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Alright guys i guess its time to break the news to the Public...

I purchased a 1991 240SX Hicas hatchback and I am converting it into a Time Attack car for the Redline Time Attack Series, Unlimited class. I am currently working on sponsors and the build process.
As it stands right now the car is completely gutted and ready to be built up into a fully prepped race car.

The raw tubing for the roll cage is ordered and will be arriving shortly. Soon after, we will be getting little suspension bits and engine goodies for this beast, but this is a budget car meant to win races, and not to look pretty. Anyway on to the pics.

Those are just some teaser pics for now. We have a fiberglass dashboard and some other goodies going into this car, but only time will tell how light and fast it will be.

This is where I need your help.. Since this is a NICOclub car, I have decided to open this buildup to the public. I will schedule garage days to get the car built in time and anyone who can tell the difference between a wrench and a screw driver is invited to lend a helping hand. I will keep this Thread updated with garage dates and locations (this car will be bouncing back between Connecticut and New Hampshire)

This car is deffinatly going to be a fun buildup and I can't wait to share it with you guys...

EDIT Buy stuff from the part out to help fund the build up!!

http://forums.nicoclub.com/zer...53703



Post Title: Re: Preview: NICOclub Time Attack S13 (MagikDragon)
Posted by: Heavy at 6:40 PM 6/13/2007

Hope this NICOclub car kicks ***. What are the engine plans?



Post Title:
Posted by: Soravia at 6:44 PM 6/13/2007

I would recommend keeping the interior as much as possible since it weights very little (except for the front seats) It's sad to see a car w/o carpet or center console.

If you plan to replace the dash I would recommend R-hand drive conversion. It will balance the car. If you don't believe me raise the car 2 inches from the back, you will see it tilt to the left side with no driver inside.



Post Title: Re: (Soravia)
Posted by: MagikDragon at 6:54 PM 6/13/2007

It is going to be totally stripped, any weight savings is good weight savings, we will be competing against the Dent Sport Garage 240 and other completely stripped and much better prepped cars, with drivers that have a ton more experience!! The RHD is pretty much not an option for this year, if we feel it is an issue it can be changed in the next season.

Car is practically rust free with the exception of the trunk, but that will all change. thanks for the nice comments and I hope to see you guys in October or at my house to get this car on the road by October!!



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Posted by: Soravia at 7:04 PM 6/13/2007

And the whole RHD thing, I've read a few interviews in the past where a lot of Japanese drivers prefer the LHD cars due to it being easier to shift.



Post Title:
Posted by: AZhitman at 10:04 PM 6/13/2007

Maybe we could do something cool like a "Participants List" somewhere on the car, with people's screen names?



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Posted by: USsil80 at 10:21 PM 6/13/2007

Car looks clean. Good luck with the project.
Can't wait for updates....



Post Title: Re: (amolao)
Posted by: PapaSmurf2k3 at 12:07 PM 6/14/2007

When is the race? If you need help after like, mid-september, I am there.



Post Title: Re: Preview: NICOclub Time Attack S13 (MagikDragon)
Posted by: Bumnah at 12:23 PM 6/14/2007

This car isn't a one time build guys. It will be going through phazes and changes in the next few years, all to make it lighter and faster, this car will be around for a long time and if you can't make it this time around, there is always next year!!



Post Title: Re: (AZhitman)
Posted by: superDorifto at 12:27 PM 6/14/2007

give my cell a call. 860 882 7360ask for Will



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Posted by: CBCUSTOMS at 12:29 PM 6/14/2007

i will watch the thread and give my 2 cents

Post Title: Re: (TRBOMOFO)
Posted by: adrians_s13 at 12:59 PM 6/14/2007

Im confident with my mechanical skills but not too confident with my car knowledge so this could help both ways. Let me know cuz I live in middletown.



Post Title: Re: Preview: NICOclub Time Attack S13 (MagikDragon)
Posted by: kirgondeh at 1:09 PM 6/14/2007

nice first post?

anyways, good luck on the car




Post Title: Re: Preview: NICOclub Time Attack S13 (SketchyRollin564)
Posted by: MagikDragon at 3:14 PM 6/14/2007

I will deffinatly keep everyone updated on Garage dates!!

Quote, originally posted by kirgondeh »

yeah i think the webmaster at club240.com already started a project car. wonder who will be faster.

Good For the club240 guy

Quote, originally posted by SketchyRollin564 »

anyways, good luck on the car

FIBERGLASS DASH!!




Post Title: Re: (CBCUSTOMS)
Posted by: Loki at 4:15 PM 6/14/2007

http://forums.nicoclub.com/zer...53703



Post Title: Re: (Loki)
Posted by: eds13 at 5:31 PM 6/14/2007

Tell him to hit up http://www.240sxTech.com for some DIY's and How-To articles...



Post Title: Re: Preview: NICOclub Time Attack S13 (pafferv)
Posted by: nismofly at 7:41 PM 6/14/2007

rb is too heavy for time attack, car needs to be as light as possible...among other reasons

the plans for this car have been relatively set in stone for a few months now, so nobody needs to worry about ideas at this point



Post Title: Re: (CBCUSTOMS)
Posted by: AZhitman at 7:42 PM 6/14/2007

Score!!!!

It's gonna need a NICO-style paint job... We'll get together and discuss the cost of materials...

Post Title: Re: Preview: NICOclub Time Attack S13 (AZhitman)
Posted by: sr20fan at 3:47 AM 6/15/2007

i had to watch this thread. gonna be awesome. too bad im in texas. i would love this kind of crap.
anyways, cant wait to see more



Post Title: Re: Preview: NICOclub Time Attack S13 (Bumnah)
Posted by: Bumnah at 8:15 AM 6/15/2007

Quote, originally posted by sr20fan »

i had to watch this thread. gonna be awesome. too bad im in texas. i would love this kind of crap. anyways, cant wait to see more

Just immagine how I feel. This kind of crap never happens in my area, and of course the first time it does, I'm out of the country. I should be able to get a few wrench turns in when I get back though.



Post Title:
Posted by: nsrZ32 at 7:51 PM 6/15/2007

How equipped are the garages that this car will be at? The one I worked at before I left was pretty badass, and the owner is awesome, so we could probably work on it a little there, so long as the car isn't sitting in it for weeks at a time. It's located in North Kingstown, RI.



Post Title: Re: Preview: NICOclub Time Attack S13 (MagikDragon)
Posted by: ZL-Auto at 1:00 PM 6/16/2007

Hmmm even if they aren't I know of some place they are wanted.

Quote, originally posted by pafferv »

I've got a pair of New Corbeau Forza seats, with S14 brackets though. I will sell for cheap. Say $200 per seat w bracket. Come on now, you are going to need a pair for ride alongs and such. ......................................................................................................... Or at least thats how Seibon conned me into 2 of their carbon seats LOL. If the seats are wanted, let me know.

Post Title: Re: Preview: NICOclub Time Attack S13 (DJButton)
Posted by: MagikDragon at 8:41 PM 6/16/2007

Quote, originally posted by nsrZ32 »

Let me know if you need anything. I'm down to help however I can.

Thanks will do...

Quote, originally posted by pafferv »

I've got a pair of New Corbeau Forza seats, with S14 brackets though. I will sell for cheap. Say $200 per seat w bracket. Come on now, you are going to need a pair for ride alongs and such. ......................................................................................................... Or at least thats how Seibon conned me into 2 of their carbon seats LOL. If the seats are wanted, let me know.

Are they FIA or SFI certified??

Quote, originally posted by DJButton »

Sean, get this project in my garage pronto, I need a reason to put the padlock back on the doors. But seriously, I'll give you a call when I get back to NH on sunday, I might be able to help out with a trailer as well.

Trailer



Post Title: Re: Preview: NICOclub Time Attack S13 (MagikDragon)
Posted by: MagikDragon at 10:16 PM 6/16/2007

Post Title: Re: Preview: NICOclub Time Attack S13 (MagikDragon)
Posted by: eds13 at 8:04 AM 6/17/2007

Quote, originally posted by eds13 »

THANK YOU!!! now it looks like your actually doing something

seckzing the firewall?

Post Title: Re: Preview: NICOclub Time Attack S13 (nismofly)
Posted by: Ali 556 at 9:15 AM 6/17/2007

1- STI BREMBO cliper + Evo rotor.....front it will need an adapter...the rear will BOLT right up.....

ALL this for 1100 $

2- '06 + ZO6 cliper + rotor....the front's are 6 piston with two piece rotor....and the rear are 4 piston + two piece rotor....

and all that for 1200$. ..the 6 pot cliper is 170$ only. .lol...

hope this help...

Ali



Post Title: Re: Preview: NICOclub Time Attack S13 (Ali 556)
Posted by: PapaSmurf2k3 at 9:46 AM 6/17/2007

I do however applaud you for your mad scientist ideas.



Post Title: Re: Preview: NICOclub Time Attack S13 (PapaSmurf2k3)
Posted by: eds13 at 1:51 PM 6/17/2007

1- going fast = stopping fast...

2- check this killer setup for brakes...:

14'' rotor + 6 piston cliper...



Post Title: Re: Preview: NICOclub Time Attack S13 (Ali 556)
Posted by: PapaSmurf2k3 at 3:02 PM 6/17/2007

All's I'm saying is that is a lot of pizza and beer money right there.



Post Title:
Posted by: SimpleEnigma at 4:27 PM 6/17/2007

7 kg/mm Front
5 kg/mm Rear
15-way Adjustable dampers

I assume they use it (or something very close to it) on their company time-attack car.

If you are going all out on the suspension, I might also consider replacing all the other suspension components. SPL Parts is the company I had in mind for my suspension pieces and they use QA1 Teflon injected solid spherical bushings for all the endlinks. (They also used to have the load ratings for each part listed.)



Post Title: Re: (SimpleEnigma)
Posted by: Bumnah at 4:30 PM 6/17/2007

The corbeau seats are not FIA certified, i forgot about that, Sorry.



