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Tire Pressure Light

Postby CTRogue » Tue Nov 13, 2007 4:48 am


I've had my Rogue for about 3 weeks and my tire pressure indicator light came on yesterday! I hope I dont have a slow leak or something. Does anyone know what pressure the tires should be?
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Re: Tire Pressure Light (CTRogue)

Postby jasonMz3 » Tue Nov 13, 2007 5:22 am

The recommended tire pressure should be on a sticker on the edge of the driver's side door.
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Re: Tire Pressure Light (jasonMz3)

Postby Mander » Tue Nov 13, 2007 9:10 am

I have an issue with that. I looked on the door and said 34 or 35 but if you look on the tire it says 44. I used the tire gage all my tires were in the 30-35 range but the light was on, put the 44 in per the tires and haven't had a problem since. **My numbers my not be exact it was a few weeks ago that this problem came up, sorry if it's off.
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Re: Tire Pressure Light (Mander)

Postby jacko » Tue Nov 13, 2007 11:51 am

Check out section 8-30 in the owners manual. It explains some interesting things about tire pressure and the monitoring system.
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Re: Tire Pressure Light (Mander)

Postby nissantech06 » Tue Nov 13, 2007 6:52 pm

Mander wrote:I have an issue with that. I looked on the door and said 34 or 35 but if you look on the tire it says 44. I used the tire gage all my tires were in the 30-35 range but the light was on, put the 44 in per the tires and haven't had a problem since. **My numbers my not be exact it was a few weeks ago that this problem came up, sorry if it's off.
YOU PUT 44 IN YOUR TIRES? That's the MAXIMUM PRESSURE. You're lucky your tires don't explode. You are supposed to put 33 in the tires, the light goes on when it reaches more than 80% of the recommended pressure.
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Re: Tire Pressure Light (nissantech06)

Postby amr40509 » Wed Nov 14, 2007 2:13 am

Air takes up less volume at lower temp...I bet it is colder now then when you took delivery.

You lose something like 1psi for every 7 degrees of temp.

Check your tires often, here in Kentucky we are having temp swings from about 25 at night to 55 in the afternoon right now, so my cars are set to about 34psi at about 40 degrees. In the dead of winter where highs are lower, I will raise the pressure a bit.


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Postby Ticmxman » Wed Nov 14, 2007 5:04 pm

My TPM light also came on during some cold weather on my trip to the NC mountains. I assumed it was related to the cold when the tires looked OK, it was a bit of a pain to deal with due to my lack of a gauge to confirm the psi. and the fact it occured on the morning we departed. Without going into it lets just say I now keep a gauge in the Rogue. Ah for the days of full service gas stations...oopps showing my age.
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Re: Tire Pressure Light (nissantech06)

Postby rossifumi » Wed Nov 14, 2007 7:36 pm

nissantech06 wrote:
YOU PUT 44 IN YOUR TIRES? That's the MAXIMUM PRESSURE. You're lucky your tires don't explode. You are supposed to put 33 in the tires, the light goes on when it reaches more than 80% of the recommended pressure.
If 44 is the published maximum, than you don't have to worry about something like the tires exploding, unless you had a mis-matched rim size.

Excluding structural defects, tires will explode from under-inflation. Tires heat up as they roll across the ground, and to be specific, it is generated at the two leading and trailing edges of the contact patch in each tire. It is at these two points where the carcasses bends, thus having heat generated from friction. The softer the tire, the greater the flex, the greater the heat.

Why is this important to know? Well if you do a lot of sustained highspeed travel, lets say highway commutes, you would do well to ensure the tires are properly inflated for safety. If you had severely under-inflated tires, you are at high risk of blow-outs, especially on the highway (you generally don't see it happen in low city speeds)

Inflating a tire to it's maximum psi ratings is useful when you are carrying a ton of weight around, otherwise all it will do is lead to reduced traction, harsher rides. The tire simply cannot deform enough to properly grip the surface as well.

A tire exploding off a rim from over pressure would certainly be an issue if you had it comically overinflated.

I had one instance, where our group (motorbikes) filled up/checked pressures before a day of hard riding in some mountain roads. While on the ride, my bike felt unusually rough at the back end.

Out of tight, low gear/high lean angle turns the rear kicked right out as if I was trying to steer with the throttle but I wasn't trying to. I had to stop and check. Turns out my air pressure gauge failed and I had about 50psi (typically want about 28-30). There was no danger of the rear tire expoding, just a very high chance of wiping out because the rear had absolutely no traction.
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Re: Tire Pressure Light (CTRogue)

Postby Chris92SE » Wed Nov 14, 2007 8:36 pm

I don't have a Rogue (yet) but I had a Tundra with the TPS. Check your owner's manual. My TPS light came on and all of my tires had the correct inflation.

I took it to the dealership to complain and I found out that the SPARE has a TPS on it, as well. It had been cold and the pressure dropped in the spare enough to set off the light.

