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I don't mean to be a jerk you were nice enough to post all those pics but what would be the point? Do you regulary drive into a garage space so tight you need to fold the mirrors to fit your car or are you just a jdm fanboy?
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| « Re: (theclub) | 10:06 PM 5/28/2007 |
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nice write-up!| Quote, originally posted by theclub » | | I don't mean to be a jerk you were nice enough to post all those pics but what would be the point? Do you regulary drive into a garage space so tight you need to fold the mirrors to fit your car or are you just a jdm fanboy? |
what's the point of your question?

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indeed. It was a nice write up and I'm sure there will be plenty of folks who would give Positronone a pat on the back for the solution to this type of problem.Positronone, I'll ask to have this thread moved as an article if you'd like. I think it'd do better there than getting lost in the pages of the tech section.
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| « Re: (180fan) | 1:50 AM 5/29/2007 |
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definitely an excellent write-up. next time you should wire up a JDM tyte bumper POLE!

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| « Re: (180fan) | 6:45 AM 5/29/2007 |
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| Quote, originally posted by 180fan » | | indeed. It was a nice write up and I'm sure there will be plenty of folks who would give Positronone a pat on the back for the solution to this type of problem. Positronone, I'll ask to have this thread moved as an article if you'd like. I think it'd do better there than getting lost in the pages of the tech section. | Thanks!
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 When running the wires on the passenger side...
 make sure you close up the rubber grommets and replace the foam sealing the opening to prevent any chances of water getting in and onto your ECU which is directly below this opening.



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| « Re: S13 Power Folding Mirror Install (positronone) | 9:31 AM 6/4/2007 |
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great write up! what's just below the space for your head unit?

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| « Re: S13 Power Folding Mirror Install (mandanglelow) | 11:27 AM 6/4/2007 |
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Thanks! It's a freebox/cupholder.
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| « Re: S13 Power Folding Mirror Install (mandanglelow) | 11:27 AM 6/4/2007 |
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sweet. nice write up.
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| « Re: S13 Power Folding Mirror Install (positronone) | 2:14 PM 7/11/2007 |
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quick question... If the USDM has 7 wires and each jdm power folding mirror has 2 extra wires for the power folding option, where does the 4th wire connect to?ex: the blue extra harness for the power folding feature has a solid blue and solid green wire, but the switch only has 1 solid blue and 2 solid green. How did you get yours to work? I am currently attempting this mod. to a non power window 240 and appreciate any help