Post Title: Re: Preview: NICOclub Time Attack S13 (pafferv)
Posted by: DJButton at 6:21 PM 6/17/2007

Yeah Sean, I need to inquire with a friend about it, if not I know someone who can probably get us a great rate on a u-haul trailer!



Post Title: Re: Preview: NICOclub Time Attack S13 (pafferv)
Posted by: eazye2000 at 6:26 PM 6/17/2007

I can definitely help out with just about anything. I also have a few parts left over from my build. Not alot of Essss RRRrrrr stuff though.

I'm up for traveling. I just need a bit of a notice though. I have two tool boxes between work and home.. Pneumatic tools out the wazoo.. And plenty of sweat and blood to donate.

I also have Aluminum 30mm Z32 brakes that I 'may' be willing to part with.... we'll see.

Give me a shout.
AIM= EazyE4You
MSN= E_APPIE (AT) hotmail.com



Post Title: Re: Preview: NICOclub Time Attack S13 (eazye2000)
Posted by: jspec603 at 7:58 PM 6/17/2007

Quote, originally posted by jspec603 »

damn...this is right in my back yard! Count me in!

Your help will def appreciated man! trailers ftw!



Post Title: Re: Preview: NICOclub Time Attack S13 (DJButton)
Posted by: MagikDragon at 8:18 PM 6/17/2007

theyd require 18s

papasmurf i think youd be surprised how much brake a car like this needs...plus a lot of people err on the side of too much because its like a better safe than sorry situation



Post Title: Re: Preview: NICOclub Time Attack S13 (MagikDragon)
Posted by: DJButton at 5:11 PM 6/18/2007

^^ Any takers!?



Post Title: Re: Preview: NICOclub Time Attack S13 (DJButton)
Posted by: PapaSmurf2k3 at 9:38 AM 6/19/2007

I dont know what a NICO style paint job is but I'm sure I can do it haha. Just keep me updated guys



Post Title:
Posted by: Morph at 10:14 AM 6/19/2007

I think a Datsun BRE style paint job would look amazing

-Dan



Post Title: Re: (240sx2nr95)
Posted by: the converted at 12:11 PM 6/19/2007

I think if we paint it with a BRE scheme my lust for it would simply be too strong. I have an S130 front-end sitting here, at no cost we could really make it look like an BRE car! lol



Post Title: Re: (CBCUSTOMS)
Posted by: PapaSmurf2k3 at 9:37 AM 6/20/2007

Just go into your user cp and change layout to NICO Default. You will understand. Its a whole lotta red and blue.



Post Title: Re: (PapaSmurf2k3)
Posted by: eazye2000 at 11:50 AM 6/20/2007

I also demand photochop/ms paint color scheme ideas!




Post Title: Re: (Fenris)
Posted by: MagikDragon at 5:58 PM 6/20/2007

Quote, originally posted by eazye2000 »

I have a 110v MIG welder with gas. It was the biggest one that Lincoln had available with a 110v outlet. Depending on the amount of alcohol consumed depends on how 'pretty' the welds come out. I've never needed anything bigger than that with my project, but let me know if I can be of any help.

You are becoming my new best friend.

Quote, originally posted by Fenris »

Holy $hit Somthing actually cool in NH. Woots... all i can really offer is the ability to lift heavy things and basic craftsman tools. Unless u need a SE hatch with a bit of rust for free that could be mad doctor'd. I also demand photochop/ms paint color scheme ideas!

Thanks man, the hatch might come in handy, and color scheme like this maybe...



Post Title: Re: (MagikDragon)
Posted by: the converted at 6:08 PM 6/20/2007

Yeah I'm liking this guy too. Will definitly let you know when the cage shows up. No drinks till the welds are done, then SHOTS!



Post Title: Re: (the converted)
Posted by: PapaSmurf2k3 at 9:20 AM 6/21/2007

BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO



Post Title: Re: (PapaSmurf2k3)
Posted by: MagikDragon at 11:11 AM 6/21/2007

And I'm still working on getting that trailer for a weekend at a time if we need it still..

....and has anyone come across this yet for us local peeps? It may be of short notice, but here it is none the less.

http://forums.nicoclub.com/zerothread?id=253865

Keep me updated!
~Eric~



Post Title: Re: (eazye2000)
Posted by: Jables at 5:44 AM 6/22/2007

Good luck with the project. Looks like you are off to a good start.

Justin



Post Title: Re: (SPECINC)
Posted by: MagikDragon at 9:30 AM 6/22/2007

Are you guys bringing the s14 out to VIR in October or what??

Thanks again.



Post Title: Re: (MagikDragon)
Posted by: Jables at 7:06 AM 6/26/2007

Justin



Post Title: Re: (AZhitman)
Posted by: CBCUSTOMS at 7:10 AM 6/26/2007

Hey guys just get ahold of me at Cburch@slfg.net we can discuss the paintjob. I'm doing EDs13's on the 7th.(Bodywork at least)



Post Title: Re: (CBCUSTOMS)
Posted by: MagikDragon at 10:29 AM 6/27/2007

On a side note I am going to be around until Friday working on the car, anyone who wants to help email me or call my cell @203-994-7786 I will give you Directions. Thanks for the support guys

JUstin, I got an email from Shelly yestarday, will be sending it back shortly.



Post Title: Re: (MagikDragon)
Posted by: seejaytoo at 8:58 PM 6/27/2007

Quote, originally posted by seejaytoo »

bummer im in arkansas looks like a lot of work and fun planned ahead i hope it all turns out good.(im sure it will with all this talent bein put to use) ill definitaly be watchin for some updates.

And on to the updated pics...
This weekend we felt like we were spinnin' our wheels with removing the final sound deadening, and removing dash wiring(4.4 lbs of unused dash wiring, and we still didn't remove the TCU and Cruise wiring when i weighed that bag.

We also did some trimming and reinforcing of the Fiberglass Dashboard, and our FIA spec roll cage got shipped out a few days ago so we are almost ready for that to go in.

Justin- I have been in touch with Shelly and will be sending back sponsorship packet soon.

This car is going to be fun and the next few months are going to fly by. Anyway on to a few pics of the car this last weekend.

Post Title: Re: (MagikDragon)
Posted by: DJButton at 9:22 PM 6/30/2007

Evan, my neighbor has a 220V MIG, how would you like to take a road trip to CT in a few weeks? I could possibly pick you up on my way back from New Hampshire.



Post Title: Re: (MagikDragon)
Posted by: eds13 at 9:03 PM 7/1/2007

NOT to throw away''

lol @ the dash

Post Title: Re: (Ali 556)
Posted by: eazye2000 at 5:05 PM 7/5/2007

Oh well back to reading a FSM to know what wires to cut in this thing.



Post Title: Re: (eazye2000)
Posted by: a_ahmed at 7:55 AM 7/6/2007

Usually the people who say "why do you need that, you don't need that" tend to be people who don't have it, can't afford it, or never will get it or something along those lines lol.

The whole point of adding more things to a car (the right way) is to perfect a car and make it beyond anything else. At least that's how I look at it. Not what others want or have.

I really look forward to this project



Post Title: Re: Preview: NICOclub Time Attack S13 (MagikDragon)
Posted by: the converted at 12:52 PM 7/9/2007

Post Title:
Posted by: S13Teddy at 1:05 PM 7/9/2007

(And I dont mean the roll cage...)



Post Title: Re: (S13Teddy)
Posted by: ZL-Auto at 1:10 PM 7/9/2007

As far as what's in the cage it's a hedgehog. He's a little *****.



Post Title: Re: (the converted)
Posted by: hannibal at 4:24 PM 7/9/2007

i have a torn apart ka that i'd be willing to give.....and honestly pay for shipping too. (i jsut want it gone)



Post Title: Re: (spider_slayer)
Posted by: DJButton at 8:40 PM 7/9/2007

Looking forward to seeing this thing get put together. Let me know if you need anything guys.




Post Title: Re: (a_ahmed)
Posted by: PapaSmurf2k3 at 8:33 AM 7/10/2007

Well if you want to be a douche about it, I could argue the fact that bigger brakes add more unsprung weight, reducing the handling capabilities of the vehicle. They also add more rotational Inertia. If they aren't overheating and boiling the brake fluid, or producing brake fade, there is no point.

The point is, a set of Z32 Brakes with a good set of rotors should do just fine. Money saved by going with them instead of your baller 23" rotor 10 piston caliper setup could be spent elsewhere for a better value.



Post Title: Re: (PapaSmurf2k3)
Posted by: ZL-Auto at 10:41 AM 7/10/2007

So, according to your post, bigger brakes make a car handle worse...
but then again you wouldnt put 14" Brembos on a stock suspension S13...
they would go on a fully prepared car to 'allow' for added performance.
And you need more than just 'good' rotors to keep from having brake fade... mostly it is the pad and the fluid responsible for brake lasting
quality on the track.
We run a Wilwood ultralite setup on our Race Car, with a set of Hawk Hp Plus pads typically, but if it is a road course type of race... Hawk HT10 or Hawk Blues with ATE super blue or Castrol SRF fluid. And in this case the brakes overall weight is less due to the 2 piece aluminum hat rotor design and lightweight 4 piston calipers...which means there is less rotating mass and unspring weight on the front of the car...
One other thing....bigger - better brakes, allow you to accelerate longer
and brake later in a turn, when done properly overall lap times will be faster.
And before you go hating...... the Z32 Alum. caliper setup should be fine to use, not saying that its not at all, simply stating that Racing designed brakes are going to be better suited to a "Track Car."

BUT, i do like the reference to a 23" rotor with 10 piston calipers... isnt that Buell Front brake almost 20" ???

