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slownslurious wrote:thats why you should get all the parts you need off the same car yourself so you know you have everything
hard to pass up the price i got the skyline bits at. but the original S chassis parts were giving me the biggest hassle during removal. Installation was easy with little hassle.


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slownslurious wrote:2) 36 mm nut- in your order of dissassembly you are taking off the ebrake before you take off the 46 mm nut. assuming the car has the wheels off and is in the air, you have no way to hold to put enough force on the breaker bar to break that big nut loose. Break the nut loose, then take apart the ebrake.
Big nut that's holding e-brake/dust shield was 27mm and big lock nut is 36mm. 27mm nut came off easy after I soak it with PB Blaster. I hold assembly with my left hand and breaker bar was on the right hand. Here's the picture. I'm pretty sure that my e-brake assemblies came off of N/A z32, but mine still have this spacer. So do I have to cut this spacer off and use it like tenkawa did or is it a direct bolt on to my s13 4-lug upright?


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i think you should weld that spacer you cut out from the z32 hub to your 240's. if that piece move, it will create a problem or it may not operate correctly.

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Do I have to see if I have this spacer already on my car? This picture is from importnut.net. I'm confused. I didn't want to go through all the hassle and that's why I pulled the e-brake assembly from N/A z32 and still I have to cut and weld???



If you look at below dust shield picture from importnut, it looks like they had a spacer too, but there was no cutting and welding involved.

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there is no spacer in his. he got a different year z e brake. i was looking at the shop manual the other day, some z rear brake assembly with a different pivot. wich it stand along with a small pin or screws hold in place to dust plate. i got a set of rear e brake from a 96 tt. the hub looks like your too. today i will use my plasma cutter to cut out two spacers by using the 1/4" stainless steel plate. when i done, i will post some pictures. [IMG][/IMG][IMG][/IMG]

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you have the same setup i do, 92 out of curiosity since you got yours off of an N/A, will the hub mate to your axles? I know my hubs with that design wouldn't. There were more splines on the hub, and it was bigger.

Welding may be a bit hard to do on the dust shield, btw. It's very thin metal, and I can see that getting burned through easily. A cold weld may be a better way to go. I agree that it's a bad idea to toss it in there without securing it somehow, I had to go through a lot of trimming because of that. On the plus side, I know that it won't move from its current spot. The hole was such a tight fit, that it's pretty much stuck in the position it's in. I couldn't even knock it down into position with a ball peen and prybar.

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NO! not to the dust shield, the spacers i made is going to be weld to my hubs. or you can cut out the one from the z hub and weld them to your 240's. i want to post some picture of what i did to my hubs. but i just don't how to post picture here, since i am new to this forum.
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we don't have file attachments anymore daniel, so you'll have to use a service like http://www.photobucket.com

but i'm on board with what you're talking about now.

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94_240sx wrote:Do I have to see if I have this spacer already on my car? This picture is from importnut.net. I'm confused. I didn't want to go through all the hassle and that's why I pulled the e-brake assembly from N/A z32 and still I have to cut and weld???



If you look at below dust shield picture from importnut, it looks like they had a spacer too, but there was no cutting and welding involved.
i think that just the inner shield. not the spacer.

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z3 na hubs fit the s13 axles

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Thanks Tenkawa,




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danielgw2004 wrote:Thanks Tenkawa,


That is some serious s13. Love 5zigen Typhoons.

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110 miles round trip to this junkyard.

Modified by 94_240sx at 8:35 PM 12/23/2006[/quote]where is that anyway? I've never seen a yard with that many z's.

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slownslurious wrote:where is that anyway? I've never seen a yard with that many z's.
It's Mazda-Nissan Heaven in Ft. Worth TX.

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have you cut the spacers for your e brake? if you need help cut them out and weld them to your 240 hubs, i could help you.

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danielgw2004 wrote:have you cut the spacers for your e brake? if you need help cut them out and weld them to your 240 hubs, i could help you.
Thanks for the offer, but I'm not there yet. I have some other stuff to take care of at home. I'll get back on it sometime next week.

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Hey, guys! I've found a great info on z32 e-brake. When I searched for the e-brake swap, I saw some people saying it's a direct bolt on and other people saying modification is required because of the spacer. I really wanted to find out what was going on.

It all started from this picture. You guys know that it's from importnut.net. If you look at the article, they say e-brake assembly is a direct bolt on to s13 hub. I noticed something in this picture. This piece looked thicker than mine. I knew if it's thicker than what I have, it would fit just fine without cutting and welding the spacer on to my hub. BTW, it's called 'Block-Anchor.'



