Z32 Suspension Lowering Coils

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These are priced way cheap compared to the other setups I've seen (some as high as $1500)

These also say compatible with OEM shocks. Are these the same as coilovers? I don't understand the difference if any.

http://www.protuninglab.com/ls-300zx-ye.html


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These are merely lowering springs to put on struts. Here is a good read of struts vs coilovers. If you are looking to buy lowering springs to swap onto your struts, I would look into Tein, Eibach or Megan

http://www.1aauto.com/content/articles/ ... and-struts

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Very cool, I'm gonna read all this and might have to wait till I can drop the coin to do it right.

Z-Owned has the full suspension redo from Powertrix and his ride is immaculate.

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Powertrix does offer a great product. It all comes down to what you plan on doin with the car. Have fun!

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For the price, IMO you are best off going with the Powertrix coilovers and adjustable bits for the best performance and longevity out of your whole setup.
Too many people I've heard not liking the way their car handles and feels with the lowering springs on stock dampers, and most also don't get the drop they want as about an inch is the normal amount you get...mostly because the springs seem to settle at uneven heights, and suspension geometry changes too much when the car is lowered too far (2"+) requiring adjustment to align it.
The coilovers and adjustable parts compensate for this and allow long term use of the car on the roads, and a pretty decent ride as well that is adjustable for street or light tracking.
The spring setups really do nothing to improve your car's handling and cheap kits may even worsen it, so the smart money seems to easily be on the coilovers and adjustable parts...

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Ziggy1621 wrote:Powertrix does offer a great product. It all comes down to what you plan on doin with the car. Have fun!
Funny thing is, this car was only supposed to be a stereo car. My actual goal was a high performance hatchback. Stereo installers LOVE hatchbacks! I was flipping a three sided coin with a 98 Corvette, a 2004 Trans Am and the 93 Z32-NA that I ended up with, and it all really boiled down to gas mileage differences which is also why I went for an NA instead of the TT.

.....then I started driving it.....

I've owned an IROC-Z and I knew already the top end speeds and takeoff power the Vette and the Trans Am provided, but I've never experienced that alien quickness of the 300Zx before. It's....different (I'm glad I'm telling this story here so I don't have to explain the difference. YOU guys clearly know)

So now I'm in love with this beautiful toy and want to do some performance enhancements! (I haven't even started on the stereo yet lol)

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If you want a good setup on the cheap, go with AGX Adjustable struts. I have them and love them. Obviously not as adjustable as the coilovers, but if you aren't going to track the car, you will like these.

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Ziggy1621 wrote:If you want a good setup on the cheap, go with AGX Adjustable struts. I have them and love them. Obviously not as adjustable as the coilovers, but if you aren't going to track the car, you will like these.
Are those gas-adjust? And do I still use the lowering coils?

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I'm not a suspension guru, so not going to act like I know what gas adjust is ;) But as far as the adjustments on them, the rears have a knob and the fronts adjust from the top of the strut. You would need lowering springs.

http://www.conceptzperformance.com/Cart ... 24.146.150

How far are you wanting to lower?

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Ziggy1621 wrote:I'm not a suspension guru, so not going to act like I know what gas adjust is ;) But as far as the adjustments on them, the rears have a knob and the fronts adjust from the top of the strut. You would need lowering springs.

http://www.conceptzperformance.com/Cart ... 24.146.150

How far are you wanting to lower?
Sheeeiiittt....I'm a suspension guru like Steve Urkel is an MMA fighter! You probably know more about suspensions than I do about breathing lol

But on the serious, I want to possibly go down 2 inches. I'm pretty much doing a copy/paste of Z-Owned's car. He and I have been messaging back and forth on stuff like wheel size and offset. My wallet right now just can't go the coin for the Powertrix setup (although I most likely will be saving up for it down the road)

But as of right now, I'm just studying all the options and I came across those $75 set of coils and wanted to know all the goods and bads.

What would be the academic difference from, for example, the Megan coils and the cheaper ones I linked to in my starting post?

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Megan springs would be the only springs I would run that offer the kind of drop like the yellow ones you posted. My reasoning being I know the Megan's have been used by many without issue where as the ones posted I have never heard of. Main thing to remember if you drop more than a inch in order to keep your toe/camber in check is you will need the adjustable suspension pieces or you will wear out tires quick (less than a inch you can use the 300 degree kit) If I had to do the adjustable stuff over again I would go with the z1 street upper control arms and run the stock tension rods with upgraded bushings (these weren't out yet when I bought my stuff) saves money and less stuff to go wrong. Also the stock struts won't last long with lowering springs so by the time you get springs and decent struts you will be close to the cost of coilovers anyway.

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Z-owned wrote:I would go with the z1 street upper control arms and run the stock tension rods with upgraded bushings (these weren't out yet when I bought my stuff) saves money and less stuff to go wrong. Also the stock struts won't last long with lowering springs so by the time you get springs and decent struts you will be close to the cost of coilovers anyway.
As always bro, much thanks for the advice. Is the "adjustable" meaning they adjust the drop without needing aftermarket struts/coils? If that's the case, those certainly seem like the way to go price-wise AND the best way to maintain factory ride!

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The adjustable part I mentioned was the camber arms/tension rods; the stock components in the front have no adjustment so if the car is lowered in order to keep your alignment in factory spec you need to get the adjustable parts. The rear does have some small adjustment but not enough to compensate for a drop more than a inch or so. As for springs like you posted your car will be at whatever height they drop it at with no adjustment. Coilovers will allow you to set your height where you want without effecting the spring/shock movement.

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Here is a video that will help clear some things up I think. Keep in mind it's not Z specific but for the most part it's accurate to the Z. And explains the differences between springs and coilovers.

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=biOLaKSC0sM

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Just awesome! That cleared up a lot! Once the new rims and tires are on and the fenders are rolled, I should be able to figure out the drop needed. You went with 2 inches and I think that's where I'll be at as well.

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If you want to see Megan springs, checkout my thread in my sig. I'm running Megan springs and AGX adjustables. I love the stance and the height. You will need adjustable uppers. I've got Stillen in the rear and no names in the front to fix the camber.

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The front end really needs a quality piece to stay together in a lowered vehicle, and even good ones can be an issue if they have any engineering or manufacturing flaws (personal experience here) or they aren't used correctly, so personally I'd say to not skimp in that area and get quality pieces from a quality source. The rear is less prone to the stresses the front has so you could probably get away with any of the rear adjustable pieces at a lower price.

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Not really relevant but I'm just saying there are no 2004 trans ams I'm a car freak so I had to say it lol but yeah I too am contemplating between tein flex or kyb adjustable with tein springs

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I kinda just skimmed most of the post I know nothing about. But from experienced I know that tien s Springs dont do allot for ride height. They do feel pretty good. But because of the old age of the stock Springs they already act as lowing Springs. Haha

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How is your experience with the AGX struts? I've read mixed reviews on them and since I've also got Megan springs I wonder what your feeling is on the setup. I'll go with Koni if push comes to shove, but that's a pretty expensive push, lol.


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