my 240sx ford 302 engine changes (lots of pics)

[maik21]

its almost time

[maik21]

one more video to my listhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DRrG3lplNuQ

[jesteratc]

Hello, just wondering....If you use the double sump oil pan from the mustang 5.0 and hammer in the firewall about an inch, would there be any clearance problems wth just setting the oil pan right over the crossmember?

im refering to the pic that nookie2692000 posted showing the double sump, i would probably make a new sway bar in the front.

Thanks, Andy

p.s. keep this thread going. need more info and pics

[maik21]

Hello, just wondering....If you use the double sump oil pan from the mustang 5.0 and hammer in the firewall about an inch, would there be any clearance problems wth just setting the oil pan right over the crossmember?

im refering to the pic that nookie2692000 posted showing the double sump, i would probably make a new sway bar in the front.

Thanks, Andy

p.s. keep this thread going. need more info and pics

no.. my oil pan if from a truck. it was modded in the back to fit crossmember. i dont know how much right engine will fit with 2 sump oil pan.

i dont hammer firewall and engine sits very well.

another thing is im running a oem sway bar with a little of mod.



the black line show how i cut the sway bar... after cut in this 2 spots i take some measurements and resolder in the new position. my original problem with this was because sway bar was hitting the carter wall then driving... i remember the clearance was about .5 centimeters... i never can put my finger between sway bar and carter. the other problem is if u have clearance between swaybar and damper. i had to much clearance between this 2, so i made the cut and paste. if u dont have too much clearance this dont work to you.

and u will have this....

look at oilpan clearance !!!

[jesteratc]

By looking at the position of nookie2692000's engine in where it sits up against the firewall,and looking at the pics of the oil pan, hes using the mustang oil pan from the looks of it, or at least the same pan. it appears that there is abou an 1" or so gap from the front of the pan sum to the crossmember, so this is why i was thinking that if the firewall was punched in about an inch, the whole system would slide back, this would allow you to use the stock oil pan with no mods, and just smash in the firewall and trans tunnel.

What ya think?

[maik21]

you are right but even with those mods maybe engine will sit to high. if u wanna try doit and see what happend. nookie maybe doit . i hope he take some pictures for us =)

[jesteratc]

hopefully he will chime in and give some advice. i found some nice universal mounts for the 302 on a side called Progressive Automotive, the mounts are $225.00 for the pair, but all you need is to cut and weld, similar to just making the whole thing youself. but a little lest involved with a better result hopefully.

In the end i would like to have a kit explaining what i did, and you could buy parts from me to make it, that would be the optimal choice, but if i start modifying the firewall and trans tunnel, most people will be scared off just by that. but if i can build one and have it run and drive for a while, hopefully it will inspire me to build a kit easier to install. But thanks for your replys, its nice to get feedback on stuff

[maik21]

yep.. dont worry !!! this info will helps a lot of people.

[maik21]

new video, sunday 29 sep 2008

16.500 1/4 mile2.319 60

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j0imllmGg-U

[maik21]

i bought another engine, this time its a ford explorer 5.0

[maik21]

engine sits pretty well. maybe engine mounts was designed to be in 240sx . i dont mod anything in the mounts to get fit properly so only carter need to be modded.













i tape video of engine swap and carter build. its not explicit so it will help a little to some people in the swap.

[maik21]

exhaust was homemade... all the job was made by myself in home so it was $$$ cheap !! i need to buy some gas wire welder for proper weld style

[maik21]

exhaust was homemade... all the job was made by myself in home so it was $$$ cheap !! i need to buy some gas wire welder for good weld style

[maik21]

new 1/4 mile time.... 15.342 with spark problems in 4th gear !!! maybe 14.99 for the next time with same setup !!! video comming !!!

[maik21]

some runs were taped. best run 15.342 1/4 mile.

need to work on distributor problems and clutch adjust. u can hear the problem in video. first run was 15.872

video here

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f5Y2X3XeYZM

[maik21]

video link of build.... 302 to explorer 5.0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cVOXvxXLLFk

[maik21]

[maik21]

i found this for 25 usd.



maybe for friday its all cluster wiring done !!