So I went to dealership and searched. Yup! I found 2 different part numbers for z32 block anchors. I wanted to see the difference between those two myself, so I ordered both of them. Guess what? They were out of production and no longer available. Not even from Japan. I contacted several z shops in the conutry and someone told me that only 90 models came without the LIP which we've been referring as a spacer. I was able to locate a pair from junkyard, received them this afternoon and yes, they were thicker. Finally, I can simply bolt them on now. Here's the comparison.



Obviously, when importnut did the swap, they got e-brake assemblies from 90 z32, so they didn't have to go through all the trouble and they thought it was a direct bolt on.

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94_240sx wrote:Hey, guys! I've found a great info on z32 e-brake. When I searched for the e-brake swap, I saw some people saying it's a direct bolt on and other people saying modification is required because of the spacer. I really wanted to find out what was going on.

It all started from this picture. You guys know that it's from importnut.net. If you look at the article, they say e-brake assembly is a direct bolt on to s13 hub. I noticed something in this picture. This piece looked thicker than mine. I knew if it's thicker than what I have, it would fit just fine without cutting and welding the spacer on to my hub. BTW, it's called 'Block-Anchor.'



So I went to dealership and searched. Yup! I found 2 different part numbers for z32 block anchors. I wanted to see the difference between those two myself, so I ordered both of them. Guess what? They were out of production and no longer available. Not even from Japan. I contacted several z shops in the conutry and someone told me that only 90 models came without the LIP which we've been referring as a spacer. I was able to locate a pair from junkyard, received them this afternoon and yes, they were thicker. Finally, I can simply bolt them on now. Here's the comparison.



Obviously, when importnut did the swap, they got e-brake assemblies from 90 z32, so they didn't have to go through all the trouble and they thought it was a direct bolt on.
Hey, how much you pay for them? i got few pairs from my friends shop.

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so much drama to keep the heavy iron s13 hub.. I just don't understand it! now has anyone figure out anything on the lines? I can't figure them out.. if you just splice the lines the ebrake works but not enough to ebrake drift etc.. apparently you need the whole line so that you can bolt the casing to the subframe since it seems to work better that way?

blah... I think I'm just gonna install a hydraulic e brake for drifting and leave it crimped on there. anyone?

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danielgw2004 wrote:Hey, how much you pay for them? i got few pairs from my friends shop.
I paid $15 each.

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its not drama. its saving work and money. sure aluminum uprights would be cool but then u would have to source out more parts. f that thanx for the info guys

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I've bought 2 z32 master cylinders and didn't have to mess with any fittings.... z32 calipers going on very soon.

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hey guys is this all thats needed for the ebrake?

or do i also need the bolt

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wildacexxx wrote:hey guys is this all thats needed for the ebrake?or do i also need the bolt
You will need all of the above plus backing plate(dust shield) and cables.

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source out more parts? its less work. go to a junkyard. remove spindle at control bolts.

bolt onto 240sx.

much simpler.

most of the junkyards around here won't part out spindle parts anyway, and they charge about the same for all spindles. I mean you can pick up 300zx spindles, complete with e brake lines, calipers, rotors, and all hardware, for less than $100 a pair. and then you have all the stuff to make it work right there.

its the bomb.

just have to switch to 300zx shocks (I use kyb agx) or if you have coilovers get the Z32 lower mount.

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DO i really have to change the hub if i am staing 5 lug. Will the j30 or stock 240 axles fit in the 300z hub? (i will have the s14 upright)??

Please.

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I have some update on this. Seen a couple of guys done rear swap on s13 and s14, and they said I need z32 2+2 e-brake cables for my s13. s14 guys will need r33 cables, so I picked up a pair of z32 cables. Part numbers are:

z32 2+2 cables for s13:36530-32P1036531-32P10

r33 cables for s14:36531-15U1036531-15U1A

I compared z32 and r33 cables side by side and found out that z32 cable was 5 inches shorter. If you don't want to buy new cables, you can still splice yours.
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I believe the R32 cables will fit in the S13 as well. I have 2+2 cables in my car, and they work, they just have to be zip tied to the subframe since they weren't long enough to bolt in place.

The Z cables are cheap since you can source them out of a junkyard (I paid $20 for mine), but the R32 cables will be much more expensive since you have to buy them new (unless you happen to just have skylines sitting in your local junk yard)

Also, thanks for showing the differences in the e brake pivot. I'm not sure what year skylines had the extra lip on their hub, all I know is that the skyline my parts were pulled from had that lip. Also, the hub spline count is different from an S13, so S13 axles won't work. I believe the TT Zs have the same hub issue as well (being larger than NA Zs and S chassis)

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I went to autozone and checked out the z32 caliper but they're about 250 for a front pair and 90 for each rear caliper. I saw someone on here said that they're only about 50 each corner. Where did you get those prices. Thanks

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Junk yard shopping. Mine were all around $45 a caliper.


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