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Well what can I say I am a newb to Nissans and I have seen the light...I am dumping all my Honda stuff...and I am buying a 240sx 95 and up. Are there any advantages to getting any particular model? Also I am doing the swap right away and want to know if the extra money spent on the s14 blacktop engine is worth it...over the s13 redtop? Please no flames or stupid responses..I am new to Nissan not to turbo. I know the differences between the two motors being a bigger turbo and the valve timing thing. SO is a $1000 difference worth it or can I get the red top and spend the $1000 difference on upgrading the s13 engine? Your time and knowledge is appreciated.


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I am doing the same thing! I am dumping my Honda stuff too. I already got my friends 92 240SX SE. Now I just gotta sell my car + parts to get the SR swap. I hope I am doing the right thing! I sure will miss my car

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Personally, I do not think that the S14 motor is worth the extra money. Buy an S13 motor and put that difference towards a turbo upgrade, suspension, or whatever else. If you want a newer motor, then buy the S13 blacktop instead of redtop.

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makes sense.

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Yeah S13 with a (S15 SR) T28 should be just about the price of the stock S14 SR and you'd be making more power in the long run.

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So tell us about your Honda your are getting rid of, or have sold. I am guessing from your name that you had a turbo on it. What motivated you to leave? We can make this the officalg "Going from Honda to Nissan thread". :D

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<--{sighs}

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actually still tryign to sell the shell(97hatch) and various parts...take a look

IM is KEY!! addikted2boost

Cat, bends, pipe, N1 Canister all 3" all stainless-$490 pick ups only sorry

Resistor Box-$35 shipped

JDM ITR (red) valvecover-$130 shipped

GM 3 Bar Map sensor- $50 shipped

ARP Head stud kit for b18c- sold

Greddy Type 24 Intercooler-$500 shipped.

Brand New Hondata 2b- $450 shipped

OBD1 Ecu socketed for Hondata $175 shipped

AEM Siver Rail $95 shipped

AEM silver FPR-$130 shipped

Denso 600cc Injectors(balanced and blueprinted)- sold

CTR cams $425 shipped

SKunk 2 GSR Intake manifold $275 shipped

98 GSR Head(no cams) with Distriutor and new ITR vlave train-$800 shipped

96 EX harness converted to obd1 plugs $150

South Florida Performance B series manifold $360 shipped

Brand NEw Tial 35mm HP wastegate in Red-$225 shipped

Used HKS super sequential bov- soldHolley In Tank Turbo fuel pump(ask me about cars it fits)$100 shipped

Eagle b18b rods $320 shipped

2000 Si Gauge CLuster - sold

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why would u waste our space with that list of parts? We dont have any need for you to list your honda parts, and its just cluttering the thread...charlies honda site: http://www.b20vtec.com

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some people do own more than one car. and who knows? You didnt even provide any info or suggestions to my original post so why bother complaining about cluttering up the thread.

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turbocarslut wrote:Well what can I say I am a newb to Nissans and I have seen the light...I am dumping all my Honda stuff...and I am buying a 240sx 95 and up. Are there any advantages to getting any particular model? Also I am doing the swap right away and want to know if the extra money spent on the s14 blacktop engine is worth it...over the s13 redtop? Please no flames or stupid responses..I am new to Nissan not to turbo. I know the differences between the two motors being a bigger turbo and the valve timing thing. SO is a $1000 difference worth it or can I get the red top and spend the $1000 difference on upgrading the s13 engine? Your time and knowledge is appreciated.


Yes, 97-98 240's are nicer in my opinion, due to the style of the headlights...100% better than 95-96 240's as far as looks, IMO.

if going high HP i would say get a S13 due to the High port head design, vs the low port of the s14, and S15 motors....Get the S13 and use the extra money to upgrade...if you want a newer motor get a s13 blacktop......

if someone is doing a stock swap i usually say s14, but you seem to have 'plans' so id say just take the s13 and start building : )

ps, i was messing with you about the parts list...i could care less if you took up all the space on the board, hehe-

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S13 Redtop. Screw the VVT (doesn't matter much in a built boosted application anyway), and keep the highport design.

Spend the extra money on brakes (why doesn't anyone ever talk about brake upgrades? They'll make you faster around the track than power will.. sigh...) and suspension.

Good luck - and you should keep the hatch and build a collection. :)

<- Former owner '99 Civic Si'93 MB FD base with rotors, boost, and stuff'92 240SX base with nuthin' yet (hey, I bought it Sunday, ok?)

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The only problem i found with putting an s13 sr in an s14 is you will have to buy extra things that can cost over the $1000 dollars that you would be saving just to get the engine running in the car. You should look into what you would have to get and have done and then decide if you can handle it yourself or pay the extra money and have someone else do it.

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Puttin an S13 motor in a S14 chasis should be illegal!!!!But oh well whatever rocks your boat....I'm just that type of a person who wouldnt be able to sleep knowing the wrong kind of engine sits in my engine bay.