Modified by ZL-Auto at 1:54 PM 7/10/2007



Post Title: Re: (ZL-Auto)
Posted by: PapaSmurf2k3 at 4:20 PM 7/10/2007

haha, no idea. I meant to include brake fluid in that list I posted up there. But yeah, I agree that big brake kits are also made lighter as well (lower unsprung weight), as far as reducing rotational intertia... I'd have to see the 2 rotors side by side with raw data, so I can bust out some equations and see if that is true. I thought most light weight rotors shedded their weight towards the hub rather than the outer rim of the rotor. Either way, I'm sure its not THAT significant, I was just trying to make a point about cost effectiveness.



Post Title: Re: (PapaSmurf2k3)
Posted by: the converted at 6:46 AM 7/11/2007

Post Title: Re: (the converted)
Posted by: ZL-Auto at 8:10 AM 7/11/2007

Donate... I like that, as soon as i can get one of the manufacturers
to GIVE (as in Free) me a set... i will Donate.



Post Title: Re: (ZL-Auto)
Posted by: PapaSmurf2k3 at 8:13 AM 7/11/2007

[/Stupid brake discussion]



Post Title: Re: (PapaSmurf2k3)
Posted by: the converted at 4:08 PM 7/15/2007

Fisrt off we got the engine bay and the door openings stitch welded primered and painted.

All nice bright and purdy. Leaks should be super easy to spot now.

Then the man with the engine showed up and droped off the super elusive Sr20 Gold top (all assembly required) trans ecu wiring harness clutch and god knows what else is burried in these boxes.

I'm just glad to see that this project is really starting to get moving! The car will be finding a new home in New Hampshire soon so commuting time between car and people will be a lot less than the 2.5-3 hours that it is now.



Post Title: Re: (the converted)
Posted by: eazye2000 at 5:54 PM 7/15/2007

Some welding

Had to use this because of the person who was welding

Snap-On tool box

Drag ready Nova

Can you guess whats under here?





Post Title:
Posted by: MaximA32 at 7:52 PM 7/15/2007

good luck guys



Post Title: Re: (NSR A32)
Posted by: MagikDragon at 8:49 PM 7/15/2007

Friday night i get to my parents house and start to prep for welding the next day, Mark (the converted) and myself bust out some grinders and go at it, we finish that up around 10:30 PM and then we decided to do some quieter things, like pulled every wiring harness to make things eaiser, we finished removing the last stubborn bits of floor tar and just a tied up a few loose ends, we were done by say, 1:30 AM

Saturday 9:00 AM, we get the car and Quad ready for transport and we drive down the road, maybe 3/4 of a mile with the quad towing nothing but a shell on wheels, yeah we're rednecks. We arrive at a good friend Mike's House and used his mig welder, Mike has an array of toys including a

Quote, originally posted by NSR A32 »

Got it. 68 or 69 Chevelle right?

68 Chevelle 396 SS with 675 HP I need to find pics but they will be posted, His drag NOVA runs 8.80 second 1/4 times with 60 foot times down in the 1.35 second range. He is Bracket racing and has nitrous setup for the car, but has never sprayed, This car makes 967 HP on all motor, He also owns a Harley, A Ford F350 Powerstroke with some minor mods, and a incredibly nice 28 foot enclosed trailer.

Now fo the garage, Freshly built 2 car garage for his toys, 1 lift, and heated floors, amazing!!

We arrive and setup shop, we were give some rules of the house (MIke is a Fireman) so we were told to not burn down the brand new garage. About 3 hours into welding we spraked a little too close to the fuel lines and Set a nice flame show in the middle of the beautiful garage, after a roll out of the car and a full big can of the Fire Extinguisher we were back on the road to finish up the seam welding.

Today SuperDorifto and Fznat arrived with the engine that you saw, incredibly clean and includes a ton of new parts that are just perfect for this build, these include a new: Koyo Radiator, Megan Racing DP, Clutch, Hoses, rebuilt head squared block, and a ton of little nick nacks. Thanks again WILL!!! Thi is deffinatly a step in the right direction. I can't wait until this thing is running and chasing down the DSG car... Someday, hopefully soon!!!



Post Title: Re: (MagikDragon)
Posted by: DJButton at 9:21 PM 7/15/2007

Now if someone would have only capped off the fuel return line when they pulled the engine we wouldn't have had a problem. I blame Kevin



Post Title: Re: (the converted)
Posted by: PapaSmurf2k3 at 8:28 AM 7/16/2007

Bump for the night crowd to get a glimpse of the car.



Post Title: Re: (MagikDragon)
Posted by: Loki at 7:46 PM 7/18/2007

I'll do it.

Oh wait, I'm 2000 miles away dammit

I'd seriously love to man.



Post Title: Re: (Dieselman)
Posted by: the converted at 8:44 PM 7/18/2007

Prick tease



Post Title: Re: (the converted)
Posted by: the converted at 4:48 PM 7/28/2007

Since we decided to start this project we have been thinking alot about the car. It recently came to our attention that we have nowhere to keep the car over the winter! So to address that concern I've started an addition to my shed for it to live in and took some pictures.

one of the concrete pillings and a 6x6 beam

Half of the floor frame sitting on the cross beams

Platform ready for some walls a roof and a car




Post Title: Re: (the converted)
Posted by: the converted at 1:39 PM 7/31/2007

Quote, originally posted by corey240 »

i challenge you to a battle! atu d time attacku of vir...u

Post Title: Re: (MagikDragon)
Posted by: the converted at 11:09 PM 8/5/2007

Finally got the cage and the car together in the same place so that project started.

Dan tightening some bolts

From the look on Sean's face you'd think we drilled through the tire, but fear not NICO readers we're not that dumb (or are we?)

Sean proud that the main hoop fit and thinking the sunroof opening was somewhat cramped

Sean and his most prized Cummins banner

Getting jiggy with the chop saw (notice the safety glasses safety first!)

Well it kind of fits

That is level, but the better question... is the car level?

Fitting the second main diagonal

Dan and Amy showing off their graffiti talents

Dan removing the side impact beams because he loves us and cares about our safety

Some welding

If you know what he's doing tell me!

A little captain?

Dash made it into the car for a test fit

NICOclub, we'll even hold up your barn

Oh no a broken window! I love Sean and his funny looking faces

The easier way to clean it up

See we got most of it

Figured we'd take the winshield out to make welding easier

A windowless shell rolls back into the garage

What's this? Does NICO need ANOTHER silcamino?

Sean looking defeated seems to agree

But what's this?

Just kidding silcaminos are for sissy boys, real men take the whole roof off!

UH OH!

Sean taking a pretend spin in the 240

I just had to show him how we do it in Boston.

Nice pipe!

Tubing notcher was awesome

Look at that fit

A little mid-day exercise

Just look at that cage!

This welder is so much nicer than mine.

Such a fine car deserves a fine seat

So parts are finally starting to get up ON the car but we still have a lot of work to do!

Modified by the converted at 10:42 AM 8/7/2007



Post Title: Re: (the converted)
Posted by: nwmrkt at 11:23 PM 8/5/2007

Quote, originally posted by nwmrkt »

nice work . Does cutting the roof off and re-welding it back on affect the rigidity or anything? Have you guys thought of stitch welding the car?

Roof will be gusseted to teh cage when it is re welded back on to the car, and the car is already stitch welded, look back to page 3(I think) Mark thanks for the update, ( I tried doing it last night but Iserve takes forever) oh well I have like 103 pics from the first day.

This gallery is updated with every pic from the first day until now if you need a recap. http://iserve.nicoclub.com/isgallery?id=5&cat=433

enjoy and remember support the NICOclub time attack car, post up if this is something that interests you and come watch us race it in october at VIR, This is a fun project that there will be more of in the future, so kick back and enjoy.



Post Title: Re: (MagikDragon)
Posted by: bamracing at 7:15 AM 8/6/2007

(For those who don't know who I am I'm the asian girl in one or two of those pictures)



Post Title:
Posted by: AZhitman at 11:05 AM 8/6/2007

Great work Sean, Dan, Amy and everyone else pitching in!!!!

As always, let me know what else is needed, and if any of you locals can make it out to pitch in, I guarantee Sean and DJ will put you to work!



Post Title: Re: (G35Dreamer)
Posted by: MaximA32 at 11:42 AM 8/6/2007

OH SNAP!! Amy you finally made it on the boards with your own name!!! Woot!!



Post Title: Re: (NSR A32)
Posted by: G35Dreamer at 12:27 PM 8/6/2007

This thing is one BAMF! I don't think we'll ever have any problems with this guy.



Post Title: Re: (G35Dreamer)
Posted by: DrummerEJ20 at 2:34 PM 8/6/2007

Thanks



Post Title: Re: (nwmrkt)
Posted by: MagikDragon at 2:54 PM 8/6/2007

we removed as much of the seam sealer as possible, and burnt off the rest when we welded.

the stitching doesn't really change ridgidity of the chassis all that much, it really just improves longevity of the chassis by keeping it all in one piece. this obviously isn't going to be a street car, so harshness isn't really an issue with us.



Post Title: Re: (MagikDragon)
Posted by: nwmrkt at 3:08 PM 8/6/2007

Thanks



Post Title: Re: (nwmrkt)
Posted by: MagikDragon at 3:25 PM 8/6/2007

you are really just adding extra spot welds all around your car. IT really keeps the chassis from stretching and coming apart due to the stresses of racing and abuse.

what you can do is add new seam sealer after the stitch welding is complete and then obviously spraypaint to prevent your rust



Post Title: Re: (MagikDragon)
Posted by: nwmrkt at 3:58 PM 8/6/2007

Thanks



Post Title: Re: (nwmrkt)
Posted by: MagikDragon at 4:01 PM 8/6/2007

real men drive trucks



Post Title: Re: (eds13)
Posted by: the converted at 5:20 PM 8/6/2007

Ed's just jealous, aren't ya bud!?



Post Title: Re: (the converted)
Posted by: future240owner at 8:16 PM 8/6/2007

Quote, originally posted by the converted »

Post Title:
Posted by: Soravia at 9:16 PM 8/6/2007

Damn, I need to call into work or something and get up there and help you guys with that car!
.......three jobs suck.