I have no idea if the Rogue is the same, but it's something to look into.
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Re: Tire Pressure Light (Chris92SE)

Postby jaywhiz21 » Thu Nov 15, 2007 2:34 am

I checked the owner's manual -- the Rogue's spare does not have a TPMS sensor in it.
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Re: Tire Pressure Light (jaywhiz21)

Postby nissantech06 » Sat Nov 17, 2007 10:06 am

jaywhiz21 wrote:I checked the owner's manual -- the Rogue's spare does not have a TPMS sensor in it.
BMW is the only companies THAT I KNOW OF that have TPMS sensors in their spares...at least, the 7 series from 2002-2005 did, until BMW realized using the wheel speed sensors is a better route to go than using actual monitors. In those older 7 series, if the spare wasn't properly inflated, your tire light would go on.

As far as the exploding tires, I was being comical. I had a customer when I worked at BMW that put 90psi in all 4 tires...I almost crapped myself.
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Re: Tire Pressure Light (CTRogue)

Postby nrdgrl » Sat Mar 08, 2008 4:18 am

I had my oil changed last week at a local (non Nissan) shop, and I'm not sure what they set the tire pressure at. The next morning I was driving to the airport and my tire pressure light came on. Needless to say I did not have time to stop and check it out. When I got back, I stopped at a shop that is near the airport and had them check the pressure. The guy told me one of the tires was a bit "over inflated". The light still did not go off, so I drove directly to the dealer and had them check it out. The dealer told me that the pressure should be set at 40. That is where they set it and the light turned off.
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Re: Tire Pressure Light (CTRogue)

Postby Superdave54 » Sun Mar 09, 2008 4:50 am

I keep my tires at 40, so that when they are warm they are at 44.

I have always kept my tires at max when they are "warm" for years for two reasons: Best Mileage and Best Tire Wear. It does affect the ride some (mainly road noise), but with the price of gas and tires, I will live with it.

And no, I have never "exploded" a tire. I am not sure where the "TPMS light comes on at over 80% of max pressure" comment came from. I must have missed that in the manual. My TPMS warning only came on when I had my snow tires on with no TPMS monitors.
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Re: Tire Pressure Light (CTRogue)

Postby roguester » Tue May 20, 2008 3:11 pm

I had my Rogue for 10 min. on my way home from the dealer after picking it up the light came on and stayed. Drove home checked the preassure and one tire was at 44 psi while the rest at 33. after adjusting it to 33 the light still stayed on and had to go back to the dealer to clear the code next day
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Re: Tire Pressure Light (roguester)

Postby philipa_240sx » Tue May 20, 2008 3:33 pm

To everyone who has been having TPMS issues: Read the TPMS FAQ. The link is listed in the Rogue Glossary sticky at the top of the forum.

http://forums.nicoclub.com/zerothread/330539

The low pressure threshold for the TPMS system is 26psi. AFAIK there is no high pressure warning. After you adjust the pressure to the correct level (as indicated on the door sticker), you must drive at least 5 min above 16mph (25km/h) for the TPMS warning light to go off. If it does not, then another problem has occured.

Get yourself a decent pressure gauge (the ones at gas stations, etc are notoriously inaccurate), and check the pressures at least once a month and you should not have any problems.

If you guys find anything different, please let me know.
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Re: Tire Pressure Light (philipa_240sx)

Postby AznJohn22 » Thu Jun 26, 2008 5:58 pm

soooo is it 32 or 44?
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Re: Tire Pressure Light (AznJohn22)

Postby philipa_240sx » Fri Jun 27, 2008 3:51 am

The correct tire pressure is 33psi. It's printed on the tire placard on the drivers side door jamb.
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Re: Tire Pressure Light (philipa_240sx)

Postby AznJohn22 » Mon Jul 14, 2008 7:59 am

then why 44 or 40?
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Re: Tire Pressure Light (AznJohn22)

Postby philipa_240sx » Mon Jul 14, 2008 11:35 am

Overinflating the tires to the maximum sidewall pressure of 44psi will cause the centre of the tread to bulge wear out and wear out faster than the outside edges. Although the higher pressure saves fuel by reducing tire flex and rolling resistance, ride and tire wear will suffer.
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Re: Tire Pressure Light (AznJohn22)

Postby roguetoad » Mon Jul 14, 2008 5:47 pm

44 is the maximum *safe* cold pressure. Every tire has a max safe cold pressure that's related to the load rating of the tire.
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Re: Tire Pressure Light (roguetoad)

Postby tikus » Mon Jul 14, 2008 8:06 pm

Remember when your car is moving, tyres will heat up and pressure will build up too. I would like my tyres pressure at 36psi when cold.
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Re: Tire Pressure Light

Postby walt227 » Thu Dec 16, 2010 1:04 pm

Is filling the tires with nitrogen worth it and are the psi's then different?
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Re: Tire Pressure Light

Postby Pescakl1 » Thu Dec 16, 2010 1:50 pm

The advantage of Nitrogen is that it expand far less (almost not) with temperature.
So while you are driving and the tires heat up with friction, your pressure will stay the same. At lower temperature, pressure will still be the same.
Another advantage is that the Nitrogen molecule is bigger than the Oxygen one, so you should loose less pressure overtime with temperatures cyclings (mine don't change and the summer tires are at 44 psi and there were stock during winter in a non temperature controlled garden shed).