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sweet write up

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| « Re: S13 Power Folding Mirror Install (S-13) | 8:55 AM 7/12/2007 |
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| Quote, originally posted by S-13 » | | quick question... If the USDM has 7 wires and each jdm power folding mirror has 2 extra wires for the power folding option, where does the 4th wire connect to? ex: the blue extra harness for the power folding feature has a solid blue and solid green wire, but the switch only has 1 solid blue and 2 solid green. How did you get yours to work? I am currently attempting this mod. to a non power window 240 and appreciate any help | Yes, I have two mirrors apparently from two different year models of the car. I have a blue mirror on my drivers side that had the blue and white harnesses and I have a black mirror on my passenger side which only had the one white harness with the five wires coming out. It has the same yellow, blue and purple wires for the power function but the other two wires were orange and pink instead of blue and green.
 All you have to do is just cut and splice the wires and attach/solder them to the corresponding wires on the car. The first three match up color wise but the 2nd set for the power folding could be different depending on what year model mirrors that you have(some have blue/green while others have orange/pink) but they work just the same.
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| « Re: S13 Power Folding Mirror Install (positronone) | 11:01 AM 8/1/2007 |
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I know this is a longshot but i cant seem to get my passenger side to work. I matched up the 3 wires no problem and can adjust the mirrors on both sides. (5 wires accounted for) then the black wire to ground and the blue with red stripe to 12V (2 wires here). the 3 wires i have left are a single solid blue and 2 solid greens. soo i tried wiring them up and it only works on the driver side. funny thing is when the L&R selector is in the middle, it will still allow the power folding on the driver side. The reason im having such a hard time is because my car didnt originally come with a power mirror harness so i had to add the wires myself
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| « Re: S13 Power Folding Mirror Install (S-13) | 1:00 PM 8/1/2007 |
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Do you have the wires from both mirrors going to the same blue and the same green wire on the JDM harness?
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| « Re: S13 Power Folding Mirror Install (positronone) | 1:11 PM 8/1/2007 |
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no right now i havent soldered anything...yet. I basically have 10 wires coming to my cig. lighter from both mirrors so if i have to join them i can do it still. Am i supposed to have the blue and green from the driver and passenger side connected?
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| « Re: S13 Power Folding Mirror Install (S-13) | 1:50 PM 8/1/2007 |
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The blue from the drivers side and the blue from the passengers side both go to the solid blue on the switch harness like a "Y" formation...same with the green from the drivers side and the green from the passenger side both converging to the green on the switch harness.
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| « Re: S13 Power Folding Mirror Install (positronone) | 5:08 PM 8/14/2007 |
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| Quote, originally posted by positronone » | | The blue from the drivers side and the blue from the passengers side both go to the solid blue on the switch harness like a "Y" formation...same with the green from the drivers side and the green from the passenger side both converging to the green on the switch harness. |
i did that on mine and my right mirror/passenger doesn't work either. i have 9 wires connected to the jdm switch. is the folding motor broken? i don't hear the right motor. the adjustments are working.
Modified by 240on430 at 5:57 PM 8/14/2007
1993 240SX SE 5 speed coupe... Stance coilovers, ST f&r sway bars, strut bars, c pillar bar, CF hood, Injen CAI, SSAC duals, H4 conversionWANTED:power folding mirrors and switch xi2345@aol.com
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| « Re: S13 Power Folding Mirror Install (240on430) | 8:33 AM 8/21/2007 |
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Some JDM harnesses have two solid green wires, make sure you are connected to the right one.
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| « Re: S13 Power Folding Mirror Install (positronone) | 8:27 AM 8/22/2007 |
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Nice write up posi! Where did you get that trick CF center console cover?

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| « Re: S13 Power Folding Mirror Install (Dammitboy) | 10:07 AM 8/22/2007 |
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From this guy on ebay, he's on there from time to time with carbon fiber 240SX pieces like the console, the glovebox and other items. It was so long ago that I bought it that I can't remember his username.
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| « Re: S13 Power Folding Mirror Install (Dammitboy) | 4:00 PM 8/23/2007 |
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| Quote, originally posted by Dammitboy » | | Nice write up posi! Where did you get that trick CF center console cover? | Found some from Pandagarage on ebay, a little pricey, mine was cheaper but here you go. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors...wItem
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| « Re: S13 Power Folding Mirror Install (positronone) | 10:17 PM 9/12/2007 |
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| Quote, originally posted by positronone » | | Some JDM harnesses have two solid green wires, make sure you are connected to the right one. | got a new mirror from the ebay seller and the right mirror now works.
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| « Re: S13 Power Folding Mirror Install (positronone) | 8:25 AM 11/2/2007 |
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Nice write up.Has anyone ever tried this on an S13 that did not have factory power mirrors? I think I'm missing a lot of the wiring..... Is this going to be much more difficult? Thanks
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Anyone that ahs a convertible that has added power mirrors (folding or not) have to fab up a harness, VVTCoupe. Do a quick search for power mirrors in the vert forum and you'll find a How To I did a few years ago on adding power mirrors to a car with no harness.EDIT: http://forums.nicoclub.com/zerothread?id=77995 I went and pulled it up on my own. I figured I could find a lot faster than most others. I included the stock wiring diagram. I followed it wire for wire in fabbing up my harnesses. Of course, looking it back over with what I know now, it looks to be a switched voltage switch with one shared ground instead of a switched ground plug like I had initially thought.
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| « Re: S13 Power Folding Mirror Install (VVTCoupe) | 10:08 AM 11/2/2007 |
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| Quote, originally posted by VVTCoupe » | | Nice write up. Has anyone ever tried this on an S13 that did not have factory power mirrors? I think I'm missing a lot of the wiring..... Is this going to be much more difficult? Thanks | if i didn't have power mirrors, id just wire up the folding wires. how often do you adjust your mirrors? anyone use jdm bases? i have to fold the mirrors in a lil bit to aim them right.
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| « Re: S13 Power Folding Mirror Install (240on430) | 10:57 PM 11/2/2007 |
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Does your whole fan a/c heating system Do anything different? (sorry its late im tired and cant think of the name atm) I have never seen one of those before and just wondering if it has any advantages. Oh, and also i love that cup holder you have but, can you still fit in the radio or does it take up too much space for it?