Post Title:
Posted by: Florida240sx at 5:29 AM 8/7/2007

Kevin I'll take you up on that race, one weekend build and in?



Post Title: Re: (the converted)
Posted by: PapaSmurf2k3 at 8:32 AM 8/9/2007

Amy, Can't wait to see you next week!

Remember, every weekend we are working on this car to get it ready for VIR in october, so any spare hands are appriciated.

This weekend we go to finishing the cutting on the cage, we took it out one last time to get it finish welded and painted. We removed any extra weight in the doors and put sheet aluminum over the door panel opening, and we also cleaned up the rest of the sound deadening. It was a pretty productive weekend with pics to come tomorrow.

Thanks to everyone that came up to help



Post Title: Re: (MagikDragon)
Posted by: G35Dreamer at 7:28 AM 8/13/2007

I might be able to get some extra fundings for the car through Goodrich EOS!!!

Sean, if you and I can get the proposal letter done tonight I can go out and get the pictures printed to make a nice book of the progress made so far and get it in to HR by Wed. we should hear back by Thursday afternoon.

I'm excited hopefully everything works out!!!



Post Title: Re: (G35Dreamer)
Posted by: DJButton at 9:43 AM 8/13/2007

Yeah Dale like I said, anytime you want to stop, feel free!



Post Title: Re: (DJButton)
Posted by: the converted at 7:19 AM 8/15/2007

here's one of the taxis that we rode in. This is a 2007 car with 33,000 km on it

and this is a picture from the hotel room last night

Post Title: Re: (the converted)
Posted by: MeanGreenS13 at 9:08 AM 8/15/2007

Haha I forgot that they still produce the B13 chassis down there



Post Title: Re: (nissanman04)
Posted by: DJButton at 9:28 AM 8/15/2007

Quote, originally posted by MeanGreenS13 »

i would REALLY like to know your exact reasoning for cutting the roof off just to put the rollcage in... ive put many cages in cars, including my old S13 which had a 14 pt cage and i never had to remove the roof...

Alright, I feel like we've explained this a hundred times already, buut here goes.
If we cut the floor and dropped the cage down it would have only given us approx. 3" of room on top, not really enough to get some good welds in there with the mig. Anyway we aren't the first to do it this way, re: Dent Sport Garage. It was a pre-bent cage that we ordered as well, not like we could fit it or bolt it in. It'll pass FIA specs so we're not concerned, and the roof is getting gusseted back on to the cage as well.



Post Title: Re: (DJButton)
Posted by: MeanGreenS13 at 6:04 PM 8/15/2007

MeanGreen, before we chopped the roof, we consulted with different race car builders and we decided it would be our best option. It wasn't just a ahck job(no pun intended) don't worry we are going to properly support the roof and we have a good body man in mind (cbcustoms)

Kognition, your parts look great, I am going to send you a sponsorship email, and hopefully we can win some of that contingency money I actually work with composites daily (ex: Fiber Tuned Intake Manifold) and some other things!

Steve, yeah we'll be around pretty much all day saturday and sunday, swing by sometime!!



Post Title: Re: (MagikDragon)
Posted by: G35Dreamer at 7:21 PM 8/15/2007

Sean wrote a letter last night explaining what is going on and what not!!

Dan was very nice to put together a list of products/ parts we still need and the price of each one.

And I put together a book of all photos taken to show the whole process of the car and the progress made so far.

I should hear back by noon time tomorrow. I'm excited and hopefully we can get some extra funds for the car because we sure need it.

I'll keep you guys posted tomorrow after I hear the news.



Post Title: Re: (MagikDragon)
Posted by: kognition at 11:13 PM 8/15/2007

Quote, originally posted by MagikDragon »

GT Live/VIR is in October.

Post Title: Re: Preview: NICOclub Time Attack S13 (kognition)
Posted by: DJButton at 11:59 PM 8/17/2007

Hence why I wont even be home most of tomorrow!



Post Title:
Posted by: nismofly at 4:08 PM 8/18/2007

either way i hope you can make it out



Post Title: Re: (nismofly)
Posted by: kognition at 3:23 PM 8/20/2007

Quote, originally posted by nismofly »

hey Mike any chance of the Z making it there or just the chance of your s14? either way i hope you can make it out

Man



Post Title: Re: (kognition)
Posted by: MagikDragon at 7:51 PM 8/22/2007

Sway Bars
FMIC
BOV
Exhaust Manifold
5 lug hubs for S13
17X9 +15 wheels

If anyone as any of those let me know, thanks guys for your support!!



Post Title: Re: (MagikDragon)
Posted by: DJButton at 9:19 AM 8/23/2007

Post Title: Re: (Fenris)
Posted by: x240xdrifter at 12:37 PM 8/23/2007

is that right? lol



Post Title: Re: (S14-KOUKI-MONSTER)
Posted by: MagikDragon at 2:29 PM 8/23/2007

Let me know if there is anything i can do for you from here on out..

Thanks,
Justin


Modified by Jables at 12:31 PM 8/24/2007



Post Title: Re: (Jables)
Posted by: the converted at 6:14 PM 8/24/2007

Now I just need to get off my a** and get last weeks work pics up before this weeks get posted.



Post Title:
Posted by: Florida240sx at 7:38 PM 8/24/2007

Keep up the good work and let me know if there is anything else you guys need that i can help out with

Justin



Post Title: Re: (Jables)
Posted by: DJButton at 6:49 PM 8/26/2007

(mini-jack: DJ did you talk to the coupes owner on my behalf?)



Post Title: Re: (Fenris)
Posted by: DJButton at 9:40 PM 8/26/2007

(I did talk to him and I think he'll part with it, I told him to respond in your thread but he seriously has a worse memory then oh, anyone on the face of this earth. I declare... I'll call him right not to remind him.)



Post Title: Re: (DJButton)
Posted by: MagikDragon at 5:55 PM 8/27/2007

Engine and Turbo test fitting!!

enjoy!!

Post Title: Re: (MagikDragon)
Posted by: DJButton at 6:40 PM 8/27/2007

The line up

Dan and Sean on the bandwagon

nice big hole for a front mount

Cut out that hump so I can fit in the car only to find a stowaway!

Sean Flintstone




Post Title: Re: (the converted)
Posted by: DJButton at 6:47 PM 8/27/2007

Rear- upper camber arm's


Front-Tension rods


Rear- toe rods



Rear- traction rods

and not pictured are the solid subframe bushings, they're in the freezer to maintain the proper form until install!



Post Title: Re: (DJButton)
Posted by: MagikDragon at 7:18 AM 8/29/2007

So who is going to VIR to watch?



Post Title: Re: (MagikDragon)
Posted by: DJButton at 8:47 AM 8/29/2007

For sure, we should have a good deal of it finished soon!

Nice, see you when you get here!



Post Title: Re: (DJButton)
Posted by: x240xdrifter at 5:24 PM 8/29/2007

I should be there, I'm hopefully following Chris down.

Lookin' good guys!



Post Title: Re: (Feint of Heart)
Posted by: DJButton at 3:31 PM 8/31/2007

Got coils and steering rack bushings today, still waiting on another package, w00t!



Post Title: Re: (DJButton)
Posted by: Fenris at 11:27 PM 8/31/2007

Brian, you better subscribe!



Post Title: Re: Preview: NICOclub Time Attack S13 (MagikDragon)
Posted by: Zefoxe at 10:36 AM 9/2/2007

Post Title: Re: Preview: NICOclub Time Attack S13 (DJButton)
Posted by: 180sxfaktory at 1:52 PM 9/3/2007

So here is the weekly photo update!!

We got a TON of parts courtesy of SPL and they are all phenominal Build Quality, The bearings are Top Notch and the Arms all have beautiful welds, if you are looking for suspension stuff talk to the guys at SPL, they know their stuff, and they won't sell you anything you don't need.

SPL Subframe bushings!


Steering Rack Bushings

SPL suspension Arms

Now what bolts go where?? Shocker!!!

Kei Office Wheels test fit on my daily

Subframe Assembly

BEEFY!!

2 way diff installed


Assembled engine

Side Pipe??


SPL Tension Rods

More Ess ARRR goodness!

JDM POSES!!!.... or posers??




NICE HEADLIGHTS!!

Awww...

Cuddling with the coils

Stacks anyone??


reading material

the daily...




Post Title: Re: Preview: NICOclub Time Attack S13 (MagikDragon)
Posted by: x240xdrifter at 10:09 PM 9/3/2007

dale, how long or how many weekends will you be up?



Post Title: Re: Preview: NICOclub Time Attack S13 (x240xdrifter)
Posted by: 180sxfaktory at 11:37 PM 9/3/2007

Also those rims look hot on your car Sean heh

I'll hopefully be up in 2 weeks to put these boys in place to get the stuff done lolz



Post Title: Re: Preview: NICOclub Time Attack S13 (G35Dreamer)
Posted by: DJButton at 2:20 PM 9/4/2007

Quote, originally posted by G35Dreamer »

I'll hopefully be up in 2 weeks to put these boys in place to get the stuff done lolz

Good plan Amy, we need some guidance! lol



Post Title: Re: Preview: NICOclub Time Attack S13 (G35Dreamer)
Posted by: superDorifto at 5:46 AM 9/6/2007

Anyway, I don't think I'm gonna be able to make it up this weekend guys. Its my mom's birthday, and she wants to go rafting or tubing or something... somewhere in CT, and at the *** crack of dawn too. There is a 90% chance I will still be drunk from the night before...

Sucks too cos I really wanted to meet you all, especially Dale (yes... he is more important than the rest of you.)



Post Title: Re: Preview: NICOclub Time Attack S13 (PapaSmurf2k3)
Posted by: eds13 at 1:42 PM 9/6/2007

I'm making the call right here for all NICO sponsors who give a damn to make an effort to get there and support this project. Nobody can use the excuse "it's too far!" since I am coming from the furthest place.