So, it is a financial choice for you to make (in the air, you already have 79% of Nitrogen): Either be bothered some time to time with the TPMS light, or pay an extra to get a constant pressure in your tires.

If you choose to get Nitrogen, be sure to make fill the tires from a Nitrogen bottle and not from a compressor (which takes air and try to remove the Oxygen).
Since you cannot empty entirely the air in the tire, filling from 100% Nitrogen bottle, you should get at the end about 96-97%. Doing it with a compressor (starting at 90-95% Nitrogen), you will end up at about 85-90%, which is not really a big gain when you compare to 79% Nitrogen of the air.
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Re: Tire Pressure Light

Postby kerrton » Thu Dec 16, 2010 2:27 pm

In my opinion it is most often used as a marketing ploy to make you think you're getting something really valuable when in reality the benefits are very marginal. You can still get low tire pressure and nitrogen won't help one bit if you have a slow leak, for example.

It definately can't hurt but I wouldn't consider paying for it and would not be impressed by a shop promoting it as a valuable free-of-charge bonus item.
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Re: Tire Pressure Light

Postby 2009 Indigo Blue » Wed Dec 29, 2010 5:16 pm

I've had my 2009 Rogue since late Sept 2008 & my tire pressure warning light must have gone on 10-15 times now. Don't know why. Hasn't been on lately, thank God. Even when I asked my dealership, they couldn't say why exactly.
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Re: Tire Pressure Light

Postby rayjgold » Thu Dec 30, 2010 7:59 am

I had my 2011 rogue for a month now. This morning, going over some snow, my tire pressure light came on :-( Do you guys think something broke or is it really the pressure this soon? I would hate to have to go to the dealer because it is not close to my house. Could i be having problems already?!?!?!
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Re: Tire Pressure Light

Postby takeshi » Thu Dec 30, 2010 9:06 am

It's really impossible to tell just from your post. Pressures do change with temperature. Further, we have no idea what pressure your tires were at when they were delivered. If they were borderline or close to borderline and temperatures dropped in your area then it's entirely possible that this is completely normal.

If you're worried then have your tires checked for leaks. It's certainly a possibility. You don't have to use the dealer to check for leaks. If there is a leak and you want the dealer to address it, that's a different story.
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Re: Tire Pressure Light

Postby sckeith » Sat Jan 01, 2011 9:38 am

rayjgold wrote:I had my 2011 rogue for a month now. This morning, going over some snow, my tire pressure light came on :-( Do you guys think something broke or is it really the pressure this soon? I would hate to have to go to the dealer because it is not close to my house. Could i be having problems already?!?!?!



I've had a 2011 Rogue with 18in wheels since Oct 1 and almost every month this light comes on. You should get a tire pressure gauge. I've found there is a change in pressure. I top them up to 36lbs and all is good.

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Re: Tire Pressure Light

Postby rayjgold » Mon Jan 10, 2011 6:49 am

sckeith wrote:
rayjgold wrote:I had my 2011 rogue for a month now. This morning, going over some snow, my tire pressure light came on :-( Do you guys think something broke or is it really the pressure this soon? I would hate to have to go to the dealer because it is not close to my house. Could i be having problems already?!?!?!



I've had a 2011 Rogue with 18in wheels since Oct 1 and almost every month this light comes on. You should get a tire pressure gauge. I've found there is a change in pressure. I top them up to 36lbs and all is good.

Steve


It turns out that one of my Tires was 10psi's lower than the rest! I filled it up and the warning went away without me having to drive/move the car. that was surprising since i thought you had to drive over 16mph for the tire pressure monitor to kick in. but so far so good! Oh, and the recommended psi on the door says 38, is there a reason you fill yours to 36?
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Re: Tire Pressure Light

Postby philipa_240sx » Mon Jan 10, 2011 3:35 pm

rayjgold wrote:Oh, and the recommended psi on the door says 38, is there a reason you fill yours to 36?


Both the door placard and owners manual state 33psi as the recommended inflation pressure, not 38psi. Maybe there was some dirt on yours?

I inflate my to 36psi as well. It's a preference really as the vehicle rides a bit 'firmer'. Higher inflation pressures do increase fuel economy slightly, but you need to be careful. Grossly overinflating your tires can result in a blow out... very dangerous.
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