z1 ecu upgrade????

[speedjunkie]

http://www.z1motorsports.com/p..._id=5 does anybody know anything about this product i wanna buy one of there bundles but if the ecu i s no good then i will look else were. thanks for any input.

[Zwicked]

I'm not sure about their ECU upgrade, but you yourself a huge favor and purchase a decent electronic boost controller. In my opinion, boost jets offer no safe and predicable control over what's happening, plus it will perform a lot better with one.

[Mossive]

the reason most guys go with z1 is because its cheap...i agree with zwick but ecu is an ecu...jim wolf has been around forever

(look at me talk like i know what im talkin about )

[tg]

get a boost controller with a built-in gauge so you can safely boost at 15psi with your new ecu.

[Zwicked]

Further to this, I forgot to say do some research and get a good, proven, and reliable ECU. Whatever you do, don't buy on price as it can be the difference between safe power or a blown engine nearly as fast as you can say I used to have a twin-turbo. Ash-Spec or JWT are probably the best known and are reliably safe.A poor ECU may not supply the right amount of fuel or correct timing throughout the map resulting in possible fatal detonation.Part 2 is whatever you do, go easy on the boost. What you want is a safe amount of boost for the rest of your mods such as injectors. No ECU can protect your engine against too much boost.In Sask you probably can only get 91 octane right? I would start at no more than 12.5 psi and slowly work up from there to maybe 13 or 13.5 max if your engine is otherwise stock. A full pound of boost can make the difference between safe and dead engine under certain conditions.Can you please tell us what else has been done to your engine from bone stock?

[HKSdrift3r]

I just put in their ECU. Havent really driven it too much that hard, but the car is definately more responsive. I have not installed their boost jets because I think that 15 PSI is a bit too much for a fairly stock car (clutch, injectors). Also, I lost the boost jets while installing the ECU, so that another reason I didnt put them in ROFL. Im trying to find a good deal on an electronic boost controller. If not, then a manual one will be fine for me as I do not need two different boost settings. Good luck!

-George

[Zwicked]

I didn't by my Blitz EBC for the extra boost profiles either, but I did buy it because it works so well. You can not only set and have accurate boost, but the gain control lets you set how fast the boost comes on.Also, you can connect other sensors to it so you can monitor other items.Personally I think it's cheap insurance against a damaged engine as hot-rodding anything does add stress.The other modes actually are nice though so you can set a much lower, or stock boost if you ever need to loan it out

[Z You Later]

look into Ashpec he did my old tt Z ecu worked awsome

[speedjunkie]

well the bundle i wanna order is going to give me a jwt single pop,hyper cat back exuahst wich will be slight ly modded to fitt my 2+2,z1boost gage,and filter cleaning kitt but my plan was always to get a boost controler and i never planned on running more then 10 to 12 pounds and yes 91 0ctane is all we get here geez that really sux thanks alot for quik input i would have responded sooner if i hadnt had to work all night.

[nsrZ32]

You'll be fine with Z1. All this talk about "ashspec" cracks me up....the ECU upgrade that Z1 sells was was designed by Ashley Powers (aka Ash).

[Zwicked]

When you get to 10 psi, you'll dial it up to 12 within days, and then a few days later...well let's just say it's infectious! I keep mine at 13.5 with 91 octane, feels safe no signs of detonation. Really wish Chevron or even Petro Canada would sell their 94 in all of Canada

[speedjunkie]

so the z1 chip is decent? wat are the diferences from the others???? if any? thanks again nsrz32

[speedjunkie]

nobody knows???come on now guys please help out thanks.

[zinistr]

look into Ashpec he did my old tt Z ecu worked awsome

Ditto to the above - Ash is a MUCH better alternative to Z1, and cheaper than JWT.

I wouldn't put a Z1 ECU in my car personally.

[zinistr]

You'll be fine with Z1. All this talk about "ashspec" cracks me up....the ECU upgrade that Z1 sells was was designed by Ashley Powers (aka Ash).

Look up 4-EZTT's TT melt-down due to a WRONG Z1 ECU tune....it'll make you think twice about Z1's ECU tuning after Ash left them. Cap'n Morgan had to do a rebuild ground up...pistons shock, plugs melted.

I'll stick with Ash's ECU.

[Mossive]

You'll be fine with Z1. All this talk about "ashspec" cracks me up....the ECU upgrade that Z1 sells was was designed by Ashley Powers (aka Ash).

so zinster or nsrz32?

[Zwicked]

I didn't want to be the first to say it, but from the many posts out there, it would seem the Z1 ECU does have it's challenges, and I don't think I have seen any posts of Ash's stuff causing major issues.I bought Ash's ZEMulator which pretty much makes any upgrade I'll ever do future-proof, plus he gives good product support.The JWT one is also excellent, but it is more expensive than the Ash chip.Not to re-route the post, but do a search on http://www.twinturbo.net. search the posts for different ECU brands, and draw your own conclusion.Like zinister points out, a bad ECU can have devastatingly expensive results.

[Mossive]

so where can we get ash's chips?

[Zwicked]

Here: http://www.ashspecz.com/ashspec/ashspec.htm

[Mossive]

thanks...looks like quite a deal..plug and go or have to have someone install professionally

[Zwicked]

Quite simple. The socketed ECU w/chip takes 10 minutes to install. If you can afford it, buy a good electronic boost controller though as opposed to using boost jets. You won't regret it.

[nsrZ32]

IMO you will be equally fine with JWT, Z1, or Ash's chip.

Go with what works for you. There are good and bad stories out there about every single one.

[Mossive]

what do you look for when purchasing a boost controller?

[jwnoodle]

what do you look for when purchasing a boost controller?

= a cheap one and also one that is easily tunable.

I have always been told that JWT has a much safer tune to prevent detonation, where as ASH is more agressive to get your Z to more of its full potential.

[HKSdrift3r]

what do you look for when purchasing a boost controller?

I got a Hallman Pro RX that is sitting around unopened. If you want it, lemme know!

-George

[Mossive]

send me some info

[c_wood52]

Hey does Z1 still tune their ECUS? I've sent them a few emails about getting tuned to E85 with no response. Should I switch?

[zxFarside]

Z1 is really bad about emails.

Also, I would look into ztuner for a tune. Harry does good work.

[itsa300zx]

Z1 is really bad about emails.

Also, I would look into ztuner for a tune. Harry does good work.

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I wouldn't put a Z1 ECU in my car personally.

I wouldn't put z1 stuff in my car either.

Specialty Z is also a great option.

[Zinprogress]

cant vouch for z1 or any other company for that matter but what i can offer is experience on tuners and ecu upgrades on other makes and models. Off the shelf tunes are usually pretty lame, little more boost with an increase in timing down low and a super small ultra conservative timing increase in the power band area and more fuel all over. It doesnt take much to get a bit more "safe" power out of a turbocharched car and no company wants to be known for "blowing peoples s*** up" so they stick to a pretty simple formula that works on the majority of vehicles they test their tunes on.

No tune will be as exciting or as "safe" as the one thats tailored for your particular motor and setup.