Post Title: Re: Preview: NICOclub Time Attack S13 (180sxfaktory)
Posted by: MagikDragon at 6:36 PM 9/6/2007

Post Title: Re: Preview: NICOclub Time Attack S13 (180sxfaktory)
Posted by: Hijacker at 6:56 PM 9/6/2007

LOL You'll have to hit the road earlier than that!



Post Title: Re: Preview: NICOclub Time Attack S13 (tenkawa_akito)
Posted by: DJButton at 7:39 PM 9/6/2007

Dale, you are spot on. Unfortunately most aren't as giving of their time, or products. Dang misers.



Post Title: Re: Preview: NICOclub Time Attack S13 (DJButton)
Posted by: 180sxfaktory at 8:32 PM 9/6/2007

Ok... How about 0430? Anyway, that hour is fastly creeping up, so I better get some sleep.



Post Title: Re: Preview: NICOclub Time Attack S13 (180sxfaktory)
Posted by: 180sxfaktory at 3:05 PM 9/7/2007

I also believe in NICO and the oustanding work that has been started and pushed on by Dan and Sean on the Time Attack car, and this is my call out to you who have pledged parts, time, money, etc towards making this car a reality. There's an SCCA event here at Loudon this weekend, and I am asking why we aren't in it. Quite simple, we need help to get this car done. As for me, I am gonna do what I came here to do, which is be an extra set of hands for the guys, fab up some stuff, give some recommendations and learn a few things while I'm at it. I'm not the king of this; there's only one king and it ain't Elvis, Richard Petty or KT; it's Allah (I'm in the land of Live Free or Die, so I can say what I believe) and I am just grateful that I got here safely to work with the bros on this car (12 hours from the DC/Baltimore beltway; best time to escape that trap is no later than 0430).

Anyway, just get up here, please, and help make this dream a reality. Thanks!



Post Title: Re: Preview: NICOclub Time Attack S13 (180sxfaktory)
Posted by: PapaSmurf2k3 at 3:49 PM 9/7/2007

Here's another thing, over 237 years ago, our country was waging a guerilla campaign against an oppressor who tried to tax us without representation and tried to force us to conform to the laws put out by that same institution. Some very brave men put it down on the Declaration of Independence, all the way down to their very lives (treason was punishable by death in the eyes of the English; these men who helped form our nation were traitors), and they set up the foundation for a way of life not known before in order to form a new society and government that is by the people and for the people. Now, take a look at what is happening today. Get involved with your government and the ones who are elected to represent you and vote. Let's take back our government and get this crap we're in behind us.

Modified by 180sxfaktory at 12:06 AM 9/12/2007



Post Title: Re: (180sxfaktory)
Posted by: x240xdrifter at 7:44 PM 9/7/2007

I'm so t.o'd that I can't make it down this weekend, that sucks you'll only be here this weekend and not the others , anyways I should be down next weekend.



Post Title: Re: Preview: NICOclub Time Attack S13 (180sxfaktory)
Posted by: WDRacing at 9:36 PM 9/7/2007

I used to play hockey in NH all the time as a kid.



Post Title: Re: Preview: NICOclub Time Attack S13 (WDRacing)
Posted by: 180sxfaktory at 9:52 PM 9/7/2007

I was at Dan's tonight with Sean to see what we need to do in order of priority while I'm here. We got a lot to do tomorrow. Again, if you can get up here and devote some time, parts and money, please do so. Dan's provided the place to do this work and Sean has put a lot of his own money into this project, as well. Dan's parents are very cool and very supportive of what's going on. Just a great group of folks who make you feel at home. I'll let Dan and Sean talk about what needs to be done, since this project is being led by them. As for me besides fabbing up some stuff, I'll be donating some new 17x9 rims and any other items that they need that I have spares of. Come on, guys! I know you wanna see your logos on that car! Let's get this car done!



Post Title: Re: Preview: NICOclub Time Attack S13 (180sxfaktory)
Posted by: x240xdrifter at 8:19 AM 9/8/2007

I love the roads up here, you have to go on the kangaMangus before you go, well worth it!



Post Title: Re: Preview: NICOclub Time Attack S13 (180sxfaktory)
Posted by: Black on Gold at 12:29 PM 9/8/2007

Hockey sticks....thats what im talking about



Post Title: Re: Preview: NICOclub Time Attack S13 (x240xdrifter)
Posted by: PapaSmurf2k3 at 1:00 PM 9/8/2007

Quote, originally posted by x240xdrifter »

^ you enjoying the roads? I love the roads up here, you have to go on the kangaMangus before you go, well worth it!

Kangamangus is the balls.



Post Title: Re: Preview: NICOclub Time Attack S13 (PapaSmurf2k3)
Posted by: eazye2000 at 4:11 PM 9/8/2007

I might take a ride up there if you'll be on it for a while. Between the rain and crap...
Give me a call... 352 3O2 6|63



Post Title: Re: Preview: NICOclub Time Attack S13 (eazye2000)
Posted by: 180sxfaktory at 7:23 PM 9/8/2007

Tomorrow night, I'm heading down to NYC to catch my flight home on Monday. Tomorrow, it's me Sean and maybe a few others, since Dan is working in the daytime.



Post Title: Re: Preview: NICOclub Time Attack S13 (180sxfaktory)
Posted by: DJButton at 9:48 AM 9/10/2007

Sean should have some pics of the progress up later!



Post Title: Re: Preview: NICOclub Time Attack S13 (DJButton)
Posted by: the converted at 7:21 PM 9/10/2007

everyone lending a hand

CUT! CUT! CUT!

Dale with the finished piece (dale is the man so order from 180SXfactory!)

Chillin after a long day that we got a lot done

So that's saturday!



Post Title: Re: Preview: NICOclub Time Attack S13 (the converted)
Posted by: DJButton at 8:16 AM 9/11/2007

Post Title: DeatschWerks Injectors
Posted by: DeatschWerks at 12:41 PM 9/11/2007

DeatschWerks is donating the injectors for this car... your 740's are ready we will be shipping shortly =)

gimmie a call (405-415-6862)

-David Deatsch
http://www.deatschwerks.com



Post Title: Re: DeatschWerks Injectors (DeatschWerks)
Posted by: 180sxfaktory at 1:23 PM 9/11/2007

Anyway, as was mentioned earlier, not much in the way of stuff getting done occurred, BUT when one is building something that is gonna be run hard and stressed out with loading and unloading, there's no time or room for slop. We're talking safety first and then chassis alignment in order to extract the most out of the suspension and power plant.

Again, I am most thankful to Allah and to my friends and the bros of New Hampshire and Connecticut for welcoming me and allowing me to pitch in with this project. As for now, New Hampshire is where it's at, and the time attack car is a serious project, so all of you who have pledged time, parts, money, sponsorship and other things, a big up token of sincere gratitude. For those who have made promises and such previously, please go through with them and let's make this exciting project an "all hands" effort. I'm in it to win it. That's the fighter/strike-fighter pilot's maxim, and I will go to great lengths to ensure it happens because I believe in the bros and in this car.



Post Title: Re: Preview: NICOclub Time Attack S13 (the converted)
Posted by: 180sxfaktory at 1:25 PM 9/11/2007

Damn! I didn't realize how dirty my face got, but that's the way it is whenever I'm knee-deep in something I'm glad that you guys told me before we went to Fridays.



Post Title: Re: DeatschWerks Injectors (180sxfaktory)
Posted by: DJButton at 5:02 PM 9/11/2007

Well spoken good sir! We are definitely serious about this, and any all support is extremely appreciated!



Post Title: Re: DeatschWerks Injectors (DJButton)
Posted by: MagikDragon at 6:40 PM 9/11/2007

I"m glad you got back safe and sound, Since you left we've been talking woth other sponsors about a few things and the future of this race car and the team involved. Thanks for everything you've done, I can't repay you. But here are some pics from Sunday.

Some Supplies, Including gaterade, Oatmeal Cream Pies, and Yogo Bits...

The Frame Damage that everyone keeps talking about.

Some more Rust.

This shouldn't sacrafice sturctural integrety at all....

More Leg Room..

Well guys Enjoy the pics and Remember to feel free to stop by and help work on the car.

SWAP MEET SEPT 22nd!!! SEE YOU THERE!



Post Title: Re: DeatschWerks Injectors (MagikDragon)
Posted by: 180sxfaktory at 7:20 PM 9/11/2007

Dale, can't thank you for all the great ideas and thoughts!



Post Title: Re: DeatschWerks Injectors (DJButton)
Posted by: the converted at 6:32 AM 9/12/2007

David Deatsch, Thanks for your contribution to the project as well. Your a great guy to deal with and made out lives easier.

Everyone else, the guys who are helping us with sponsorships and lending an hand on the car have been such a help! If they have any products that you need you should get it from them. Their customer service is amazing.

We should probably put a list of sponsors on the first post so that everyone knows who they are.

P.S. Picked up nice new to me Maxima yesterday approx 4pm, rearended by teenage girl on way to sox game at 7pm. If it weren't for bad luck........



Post Title: Re: DeatschWerks Injectors (the converted)
Posted by: 180sxfaktory at 7:45 AM 9/12/2007

The working document (POAM) helps keep all involved persons/parties focused on the project. Any parts/services/pledges and who made them needs to be listed, as well. Make sure that you send the updates for the POAM out to all who are listed. Anything on paper carries more weight than just spoken word alone. It's a psychological thing. Nobody wants to be looked at as a non-player. Yeah, things do come up, but as long as things are communicated expeditiously, it makes things a lot smoother. Microsoft Project is a great tool to use to help you construct a POAM, and I am sure there are other tools out there to help construct a POAM.



