
1-15-2006
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tmorgan4, Bart's engine is a JDM VH41DE, the hoses in and around the manifold are completely different to the VH45DE... this may explain your confusion  The one Bart was pointing to does indeed go to the intake tract before the throttle body. [edit]Argh I posted up some pics but realised they won't be of any help[/edit] The JDM VH41DE has a cast aluminium bend bolted to the front of the throttle body, and the bend has a tube coming off it for that hose.
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Bart
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sydney NSW
7-28-2003
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| « Re: (tmorgan4) | 6:21 PM 10/7/2008 |
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I know when i block the outlet and adjust the screw it affects the idle speed.
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Bart
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sydney NSW
7-28-2003
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| « Re: (Bart) | 6:26 PM 10/7/2008 |
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So should i just plug it into the inlet before the TB? Mettler
I cant remember there being a bend. I will have another look, maybe the bend is on the original 3 1/2" dia rubber hose which goes on the TB?
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tmorgan4
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2000 Pathfinder
Fort Collins Co
12-24-2006
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| « Re: (Mettler) | 6:31 PM 10/7/2008 |
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| Quote, originally posted by Mettler » | | tmorgan4, Bart's engine is a JDM VH41DE, the hoses in and around the manifold are completely different to the VH45DE... this may explain your confusion The one Bart was pointing to does indeed go to the intake tract before the throttle body. [edit]Argh I posted up some pics but realised they won't be of any help[/edit] The JDM VH41DE has a cast aluminium bend bolted to the front of the throttle body, and the bend has a tube coming off it for that hose. |
THANK YOU METTLER! I guess I could have looked at the title that does in fact show he's using a VH41! I forget sometimes that not everyone here is using a 45. 
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Carl H
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8-4-2003
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if you're using a map based ecu no need to plumb it into the intake track, just put a small filter on it and reconnect to the ecu to keep a nice idle.
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Mettler
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HR31 GTS-8 coupe, VH41/45 Hybrid Transplant
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1-15-2006
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^ What he said! It's just the hose for the idle control, I forgot what you're doing for an ECU, but CarlH has already summed up what you need to do in either case, whether you're using MAP or MAF _bMOAR PICS Bart :D
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Bart
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sydney NSW
7-28-2003
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| « Re: (Mettler) | 7:57 PM 10/7/2008 |
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I can take more pics. Im using a programable after market ECU, using a MAP sensor. I have another air signal line going to the MAP sensor on the other side of the manifold. A filter sounds good but no way i can feed another line from this outlet to the ECU
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Mettler
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| « Re: (Bart) | 7:57 PM 10/7/2008 |
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I may be mistaken in that it goes on that bend... I remember that bend has a tube coming off it for one of the bigger hoses, but I also remember there being a large fitting on the underside of the black plastic bend coming off the airbox. I'm not using any of that crap on mine though, got a custom bend in there :D| Quote, originally posted by Bart » | | I cant remember there being a bend. |
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fraz
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8-28-2004
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Just take that whole idle control unit off and make a plate to blank it off.
Some aftermarket ecu's dont control those idle solenoids very well. Im running a rb30det but retained all the rb25det cold start and idle stuff. My tuner advised me to blank it off, then set the idle with the throttle stop screw. I still have the cold start valve hooked up, so when its cold it idles around 1050rpm then drops down to 800/850 when warm.
All you need to do is feed 12v off the injector feed to it so it only gets power when the engines running, the valve heats up and closes. I think the v8 also has this part. BTW, nice job Bart, been following it with interest 
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Bart
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sydney NSW
7-28-2003
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| « Re: (fraz) | 5:53 PM 10/21/2008 |
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Thanks fraz and everyone else, i ended up plumbing a hose back into the intake before the TB, it works well and was quite simple.
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Carl H
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werd, you'll definately want the ecu decel idle up for your setup.
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Bart
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sydney NSW
7-28-2003
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| « Re: (Bart) | 5:48 AM 11/10/2008 |
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Hey guys
I did a search on wiring up the alternator and found a few unanswered threads except a couple which wernt entirley clear.I connected the main thick cable to 12v.
Just wondering the 2 small wires on the plug, my guess is one goes to a cluster light and the other to 12v?
The problem im having is battery is not charging.
Thanks guys
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Kalypso
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Flushing, Queens NY
7-24-2007
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| « Re: (Bart) | 8:44 AM 11/10/2008 |
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If you can find, Hijacker over in the sr20det rwd section he'll know just by looking at it. he's a moderator, and take pics also.
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Carl H
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the white/red wire on the alternator plug is normally your alternator light...as far as charging goes be sure the grounds and the battery connections are good...a friend had a similar problem where the car would start and run but would not charge even tho the alternator tested out to be good.
problem ended up being his grounds were on painted metal and poor connections, moved to unpainted metal and proper connections problem went away.
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