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| « Re: S13 Power Folding Mirror Install (NismoDrift88) | 4:08 AM 11/3/2007 |
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| Quote, originally posted by NismoDrift88 » | | Does your whole fan a/c heating system Do anything different? (sorry its late im tired and cant think of the name atm) I have never seen one of those before and just wondering if it has any advantages. Oh, and also i love that cup holder you have but, can you still fit in the radio or does it take up too much space for it? | It doesn't do anything different besides the auto function for the climate control. You still have the same heat, air and defrost. The radio goes in above the cup holder din, I just don't have a radio at the moment.
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| « Re: S13 Power Folding Mirror Install (positronone) | 6:59 AM 11/16/2007 |
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Recently, I bought power folding mirrors and digital climate control unit. Searched for write ups and BAM! yours showed up right away and you also have digital cilmate control too. Man, you have all fancy stuff on your car like HUD, cup holder and carbon center console cover...etc. Anyway, you gotta help me here. I was thinking about creating a new thread, but I figured it'd help other people if my questions stay here. I'm in the middle of getting ready for power folding mirror swap, and I appreciate if you can clear some things for me. Other guys with power folding mirrors and digital climate control, please feel free to join too. This is the switch I got. It's supposed to be from 180SX Kouki, but I'm not sure
 It has 9 wires, not 10 as you can see. Is this going to work?

 Mirror is good. Total 5 wires.

 It was dirty, so I had to clean it up good. It was interesting to see how this thing works.


 You didn't mention anything about swapping triangle bases, but it's in this tech article. Is yours working okay without swapping them? http://www.nicoclub.com/articles.php?id=159840 "First off, before doing any wiring, you have to swap out the triangular bases. Also, unless you want to use the JDM mirror glass, which is not as magnified as our USDM driver's side one, you'll have to swap them out as well. They just pop out. So first take off the mirror glass. The disassemble the mirror from the triangular base by removing the 3 screws on the bottom. Do the same on the JDM mirror. Now put the JDM mirror onto the USDM triangular base. If you don't do this, the angle of the mirrors are different enough to where you can't adjust the driver's side mirror very far out." Do I have to swap this part? I'm asking you because I couldn't see any difference between USDM and JDM triangle bases.
 Now move on to digital climate control. Actually, what I want is exactly same as what you did. I want everything except auto function for the climate control because I saw the write up on digital climate control install and it looked tough. I wonder it's going to be simple if I just do what you did. Can you tell me what's missing here? I'm sure I'm missing something. If so, is that something I can get from other USDM Nissan cars? If it's too much headache, I won't do this mod.