Post Title: Re: DeatschWerks Injectors (180sxfaktory)
Posted by: MagikDragon at 5:26 PM 9/13/2007

Just sent the e-mail with you CC'd on it.



Post Title: Re: DeatschWerks Injectors (180sxfaktory)
Posted by: MagikDragon at 5:53 PM 9/13/2007

I think the vision cloud ala Star Wars The Empire Strikes Back with Obiwan and Luke's Dad and that midget old guy Yoda would be more appropriate.



Post Title: Re: DeatschWerks Injectors (180sxfaktory)
Posted by: PapaSmurf2k3 at 11:35 AM 9/14/2007

Incorporating star wars

Don't get me wrong... I love star wars... but there are some things you just shouldn't mix.

Now if it were Leah in the gold bikini doing the lapdance... well then



Post Title: Re: DeatschWerks Injectors (PapaSmurf2k3)
Posted by: 180sxfaktory at 1:08 PM 9/14/2007

i could have gotten it for you out of a ****ty rearended car.



Post Title: Re: (ca18datsun510)
Posted by: x240xdrifter at 9:16 PM 9/14/2007

hahahaha ya keyword "what looks like"



Post Title: Re: (x240xdrifter)
Posted by: 180sxfaktory at 12:01 AM 9/15/2007

Yeah! I'm gonna be pimpin' my 240SX coupe with a left hand constant turn just to go straight.

Everybody wants to be a hero after the fact.



Post Title:
Posted by: ca18datsun510 at 12:23 AM 9/15/2007

have i donated parts to this already?

yes.

was i called when this was needed?

no.



Post Title: Re: (ca18datsun510)
Posted by: MagikDragon at 6:12 AM 9/15/2007

Post Title: Re: (MagikDragon)
Posted by: ca18datsun510 at 7:13 AM 9/15/2007

but monster does suck, i bet that didnt smell good.



Post Title: Re: (ca18datsun510)
Posted by: 180sxfaktory at 9:39 AM 9/15/2007

We could have saved the car yes... but we didn't. We might be getting a front clip at some point from a Silvia for it and then welding on a new frame rail and swapping that one to rhd... I'd rather have it converted to a Silvia then sitting there rotting personally.



Post Title:
Posted by: ca18datsun510 at 12:56 PM 9/15/2007

im in mourning.(sp?)

my coupe died an early, unatural death, and it makes me sad to see others go down.

i have many 240's, but only one coupe, i got a soft spot.

anyway, im hoping to make it up there this coming weekend, unfortuneately, i dont think the manual conversion will be done on the m30 like planned.

Post Title: Re: (ca18datsun510)
Posted by: eazye2000 at 1:15 PM 9/15/2007

"We can rebuild him... make him stronger... faster... better"- Oscar Goldman referring to Major Steve Austin's 1974 Ford Pinto in the Six Million Dollar Man.



Post Title: Re: (eazye2000)
Posted by: 180sxfaktory at 2:48 PM 9/15/2007

Quote, originally posted by G35Dreamer »

There is a actual street sign now that says New Orchard. At least there is a stop sign now instead of the ATV!!

Yeah! Thanks for nothing! I guess I am not the only one who has mistakenly turned into the antique shop and almost running into it.



Post Title: Re: (180sxfaktory)
Posted by: G35Dreamer at 3:09 PM 9/17/2007

Post Title: Re: (G35Dreamer)
Posted by: x240xdrifter at 5:04 PM 9/17/2007

Post Title: Re: (x240xdrifter)
Posted by: 180sxfaktory at 5:15 PM 9/17/2007

I'll shoot you an e-mail tomorrow I think Dale, looks like we should be work out what you spoke to me on the phone last week. I've been so busy lately and probably wont make it on much this week either.



Post Title: Re: (DJButton)
Posted by: 180sxfaktory at 7:58 PM 9/17/2007

Copy on what we talked about earlier. You saw my post, right?



Post Title: Re: (180sxfaktory)
Posted by: DJButton at 9:16 PM 9/17/2007

Well I do agree but that doesn't mean a 17x8 +47 is anything short of a good attempt at Honda wheels.



Post Title: Re: (DJButton)
Posted by: MagikDragon at 4:27 AM 9/18/2007

the time I will go bigger is when i need more traction...



Post Title: Re: (MagikDragon)
Posted by: DJButton at 5:56 AM 9/18/2007

Post Title: Re: (DJButton)
Posted by: eazye2000 at 7:38 AM 9/18/2007

....oh wait, nevermind. (don't ask)



Post Title: Re: (MagikDragon)
Posted by: 180sxfaktory at 9:09 AM 9/18/2007

That said, 17x9 is pretty small. Most successful teams seem to start at a 275 tire, with 285/30/R18's being popular for a smaller rolling diameter. The 275/40's will fit, but be slightly taller and not truly square.



Post Title: Re: (AceInhole)
Posted by: homeslicej2 at 10:33 AM 9/18/2007

I am going to have o pick your brain about this a bit more, Expect an email from me by the end of the day...



Post Title: Re: (MagikDragon)
Posted by: 180sxfaktory at 11:33 AM 9/18/2007

Quote »

Each track will put different demands on the car, for each track will differ a bit from each other. Just know in advance which compounds seem to be the best fit for each. Tire size and suspension dial in becomes so very critical as the car advances.

You won't be changing tire compounds much beyond having rains and "semi-slicks". Time attack venues all seem to limit tires to DOT legal. If you had bias-ply tires it'd be a different story. As far as critical suspension dial in, small tweaks from track to track may not help as much as having a consistent setup that you(r driver) can manage. Untill you've got some decent datalogging, you won't have an objective viewpoint of what really works, compared to what simply "feels" good. Also, I'd look into better shocks before going too much deeper into suspension upgrades. You'll probably get more out of better damping than adjustable LCAs. I'd expect to run a decently stiff spring once you get some aero on there, and I haven't heard of any JDM/ off-the-shelf coilovers handling anything more than a 12kg spring. Expect to run a 14kg spring up front, and more with addition of aero, which will then screw with your static settings even more :P.

Speaking of suspension, I noticed the aluminum spindles in back. No poly bushings?



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Posted by: nismofly at 1:39 PM 9/18/2007

a 275 up front on an s13 is a big deal, takes quite a bit of work, and anything wider than 9.5 inches wheel wise needs custom offsets, etc etc

s14's have it easy when it comes to the wheel/tire package



Post Title: Re: (nismofly)
Posted by: MagikDragon at 5:00 PM 9/18/2007

That was alot of Information to digest...

PJ, I hope you can make the Swap meet in 2 weeks in NH, I'd love to hear some of your thoughts and experiences..

Chris, we might run some 275 for the first year or so, we won't be competetive until we get some seat time in and see how everything is working out for us...



Post Title: Re: (MagikDragon)
Posted by: DJButton at 5:04 PM 9/18/2007

the next project would be fitting the 275 front, which is a fun time on the 13



Post Title: Re: (AceInhole)
Posted by: 180sxfaktory at 6:18 PM 9/18/2007

In summary, have fun, but again, "I'm in it to win it" Dan and Sean!



Post Title: Re: (180sxfaktory)
Posted by: AceInhole at 7:25 PM 9/18/2007

For the most part, it breaks down to knowing the surface and condition of the pavement, rather than specifying track to track. I can pretty much guarantee you won't see as much variation from track to track as you will from different autocross (like Toledo, which has a directional grain to the concrete. Tons of traction in one direction, not so much in the other).

One other thing: Hoosier makes the A6 compound in a 275/35/R15 size. I'm not sure if the R6 is available in that size, though, but I know DJ McArdle from NY runs that on his CA powered S13. It might be worth looking into, especially if you never go beyond z32 brakes.



Post Title: Re: (AceInhole)
Posted by: x240xdrifter at 7:39 PM 9/18/2007

Even with all of the fancy tools, it will all fall back on the driver's ability. It's just like in fighter planes. We have all these neat state of the art components and we are trained to maintain flight within certain parameters. Some pilots will stay well within the safety zone of the flight envelope, and then there's those of us who will push it to the ragged edge just short of getting outside of it. Pushing it to the ragged edge takes confidence and experience, and theres no amount of datalogging that anyone could come up with to measure pilot or driver performance.

I've been reading up on a few dataloggers just to get current and that stuff is just really neat and would definitley benefit a driver and a team in so many ways.



Post Title: Re: (180sxfaktory)
Posted by: AceInhole at 5:10 AM 9/19/2007

I definitely hear you on the "it comes down to the driver" philosophy, but at the same time it's difficult to adjust a car based solely on a single driver's opinion (and almost impossible when two drivers are telling you different things!). Also, there's the reality that "feeling fast" doesn't always equate to being fast. For example, I like the car to have decent turn-in while trail braking through a corner, so I might raise compression damping up front for more initial bite. This in turn might feel great going into corners, but losing a point of pure grip through the rest of the corner could be slowing me down overall. On the other hand, without that intiial bite, I might be fighting the car too much to plant it into the turn, which kills consistency (and in the end, time).

The great thing about modern dataloggers is that you can distinguish between the car and the driver. It helps to get a real idea of what sections of the course you're consistently fast on and where you have to look to change something. For the above example, it comes down to looking at the log and seeing if my line deviates much, and making a decision of if I can change my "style", or if it's worth it to tune the car down. The downside is: it sometimes gives you too much info.

However, I don't see that as being necessary for a while. It'll take some time to work out all the bugs that inevitably pop up, and you'll be making some large overall changes in the beginning, while developing your driving (I'm not sure who your driver is, so forgive that assumption if it's incorrect). I just hope you have better luck than my friend's shifter kart from this year :P Even the simplest things can be a huge PITA.



Post Title: Re: (AceInhole)
Posted by: 180sxfaktory at 5:24 AM 9/19/2007

Totally spot on that this is too early to be thinking of such things, since the guys won't know how the car is gonna perform mechanically and structure-wise. The whole point is to have fun and to explore the side of the S chassis that most just read about, as well as to develop personal driving skills. If I am off the mark guys, correct me!