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you are not making any sense.

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anyways, changing the subject so this doesn't turn into a flame war.......

Can you upgrade to say a t3/t4 turbo on a notch top sr without aftermarket cams??? Or does the VTC in the notch top motors not allow for proper tuning???

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most def, go with the S13 SR, more monies to upgrade...

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what extra parts do you have to buy to get the S13 motor to run in an S14?

Why would you never do that? I would be able to "sleep" fine knowing my engine is turbo, and has like 60k less on it. Plus you don't get the pesky vtc, but the benefit of the high flow manifold.

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well the wrong engine sits in your engine bay if you put a sr20det of any type of it remember you have a 240sx.

put a blacktop into a s14. keep the high port. get nissdata. ride taht ***** out

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when is Nissdata going to be available for consumers.? SO you are saying get a s14 blacktop...I heard the s13 without it is better..for bigger horsepower? Also read only worth getting s14 engine if I am gonna remain with the stock turbo..which I most likely wont.

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No, S13 blacktop.

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hey im doing the same thing, well sorta. ditching my 2000 civic Si and am gonna get a 240 with an sr swap. i am thinking about an s13 with an s13 blacktop motor. just because its cheaper and leaves me with more money to upgrade. so anyway just thought id join in with the others who have "seen the light":D

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yea, maybe if we all start selling our SR's, and start building up KIA"S, the honda boys will jump on that bandwagon too !!!!

: )

sr for sale, buying a KIA, supercharged, and awd conversion coming soon...

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i hate every sr owner that put their car in superstreet, scc, import tuner, and maybe turbo magazine now...it was fun to have an sr...i really dont care anymore, and i would trade it for a built KA now....if i was to do it all again, i think i would go with a KA+T...and i think a lot of 240 guys are starting to lean that way...and the honda camps are starting to get SR's...in three years, i think people will be going with KA+T's in their 240's.the sr is definitly great, but lost a lot of the hype...

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(exept my Sr had 19,000 miles and my KA had 145,000, so i didnt have that much of a choice : ) )

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For a guy who knows a lot about Nissan's your comments are pretty closed minded. WHY hate every sr owner in the mags...what is Nissan something that should be kept a secret or something? I dont know anyhting about the turbocharged KA so I cant comment on that. But about the whole Honda camp jumping on SR's well let me tell you what a relief it is to go buy an TURBO engine that will swap into a car with no use of stupid aftermarket mount kits, useless weak trannies and EXCESSIVELY overpriced engines. Honda sells...they sell cars, images, products they are cash cows for anyone in the business of upgrading cars. I just went and picked up a complete ecu, harness, transmission, sr20det black top for $2400. What would $2400 have bought me in the Honda world..well lets see: At most an LS swap, which has a measly 145 flywheel horsepower, a sh!tty transmission, and some mounts that might not even work. SO when you say the sr lost its "hype" think again! A cheap fast car is more than just HYPE!
I H8 UR DSM wrote:i hate every sr owner that put their car in superstreet, scc, import tuner, and maybe turbo magazine now...it was fun to have an sr...i really dont care anymore, and i would trade it for a built KA now....if i was to do it all again, i think i would go with a KA+T...and i think a lot of 240 guys are starting to lean that way...and the honda camps are starting to get SR's...in three years, i think people will be going with KA+T's in their 240's.the sr is definitly great, but lost a lot of the hype...

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for $2400 you can get twice the amount of honda parts than 240 parts....i would i can get a H22+turbo done for around the 2400 mark : )

ok, i dont hate them...but i dont think 1/2 of them are well respected around the community...(exept chris may).

sorry for the negativity, im working on that :)

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right on brotha, ive wanted to do the sr swap years before i bought my honda. i just never realize how easy it was and how great the swap was. i figured if i did it then i would run into a lot of complications and it would cost me a lot of money. thankfully i found this site where most of you are cool and know what you are talking about. im still gonna do the swap and hopefully gain acceptance but hey whatever, if you guys wanna have periods about others doing what you have done so be it. its just going to keep getting more popular and your ideas arent going to change much. so give it a rest.

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sr20wannabe wrote:most of you are cool and know what you are talking about.


maybe someday i can be part of that list ;)

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I H8 UR DSM wrote:for $2400 you can get twice the amount of honda parts than 240 parts....i would i can get a H22+turbo done for around the 2400 mark : )


and h22 turbo for $2400?...where are you getting stuff...first of all the engine and transmission is gonan run you $2100...plus $500 for a mount kit...$500 for a manifold...$500 for a turbo...$700 for a hondata..$250 on a wastegate...$200 on bov...no tto mention custom 3" piping, and custon IC piping...bigger injectors..the list goes on and on...trust me...and all that to still have a weak STOCK engine...thats what I am saying...the sr is a turbo engine...arent you the one pushing 400hp on a stock sr...try that on a honda motor...:) Not trying to be a machisto or anything...just pointing out the MAIN reason why I left Honda.


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