It was so clean like this, so I couldn't pass.
 A couple of more things. I have manual mirrors, so I have to make a harness. I've been looking at wiring diagram and it only shows 7 wires for the switch, so 2 extra wires I have on my switch will be for the folding function. I wonder what's that extra wire you have on your switch. I know black is ground and "L/W" goes to ACC. What does "L" stand for? Is it Blue? I don't have Blue/White wire. I'll hook it up with 12v power source and test the mirrors before I put them on. 
Thanks in advance.
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| « Re: S13 Power Folding Mirror Install (94_240sx) | 11:01 AM 11/16/2007 |
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Getting ready to do those conversions, sweet! For the power folding mirrors, the nine wires that you have will work, as you already know, the harness that I got had 10 wires but I only used nine. It had two solid green wires and I only used one of them, still haven't figured out exactly what the other green wire was for? Your mirror harness is good to go as well. I didn't swap out the bases, I just took my USDM mirrors off and put the JDM mirrors on...no problems they just bolt right on the same way. I have two mirrors from two different year models so you shouldn't have any problems. I just didn't notice any difference between the US and JDM bases. I would like to know how you got the mirrors broke down, for the life of me I couldn't get mine apart to swap out the glass. I would advise you to do this because what the guy says in the tech article about not being able to adjust the drivers side USDM glass all the way is true. With it's vantage point it just won't let you see the road and who's behind you as well as you'd like. You can see but I would like my mirror turned inward a little more and that JDM view takes some getting use to....things are further away than they actually appear. Let me take a look at my climate pics and get back with you on the climate conversion.
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| « Re: S13 Power Folding Mirror Install (positronone) | 11:29 AM 11/16/2007 |
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| Quote, originally posted by positronone » | Getting ready to do those conversions, sweet! For the power folding mirrors, the nine wires that you have will work, as you already know, the harness that I got had 10 wires but I only used nine. It had two solid green wires and I only used one of them, still haven't figured out exactly what the other green wire was for? Your mirror harness is good to go as well. |
Thanks for confirmation!! I just dropped by RadioShack and picked up male/female 6 and 9 molex connectors and some wires. | Quote, originally posted by positronone » | | I didn't swap out the bases, I just took my USDM mirrors off and put the JDM mirrors on...no problems they just bolt right on the same way. I have two mirrors from two different year models so you shouldn't have any problems. I just didn't notice any difference between the US and JDM bases. |
Very good!! I'd like to use JDM triangle bases because my USDM bases have many rock chips. That's one of reasons I didn't want to swap them. | Quote, originally posted by positronone » | | I would like to know how you got the mirrors broke down, for the life of me I couldn't get mine apart to swap out the glass. I would advise you to do this because what the guy says in the tech article about not being able to adjust the drivers side USDM glass all the way is true. |
It's easy. Just use flat head screw driver and it'll pop right out. I'll take some pics for you tonight, so you can pop it out without breaking it.
 If you break it somehow, you can get new ones from here. http://www.courtesyparts.com/M...-MGLH http://www.courtesyparts.com/M...-MGRH | Quote, originally posted by positronone » | | Let me take a look at my climate pics and get back with you on the climate conversion. |
Cool, man. You should have done a write up for digital climate control too. Or it's already out there and I missed it? Anyway, as usual thanks for all this great info, positronone. EDIT: Maybe base swap is only for s14???? Check this thread. s14 won't fold all the way with USDM base on the driver's side. http://forums.nicoclub.com/zer...13714
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| « Re: S13 Power Folding Mirror Install (positronone) | 11:46 AM 11/16/2007 |
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i was able to switch the right glass but i guess my right mirror is not original? dunno
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| « Re: S13 Power Folding Mirror Install (94_240sx) | 2:32 PM 11/16/2007 |
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| Quote, originally posted by 94_240sx » | It's easy. Just use flat head screw driver and it'll pop right out. I'll take some pics for you tonight, so you can pop it out without breaking it.
 If you break it somehow, you can get new ones from here. http://www.courtesyparts.com/M...-MGLH http://www.courtesyparts.com/M...-MGRH Cool, man. You should have done a write up for digital climate control too. Or it's already out there and I missed it? Anyway, as usual thanks for all this great info, positronone. Modified by 94_240sx at 11:44 AM 11/16/2007 | Thanks for the info, in the meantime this is the thread that I used to do my conversion http://forums.nicoclub.com/zerothread?id=94307
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| « Re: S13 Power Folding Mirror Install (positronone) | 7:15 AM 11/17/2007 |
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I played with folding mirror and switch last night and I figured all out. It was easier than I thought. Wiring diagram from FSM helped a lot. I still have a couple of more things to take care of before starting this. I'll do a write up on top of yours since I have to create a complete harness and replace mirror covers because mines are painted(I left bases in black though).Here you go. It's just a clip on. I've removed and installed so many times and never broke clip or base plate, so you can just go ahead and replace your JDM glass with USDM one. 