Post Title: Re: (180sxfaktory)
Posted by: AceInhole at 10:09 AM 9/19/2007

Those shifter karts are crazy, and TONS of maintenance. Prepping for a race is so involved, especially with open bearings, but generally you do coolant flushes, oil flushes, bearing maintenance, chain maintenance, and hope your carb is jetted right for the weather (and fine tune it while running). You'd never think of it just looking at one, untill you start looking closer.

Then you start to realize, you've got a lot of open bearings on the new suspension parts, and tons of work in an engine, as well as plenty of wear items (clutch, brake pads, rotors, etc) that need attention on a race by race basis, plus attention to EVERY mod you've done to the car (solid stuff = vibration = loose nuts/ bolts). If you've ever been to club races, you start to see how much there is to learn about reliability and maintenance.

Once all that is down to second nature, you can start tweaking

Anyways, I'll hopefully make it to the NH meet. I'm hoping to get together with a few of the "old school" ONE (240sx Owners of New England) guys afterwards. And on another note, I'm on my 7th year of 240's as well, since July.



Post Title: Re: (AceInhole)
Posted by: 180sxfaktory at 4:57 PM 9/19/2007

Gitter' Dunn!



Post Title: Re: (eazye2000)
Posted by: NSR_s30 at 6:26 PM 9/25/2007

Donor Parts! (Thanks Jake)

sombody didn't take his medicine....

fabrication discussion...

we go a 1JL swap(Its super rare...)

POWER TOOLS!

mmmm... Sparks

Look at that fitment...

New parts (courtesy of 240SX Motoring!)

Look at that forhead (he'll give alichia a run for her money)

This is why you don't screw with Bees..

Jakes new toy...

working on many s-chassis' at once..

nice s13's

we had a guest worker..

Red white and Blue baby!!



structural ridgity!!! Yay!!

new frame rail!!! Square within a tenth of a degree and a 32th of an inch!! Ya Baby!

Ichiba Hubs, Swift Springs!

Don't mess with this guy...

That is the Business end of a really nice powerplant!!

nice....

Well guys thats 2 weeks of updates, Look forward for the Meet pics soon and thanks for the support!!




Post Title: Re: (MagikDragon)
Posted by: x240xdrifter at 6:45 PM 9/27/2007

wheres the pic of look in the "bunghole" of the SR? hahaha



Post Title: Re: (x240xdrifter)
Posted by: MagikDragon at 6:49 PM 9/27/2007

Post Title: Re: (MagikDragon)
Posted by: NSR_s30 at 6:55 PM 9/27/2007

Wish I live closer to you guys bro... I need a ride in that S30!



Post Title: Re: (DJButton)
Posted by: x240xdrifter at 8:20 PM 9/27/2007

Those NSR guys know whats up



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Posted by: eds13 at 8:52 PM 9/27/2007

If you're up here def feel free to stop by man!

My cell is 603-738 - 6666



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Posted by: kyles1988 at 12:36 PM 9/30/2007

Post Title: Re: (x240xdrifter)
Posted by: eazye2000 at 7:04 PM 10/2/2007

Anyways, here's a little clip of what happened to a leftover airbag that didn't get sold at the swap-meet we held.

http://one.revver.com/watch/415127



Post Title: Re: (eazye2000)
Posted by: DJButton at 8:56 PM 10/6/2007

I semi-kinda quit one of my jobs. So weekends are freed up a little bit more. Let me know if you need a hand fella's!!



Post Title: Re: (eazye2000)
Posted by: the converted at 5:57 AM 10/18/2007

Eric def try and make it up Saturday!



Post Title: Re: (Soravia)
Posted by: the converted at 10:52 AM 10/18/2007

That's some damn clean dirt in your sig.



Post Title: Re: (the converted)
Posted by: MagikDragon at 9:46 PM 10/19/2007

Quote, originally posted by the converted »

Yeah, there's a super secret high security compound that it's going to be stored in for the winter.

Guarded by Security Guard Mickey...



Post Title: Re: (MagikDragon)
Posted by: superDorifto at 8:22 AM 10/20/2007

First, here's a teaser of the rolled fenders.

Annnd some new parts THANK YOU GTSPEC. Guys GTSpec is a top notch retailer, next time you need some bracing or exhaust parts, look them up, they make parts for a variety of cars and engines, so do it!

Post Title:
Posted by: eds13 at 4:47 PM 10/25/2007

this rant has no point ive relised.....
good luck with the build. ill see you on the strip if im ready in time.



Post Title: Re: (CrypticScorpio)
Posted by: DJButton at 7:47 AM 11/3/2007

Quote, originally posted by CrypticScorpio »

my car has the best security system ever!. fuel cut of switch... time.

Gotta upload those pics you took man!



Post Title: Re: (DJButton)
Posted by: Jake's coupe at 11:16 PM 11/12/2007

Quote, originally posted by DJButton »

OMG Sean AND JAKE posted!

Quote, originally posted by Jake’s coupe »

You just saw me three days ago not much has changed. Timmy says "you like boys"

Hmm rotary boy returns...and I think he is confusing me with another "black/white person". Are you two going to be around on saturday, James and I are planning on welding up the floor and then get together at my house saturday night!!



Post Title: Re: (MagikDragon)
Posted by: eazye2000 at 7:04 PM 11/13/2007

Hope you can make it Eric, I'm leaving at 3AM so I wont be around, the rest of the crowd will be though.



Post Title: Re: (DJButton)
Posted by: x240xdrifter at 9:27 PM 11/15/2007

Quote, originally posted by DJButton »

Man, everyone can make it this weekend figures!

Yeah that would have really sucked... and I'm debating on leaving tuesday instead... hmm



Post Title: Re: Preview: NICOclub Time Attack S13 (MagikDragon)
Posted by: pete240 at 2:47 PM 11/17/2007

If you were cutting away at the bumper support why didn't you choose to v-mount the intercooler and radiator?

Post Title:
Posted by: Soravia at 7:05 PM 11/17/2007

Quote, originally posted by Soravia »

Doesn't that make the frame twist more w/o a bumper support core?

bracing infront of the strut towers does minimal to brace the structure of the car.



Post Title: Re: Preview: NICOclub Time Attack S13 (MagikDragon)
Posted by: the converted at 9:09 PM 11/17/2007

Plus theres a Nismo power brace in there.



Post Title: Re: Preview: NICOclub Time Attack S13 (MagikDragon)
Posted by: Didderson at 9:12 PM 11/17/2007

Not entirely true my friend. You patched it up with beefy tubing though, it's fine now.

I do have to ask why you put the oil cooler in front of the intercooler. I'd favor it going above the intercooler because as it sits right now it's sort of an interwarmer at times.



Post Title: Re: Preview: NICOclub Time Attack S13 (Didderson)
Posted by: DJButton at 10:27 PM 11/17/2007

If you compare the footprint of the oil cooler and the intercooler I think that you'll realize that the difference is minimal at best.

Post Title: Re: Preview: NICOclub Time Attack S13 (the converted)
Posted by: MeanGreenS13 at 6:43 AM 11/18/2007

Ah I see. I was just curious thats all. Good luck on the build.



Post Title: Re: Preview: NICOclub Time Attack S13 (pete240)
Posted by: MagikDragon at 6:26 PM 11/18/2007

Quote, originally posted by DJButton »

Ahhh well, wait till you see how we'll keep that cooling under control. That was the most convenient place to mount it and the lack of the tig in the garage means no welding plates or brackets on intercoolers and oil coolers, feel free to crutique away, anyone. But, are you gonna volunteer the use of materials and tools? ahh didn't think so.

Alright alRIIIGHT. I never expected to get e-slapped by my regional moderator but eh, w/e. I wasn't trying to be mean, it's called constructive criticism. I haven't volunteered what i can because 1, i don't live within an hour or two of wherever this car happens to be at any given moment. 2, I'm sorry once I finish school I'll have a real job and a more stable residence and maybe i will have more non stock KA parts that i can contribute. Believe me, I contribute to my local friends around here, Hatches, clutches recently, we do what we can man. Please if you were directing that smug comment toward me refrain from putting words in my mouth. Thank you.

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Posted by: taco_401 at 7:04 AM 11/19/2007

It's all good man. I'll apoligize for all of us. There's been quite a few "why the hell did you do that, your effing up the car" comments in this thread. I guess we have gotten a little defensive because there a few people who find it to easy to criticize how we are building the car and then cite completely irrelevant experience.

So while we do encourage and appreciate criticism because we know that there are other ideas that may be better than ours, it just becomes frustrating when people are just criticizing because they don't like what we have done. It's just hard to tell the difference sometimes.



Post Title: Re: Preview: NICOclub Time Attack S13 (the converted)
Posted by: Jake's coupe at 9:26 AM 11/19/2007

Side note this was my 240th post



Post Title: Re: Preview: NICOclub Time Attack S13 (the converted)
Posted by: DJButton at 11:38 PM 11/19/2007

Dude, no hard feelings man, internet emotions ftl, I didn't mean to come across all harsh on you, just throwing out a friendly jibe as they say. I didn't think you were really critiquing it that harshly. For future reference though I am king of the interwebnets and am very offended when anyone questions my authoritah!

Quote, originally posted by MagikDragon »

thanks for postin up those pics jake, awesomeness!!! too bad the car goes back to CT next weekend

Ahh, it's not all sad, just think now I can do oil changes in my garage and not on the wet grass. *insert I'm a whiner comment here*



Post Title: Re: Preview: NICOclub Time Attack S13 (MeanGreenS13)
Posted by: AceInhole at 5:07 AM 11/20/2007

The question I have is: why was the floor cut? Extreme seat mounting?



Post Title: Re: Preview: NICOclub Time Attack S13 (AceInhole)
Posted by: the converted at 5:20 AM 11/20/2007

so my 6'3" *** can actually fit in with the cage. Even with the seat mounted right to the floor I'm going to be hitting a little.