[Kalypso]

nice work, but it looks sloppy.

why didn't you paint the engine bay?

[racer37355]

what are people using for heads and cams on the 302 swap? i have a 306 with ford roller cam 69 model 302 heads port matched and roller rockers that i plan on dropping into a 89 240. i will also be using a c-4 3 speed auto with maybe 2500-3000 stall converter. all the parts i have are from a old project that was sold earlier this year. im guessing the mounts and oil pan has to be modded form stock pieces to get the motor in and looking good. any and all help would be great!! thanks

[maik21]

watch my videos on youtube. i made a swap video and i show a custom oil pan.

well.. im here right now... i was at the drag 1 hour ago and my best time with same setup was 14.64 .....

i need to change from edelbrock to holley carb for better running.

will i drop my time if i use some drag radials?

[racer37355]

slicks DOTs or any soft compound tire will improve your et's. what are your 60 foot times at the track...that will tell you a lot on how the car is hooking. my best time at the track with my all stock motor 2003 stang gt was 1.93 60 ft. i would get a extra set of rims and mount a set of slicks for track only use.

[maik21]

1/4 mille = 14.6460 = 2.33

my best 60 in other runs(worse et because electrical failure ) was 2.17

[Blown240sx]

Stock KA with exhuast intake = 15.3

Its cool that you got the swap done but just not enough power pick up for it to be worth doing.

[racer37355]

ok..get those 60 numbers down!! slap on a set of slicks, practice your launch and watch your times improve. i need to know what cam and heads you are running so i can help you with your times. i can tell you 2 things right now...the carb you are running is junk and the intake is too big for your combo as it sits. i think the intake is for 3500-7000 rpms..in other words your combo is way off!!id go with a holly 600 cfm carb and a rpm performer intake. i think even with a stockish 302 and a light car you should be in the 13.99 range time wise. how much does your car weigh now?

[maik21]

yep, i need to practice my launch... what about a wider tire? I want to kept those 18" rims . i have a camber problem too. my cam is the stock from engine. engine is from explorer 5.0 96-97 .... heads are gt40 ( not gt40p ) . i said intake is for high rev and dont work for me but i run in high revs so maybe its weak at low rpms but powerfull in high revs. im not an expert here. so intake need to be changed? if i change cam for a E303, could i keep intake?

[racer37355]

the cam in your motor will drop off after 5000 rpms right in the middle of the power band of the intake. the e cam is ok but still too big of a intake for the e cam. also if you swap to a e cam you will have to change the valve springs for increase in lift and duration. the gt-40 heads are ok not the greatest but with matched parts can get a 3200 pound stang into the 12s in the 1320. so if you choose to keep the intake go with a BIGGER cam than the e cam but if you go with a bigger cam then the heads will be the bottle neck. my o2 cents of imput would swap for a smaller intake,slicks, and practice.the cam in your car now would work GREAT with a performer intake..1500-5000 power band. now for the tire..wilder isnt always better. im not sure of the choices for a DOT for a 18 inch rim..so id look at nitto drag radials. they arent my choice of tire but they do help.

[maik21]

Stock KA with exhuast intake = 15.3

Its cool that you got the swap done but just not enough power pick up for it to be worth doing.

maybe in usa, but not here in mexico where tracks arent the best.

maybe my car runs better on a usa track.

[maik21]

the cam in your motor will drop off after 5000 rpms right in the middle of the power band of the intake. the e cam is ok but still too big of a intake for the e cam. also if you swap to a e cam you will have to change the valve springs for increase in lift and duration. the gt-40 heads are ok not the greatest but with matched parts can get a 3200 pound stang into the 12s in the 1320. so if you choose to keep the intake go with a BIGGER cam than the e cam but if you go with a bigger cam then the heads will be the bottle neck. my o2 cents of imput would swap for a smaller intake,slicks, and practice.the cam in your car now would work GREAT with a performer intake..1500-5000 power band. now for the tire..wilder isnt always better. im not sure of the choices for a DOT for a 18 inch rim..so id look at nitto drag radials. they arent my choice of tire but they do help.

thanks for advice. i will save some money and try to trade my items .

[maik21]

Stock KA with exhuast intake = 15.3

is this ur time ?