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| « Re: S13 Power Folding Mirror Install (94_240sx) | 7:26 AM 11/19/2007 |
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| Quote, originally posted by 94_240sx » | | I played with folding mirror and switch last night and I figured all out. It was easier than I thought. Wiring diagram from FSM helped a lot. I still have a couple of more things to take care of before starting this. I'll do a write up on top of yours since I have to create a complete harness and replace mirror covers because mines are painted(I left bases in black though). Here you go. It's just a clip on. I've removed and installed so many times and never broke clip or base plate, so you can just go ahead and replace your JDM glass with USDM one.
| Cool thanks! I'm gonna swap those out when I get the car back on the road. As far the digi-climate conversion, I just followed the instructions on ericherm's thread completely and it works. I'll try the auto function too someday because I do plan to reinstall the A/C.
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| « Re: S13 Power Folding Mirror Install (positronone) | 6:49 AM 3/31/2008 |
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Okay, I installed JDM power folding mirrors on my car and BASE must be swapped. Angle is not right, so no matter how I adjust the mirrors, I can't see. It's because folding mirrors are from RHD car. You must take whole assembly apart and swap the base which is a metal piece. I'm doing it in this week, so I'll take some pics.
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| « Re: S13 Power Folding Mirror Install (94_240sx) | 6:05 AM 4/1/2008 |
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Cool man. By the way, I still don't have the car back on the road so I haven't been able to swap those mirrors out.
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| « Re: S13 Power Folding Mirror Install (positronone) | 6:41 PM 4/1/2008 |
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| Quote » | | Cool man. By the way, I still don't have the car back on the road so I haven't been able to swap those mirrors out. |
No wonder you didn't mention about mirrors!!! Yeah, you won't be able to see well, so you will have to take them apart and swap the base.
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| « Re: S13 Power Folding Mirror Install | 8:55 AM 4/9/2008 |
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Okay, I swapped the bases, and it worked just fine. posi, I hope you didn't get rid of your old mirrors. You need them. If you just swap the whole mirror assemblies without swapping the bases on your USDM s13, your passenger will see things better than you because JDM mirrors are for the RHD configuration. Anyway, here you go.As you can see, angles are different on USDM and JDM bases.
There's a notch on the base, but it's on the other side of screw holes as you can see. You have to grind it down.
 Outside trims are different too. It's hard to notice this unless you have them side by side.
 I just used a Dremel to grind it down like this. You will have to make sure to tighten 3 screws to secure internal and base.
 Final product is on the left side. JDM internal on USDM base and trim.
 To disassemble JDM power folding mirrors, you will have to cut the wires and reconnect them later. If you remove pins fron the plug, you don't have to cut it, but I don't think that's a good idea.
 All done!!! I put a mirror back on, installed on my car and yes, I was able to see with no problem.
 When you take them apart, you will have to look for the screws because there's some sponge/foam on the back. I saw people prefer black JDM power folding mirrors on eBay, but actually color doesn't matter since you only need internals. USDM power mirrors and manual mirrors have same bases BTW. Let me know if you have any Qs.
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