Post Title: Re: Preview: NICOclub Time Attack S13 (the converted)
Posted by: AceInhole at 10:56 AM 11/20/2007

Have you tried tilting the seat at all?



Post Title: Re: Preview: NICOclub Time Attack S13 (AceInhole)
Posted by: DJButton at 12:22 PM 11/20/2007

Quote, originally posted by AceInhole »

While heat from the oil cooler may not affect the intake temp, you're still reducing the airflow through the intercooler, as well as the radiator. I've known a few SR owners who've done roadcourse sessions to experience overheating problems with an unobstructed FMIC blocking the radiator, so I'd think cooling should be a major concern.

We're planning on doing some preliminary testing, but I do agree with proper cooling being a big concern! Most early 90's Nissan engines I know of have problems staying cool, and of course much more so when turbocharged as you know. We still need to fab up some ducting for it through the front bumper opening too so we'll see how it works out.



Post Title:
Posted by: veilside180sx at 12:31 PM 11/20/2007

When it comes to safety...you can't be too careful.

Modified by veilside180sx at 12:48 PM 11/20/2007



Post Title:
Posted by: AceInhole at 12:35 PM 11/20/2007

At the very least, I'd ditch the sectioned portion of square tubing and replace it with single bent pieces, although ultimately, with the other known weak spots in that chassis, you might just be better off with a new car.



Post Title: Re: (AceInhole)
Posted by: DJButton at 12:53 PM 11/20/2007

Veilside180sx I appreciate your concern, however I don't really see how your comment helps us at all, and pictures of a different car don't really show whatever it is that your trying to say.



Post Title: Re: (DJButton)
Posted by: AceInhole at 1:25 PM 11/20/2007

I think what he was showing is the large amount of headroom that you can get in an S13. If you've sat in a Sparco Evo seat you'd have a better idea of how much headroom is there (your head wouldn't be much higher than the top of the seat).



Post Title: Re: (AceInhole)
Posted by: the converted at 1:26 PM 11/20/2007

Your partway right, we didn't cut into the framerail just up to it. considering that there was just sheetmetal between the transmission hump and the frame rail, I would be hard pressed to see how cutting out sheetmetal, welding in a new subframe thats providing more support than the nothing that was there and then welding in new thicker sheetmetal to replace the thin spotwelded factory sheetmetal could possibly weaken the car at all.

Quote, originally posted by veilside180sx »

If you can't squeeze in that space then something is wrong. There are easier and safer ways of doing that then cutting out the floor. When it comes to safety...you can't be too careful. Modified by veilside180sx at 12:48 PM 11/20/2007

Do you propose that we raise the roof? I don't fit in a stock 240, nevermind with a cage and a helmet on.




Post Title: Re: (AceInhole)
Posted by: the converted at 1:32 PM 11/20/2007

Because we have never sat in a sparco evo seat......

Post Title: Re: (the converted)
Posted by: eazye2000 at 1:40 PM 11/20/2007

I was going to say... I thought there was one around there somewhere..

Modified by eazye2000 at 5:30 PM 11/20/2007



Post Title: Re: (the converted)
Posted by: AceInhole at 1:58 PM 11/20/2007

Quote, originally posted by the converted »

Because we have never sat in a sparco evo seat......

I wasn't implying that you hadn't, but moreso that it was a viable reference.

As for the structural integrity, I'm sure it's possible to reinforce the insert enough to be stronger than the stock sheet metal. In reality, the cage should take a lot of the load off the frame. However, you're still placing an OEM load bearing structure in question by aggressively modifying it. It's another thing for a tech inspector to scrutinize, and for the most part, I'd be worried that it wouldn't pass tech.

I'll see if I can pass it along to some road racing tech officials and see if they can provide any objective input.



Post Title: Re: (AceInhole)
Posted by: the converted at 2:08 PM 11/20/2007

I know for a fact that maxis did this to their car as well.



Post Title: Re: (the converted)
Posted by: AceInhole at 2:23 PM 11/20/2007

Unless he somehow passed it through a major stretch of:

Quote »

- Fuel Cells permitted (modification of factory floor pan is allowed for installation of Fuel Cell)

But, that was my understanding from the website:
http://www.gtlivetour.com/even...s.pdf

I'd be interested to know if the rules have changed, as I'd gone over them with a few friends running the Redline/ GT Live series.



Post Title: Re: (AceInhole)
Posted by: the converted at 3:06 PM 11/20/2007

Quote, originally posted by SEAN'S EMAIL TO REDLINE »

Hi Chris, Can we remove a hump and make a custom piece in the floor pan to make room for a tall driver (S13 chassis)? Sean Dragonetti

Quote, originally posted by CHRIS FROM REDLINE »

Hi Sean, You can make room for your driver, but nothing that will cause a dramatic reduction of weight. Let me know if you have any more questions. Thanks, Chris Willard http://www.RedlineTimeAttack.com

STRAIGHT FROM THE HORSE'S MOUTH



Post Title: Re: (the converted)
Posted by: AceInhole at 6:48 PM 11/20/2007

Thats good to know. It seems as though they're still sorting their rules, but that's what such clarifications are for.



Post Title: Re: (AceInhole)
Posted by: Jake's coupe at 11:05 PM 11/20/2007

No, I see the point he was trying to make... however those weren't pictures of an S13 as far as I could tell. Your contructive critisicm I appreciate, when people just make random remarks though it makes me concerned as to their mental capabilities! LOL

BTW -OT PJ hopefully I can actually make it to some local events next year it'd be great to meet at some point.



Post Title: Re: (DJButton)
Posted by: PapaSmurf2k3 at 4:45 AM 11/21/2007

Yeah, I noticed there was some back and forth stuff going on occasion and a bit of a defensive tone against most remarks. I'd just like to mention that anything I say is meant for the benefit of the build. I'd like to see this thing hit the track, so it was a concern of mine that it wouldn't pass tech. The other thing, above all, is I'd like to see this thing built safely.

The pics veilside180sx posted are of an S13 coupe. It's actually an open-track car as far as I know.

Quote »

BTW -OT PJ hopefully I can actually make it to some local events next year it'd be great to meet at some point.

I'm hoping to make it out to more than just autocrosses, but work and other things have been keeping me busy. Hope to see you guys around, though!



Post Title: Re: (PapaSmurf2k3)
Posted by: veilside180sx at 7:27 AM 11/21/2007

Ding ding...we have a winner.=)



Post Title:
Posted by: jrkpgc10_07 at 11:48 AM 11/21/2007

Quote, originally posted by AceInhole »

I'm hoping to make it out to more than just autocrosses, but work and other things have been keeping me busy. Hope to see you guys around, though!

Definitely



Post Title: Re: (DJButton)
Posted by: veilside180sx at 4:45 PM 11/21/2007

Quote, originally posted by DJButton »

Doesn't change the fact that Mark is one tall dude. Definitely

I've done that same setup for someone that is 6'3" and 6'5" and both have plenty of room to go, which you also stated that he had long legs which makes it easier because the further back you go the further down you can go with it.

Good luck with your project



Post Title: Re: (veilside180sx)
Posted by: MagikDragon at 9:10 PM 11/21/2007

Blacks are the shiznit! Oh, and nice work!



Post Title: Re: Preview: NICOclub Time Attack S13 (MagikDragon)
Posted by: Ilvemynissan at 10:04 AM 11/24/2007

wow thats gonna be annoying



Post Title: Re: (ca18datsun510)
Posted by: the converted at 8:17 AM 11/25/2007

Quote, originally posted by Jake’s coupe »

hey thanks jake but I have an excuse.......I went to Pembroke Academy



Post Title: Re: (the converted)
Posted by: AceInhole at 5:19 AM 12/6/2007

Yeah, that cage is ridiculously low, and it'll be worse with padding added... I just hope you're not a very animated driver. Hitting your helmet on things while driving isn't fun at all



Post Title: Re: (ca18datsun510)
Posted by: 91rs13 at 8:40 AM 12/6/2007

Quote, originally posted by ca18datsun510 »

wow thats gonna be annoying

Not only that--But will it be legal? I am pretty sure most organizations require the helmet to be below the bars. At least the main hoop.

Post Title: Re: (91rs13)
Posted by: the converted at 6:38 PM 12/6/2007

Guess I'll never be able to race 240s. As it stands now with the floor modified and everything there's only an inch between the roof and the top of my helmet.



Post Title: Re: (the converted)
Posted by: MagikDragon at 7:52 PM 12/6/2007

Quote, originally posted by DJButton »

I guess I could share some of the driving too, you know, if I had too.

Dug through SCCA and FIA rules today. About the only thing that I saw pertaining to helmets and roll cages was requiring FIA somefunkynumber.2001 certified padding where a helmet may come into contact with the cage so I guess I can still drive this thing on a track.



Post Title: Re: (the converted)
Posted by: eazye2000 at 7:29 AM 12/9/2007

Dude, you never cease to amaze me with your awesome wordsauce.



Post Title: Re: (eazye2000)
Posted by: the converted at 12:37 PM 12/9/2007

I'm glad someone likes my sense of humor.



Post Title: Re: (the converted)
Posted by: DJButton at 12:48 PM 12/9/2007

There's always a few fans in a room full of haters.

That was pretty funny though.



Post Title: Re: (DJButton)
Posted by: eazye2000 at 4:08 PM 12/9/2007

Don't worry they are 5 lug.



Post Title: Re: (the converted)
Posted by: MagikDragon at 12:31 PM 12/12/2007

the turbo

Any full body shots of the car?



Post Title: Re: (SketchyRollin564)
Posted by: MagikDragon at 7:07 PM 12/12/2007

I might be there a day or two next week and since its in hiding at my parents house I might be able to show it. When does Western go on break?



Post Title: Re: (the converted)
Posted by: niemczykj at 8:28 PM 12/12/2007