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SDRonEbay
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Have you ever heard the phrase, "If you can read, you can achieve." Well, your literacy is the best defense you have at a dealership. I cannot stress to customers enough.... study, study, and study. Don't take anything for granted and don't let buying a car be based on emotion. I'm going to give you some, hopefully, helpful advice about the purchase of your next vehicle.

Don't think about your last buying experience when preparing for your next. Block it from your head, whether it was good or bad. Whether you bought new or used. Whether you had good credit or bad. Don't let anything from your last deal become a factor in your next. The fact is, you really don't know if you got scammed or not. Why would you run the risk of it happening twice?

Now your ready to begin what I call "The Road to the Purchase"

Step 1. - Manufacturers make hundreds of thousands of cars and trucks each year. Come to reason that one of the millions of people buying might have the same tastes as you. Don't get stuck on a color. Let your needs outweigh your wants. This way a real salesperson can be more helpful to you and it's easy to weed out the scammers. (From this point on a bad salesperson will be referred to as Ernie and a good one will be referred to as Jayson :D)

Step 2. - Utilize the box plugged into the wall in front of you right now to quickly surf around the world in search for comparison information, local tax rates, safety standards, packages, options, manufacturer statements and warranties, even invoices. Don't be a Slow Poke McGoke. At least act like you’re about to spend ten, twenty or thirty thousand dollars.

Step 3. - Don't hide information from your salesperson. True, Ernie would like to use information against you. But you could possibly miss out on a good deal if Jason doesn't have enough. Now, I know some of you like to shop around the hard way...You walk into a dealer, point at a vehicle and then you utter these words...."I want your bottom line price." I say to you...."Bottom line MSRP." How would you like it if someone came into Old Navy and pointed out some drawstring pants and said, "I want your bottom line price."? Look, that's just not how business is run. You want Ernie to be a professional but you come at him with a very unprofessional attitude.

Step 4. - Get your financial affairs in the best order you can before you go to a dealer. Let me tell you something, if you are even one payment behind on your $450 mortgage...do you really expect a lender to believe you're going to be able to pay a $450 car note as well? That's the quickest way to get turned down. Make sure your bills are in order before you come to a dealer. It'll save you a little embarrassment and a lot of time.

Step 5. - Keep in mind that you might have to present documents. Gather pay stubs, bills, personal and credit references, phone numbers, registration, insurance, title if you have it and three years of residence and work history. We'll call this a Stipulation Package or Stips for short.

Step 6. - Make yourself go to a dealer during regular business hours for an "Information Day." This is the day that you actually spend a couple of hours accruing as much info as you can about the vehicle you want, lenders, incentives, payment options, all your numbers and distinguishing whether you're dealing with an Ernie or a Jason. When you tell Ernie you want to schedule an appointment for the next day or so and you're going to leave a deposit for the vehicle you want, he will run and get his manager and try to strong arm you into buying. Jason will simply get you a receipt, make sure he has a number you can be reached, a number where you can reach him and schedule the appointment that you like. Now his manager might still jump up and try to order you to buy today (today and control are two very potent words in the car business) but you know you have a Jason on your side so you reiterate to the manager your plans and leave.

Step 7. - Assuming that Jason was not fired, call ahead, confirm your appointment, have your Stips ready, have your trade ready, and have Jason have your car ready. Go in, complete your paperwork and drive away.

If you follow these steps, your next car purchase will be fun and exciting. I heard that more people said they'd rather go to the dentist than go to a car dealer. I hope I clear out a lot of dental appointments with this one. It really works. Thank you for your time, I'm here all week. Try the chicken.

Shift_Slow Poke McGoke


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Awesome info. Thanks Jayson!

SDRonEbay
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Thanks man.

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This thread has a good views/posts ratio.

Fred..:thumbup

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{Mr. Burn's voice} Eeeexcellent.

I'm hoping to put out more like these. I've got 2 more weeks of banking classes and I'm going to document my startup. Summertime is gonna rock for The Showroom.

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I have a little different strategy; I saved my parents 7 grand on their last car.

You do the research of the car you want, by going to your closest dealer and looking at the car, sitting in it, drive it if you can, get a good feel on it, then when you decided which trim which options and which color you want, you call all the dealers in your area if they have the exact car in STOCK, not if they can get it from another dealer, IN stock. You will NEVER get a good deal if you have to order the car.

You go in look at the car, act like you are buying it today you love the car it is everything you ever wanted, you sit down with the dealer but you decided it’s pricy, and you are going to think about, you give them your phone number, and leave.

So the salesman’s boss is yelling at him, for not selling a car to such potential buyers (remember you were ready to buy today, a car they have in stock) and guess what later that day or the next morning they give you call, and they are wiling to drop the price even more.

SDRonEbay
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tch, tch, tch. When will they learn? :tisk:

Don't you know those are tactics that salesmen are getting used to? We have a simple ratio in the business. 20%. 2:10. A salesperson will only sale 2 out of 10 people in front of them...statistically. How many of those ten tried that? My guess is 9. So probably 1 of the 2 cars he sold he had to deal with a "well, I'd better go home and think about it." My reply was, "you do that." Once again, the car industry stands alone. Do you know what a realtor would say to that person? "Stop wasting my time." We're the only business that sees fit to continue to try to work with customers who don't work with us. And like I've always said, you'll never trully know how good or bad your deal is.

That mentality is what keeps bad salespeople on the floor. Customers believing they have to trick the dealership into selling them a car. Trust me, they're gonna sell you a car. Don't you think it'd be better to do business with someone you can talk to face to face rather than someone running behind you trying to catch you before you leave the parking lot. This is 2004. Information is boundless. If you collect and utilize it, there would be no need for scare tactics. The next time you go out to eat, order your food, let them prepare it and set it on your table then tell them, "um...I think I better go home and think about it." Legally if you don't eat it they can't charge you...in most places. But I can guarantee you this, you'll never eat there again and if you do, you'd better get a DNA test on the food.

Shift_Consider the shaft you hold may be the one you receive.

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Shift_this gets annoying.

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No it doesnt

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Shift_I didn't come up with the Shift_I made it better.

Shift_Write Nissan with your ad ideas.

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