Your 240 Drift Set-Up.

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TheBlack240
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How are your guys cars set up? I'm just curious, I know set-ups may vary with locations, but how about track set-ups? Do you guys prefer a certain manufacturer? Do certain manufacturers show better quality in their products than others? What, camber, ride height, etc. do you guys run? What are your opinions and why?


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drftnassmofo
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just makes me wish i had money even more

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Ender_Zero
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well, my car is stock, but ive experimented with a few things... i heard somewhere if you take off your front sway bar it will induce more oversteer. so i took it off for a while to see how it felt. since my suspension was stock, it felt like i was going to roll my car every time i challenged a corner. i really hated it and it took alot of the control away from the car, so, for now, i have the stock swaybar on and i like the feel of the car so much better even if it does understeer from time to time...

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240SicknessX
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i think the first thing that you should do when setting up for drift, get some suspension compenets first, if you can afford it, a nice set of coilovers, if not around 550$ will get you a great shock spring combo, I love my sportline and agx combo, the adjustability is awesome. progessive spring rates are great for daily driving and also provide some give for your steering work (smoother weight transfur). compared to a set rate spring.

i havent drivin a s14 with sway bars so i dont know how they would effect drift performance or handling, my next mods are going to be tein tie rods and adjustable tension rods.

maybe it was just my experiance level but before i got an alignment i was sliding on suspension and about 1.5 neg camber in the rear, and .5 neg in the front. Now with a alignment within spec, i feel that the rear is more predictable in mid slide....... with the negitive camber it would be harder to loose tracksion initially and then it would be very easy to spin, alighnment within spec is easier to loose tracksion and more predictable in mid slide, maybe because im comparing when i was starting to slide and now almost 7 months later.

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TheBlack240
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I generally like the stiff setup. The stiffness usually gets you to break your tires more easily. The only downfall of a stiff setup is that sometimes you might not have enough traction against the pavement. How do I know this? My cars line doesnt always stay the way I want it, I usually enter a corner really good then sometimes, I just keep on sliding forward. I've adjusted the camber on my 240, and the problem has in most part gone away. I didn't hear about the rumor how removing the front sway bar will induce oversteer. That sounds quite strange to me, and I'm not surprised at the results people have gotten. I like to think that every suspension component serves a purpose. At this point, I'm not concerned with power. my ka24e serves me well to this point. It has over 200,000 miles on it!!! And it still has no leaks! I think its a miracle K. haha. well until it explodes or seizes on me, I'd like to stick with it. Right now, I'm running a mix-and-match suspension set up. Tokico Hp's, Eibach pro kit springs, front pillow ball upper mounts, and front and rear trust struts. I like the performance the set up is giving me, but the tokico's are about to bust, so I'm thinking about upgrading to TEIN flex dampers, or maybe even a set up from cusco. I dont know much about cusco, But i hear they're good.

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tanabe ss type 2 coilovers, kaaz 2 way,

next is whiteline swaybars, pilot strut tower bars, then tie rods and all new bushings...

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Tein He's dampners set at 10/16 and 12/16 about 3" drop in height-2.8 front camber-2 rear camber, jic upper arms+7.5 front caster,project silvia tc rods1/16" toe in front, tein tie rods with spacers1/16" toe out rearVLSD16x7.5 -5 volks with 205/50/16 dunlop fm901'spilot stb's

santi
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k-sport coilovers with camber platesstrut barslower tie bartein tie rods adjustable hard tension rodskaaz 2way205 60 15 falken ziex up front215 60 15 in back any brand any tread wear always free

camber is maxed out toe is homemade but close to 0 9kg springs up front 7 in back dampeners full hard in back half stiff in front

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well here is my brand new not yet installed set-up..

j30 vlsdadj. ebay ruca'sGAB coiloversenergy susp. bushing kit

i kinda dont wanna drive it till i have everything on it...it'll prolly feel likely a completly diff. car. can't wait!!!!

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SPLParts coiloversSPLParts rucasSPLParts toe armsSPLParts traction rodsSPLParts tension rodsSPLParts subframe spacersKaaz 2 waytein tie rods

probably some other **** im forgetting

stock swaysno strut bars

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Come on guys, lets see some setup specs and not just parts lists. we all know coilovers and adjustable arms are good but what are you adjusting them to, what have you found works best????

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This year I'm ditching my Sporline springs/ Agx struts and J30vlsd. I'm going with a tomei 2-way, silk road coilovers, battle version tc rods, battle version tie rods, adj rear control arms, nismo power bar, aftermarket trans mount, subframe spacers, and decent offsets rims. Z brakes and 5 lug is currently being installed along with my sparco seat. Later this spring I will order my 6 point cage and twin disc cluth made up at the local clutch shop. I currently have alot on my plate and the 240 has been on jackstands for the last few months. There will be more added probably.

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dori24tay
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suspension techniques rear swaybarstrut bars (rear very thick, custom)lower tie barcamber flat as i could get it with my eyes in the rear... haha soon to get alignment when i get my tein springs put in and my kyb agx'sfront not adjusted but have jic camber plates soon to be put in as well.180sx vlsd

scary to drive at high speeds with the tire grip i have... nothin but oversteer

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gogg
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eibach pro-kittokico hp'srear strut barvlsdwhatever tires i can get my hands on

opinions: pro-kit sucks i need coilovers.
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truSR20
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a front sway bar and some new tires, other than that my 240 is bone stock! oh yeah i'm posting something i found just searching. sorry if didn't work.

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bump from the dead

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eibach prokitskaaz 2wayessarrrr twenny


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Project S13
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I'm running...little drop from stock ride height...I doubt it's more than an inch and a half max....don't have a stock spec/car to compare it to though =p.Camber: -1.5 front, -1.7 rearToe: 0 front, 0 rearCaster +7.1with a stiff suspension setup.

Camber is of course helpful to have for any type of cornering, a lower ride height will generally improve cornering b/c of improved center of gravity as long as it doesn't compromise how the components work together. My car isn't very much lower but at least I am not as afraid of speed bumps as some drivers may be haha. The stiff suspension is a bit of a concern during certain daily driving b/c of pothole dodging and rough road surfaces...but for sliding it reduces body roll some, which makes handling more predictable.

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Nunook
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For the swaybar trick, your only suppose to take off one corner, and thats enough! Also its a bit dangerous (in my opinion)

i like:-1.5 camber fr-1.0 reartoe fr/rear i leave stockand my fr caster i tell the guy to set alittle more ++ then stock. Dont kno the exact number.RSR springs for dropI get 205/55/15 fr and rear is 195/60/15(but they're stretched alittle)I also have a hicus rear swaybar, but the rear rims i normally use are alot lower offset compared to the front, so it kind of cancels out the swaybar. Plan on getting same offset wheels for the rear, so i can use the same size tires all around.

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ForsakenTH
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just a STB...i wana get a good base line before i start tuning...i regret getting the STB when i got the car cause i never felt the difference it made...i could take it off but im lazy

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akirassil40
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I went to the Formula D drifting event in Jersey and i spoke to some of the drifters there and asked them what i would have to do to my 1995 Nissan 240sx to start drifting. most of the guys suggested all i would really need is a LSD and some cheap tires you know like the ones you find on the bargain racks at gas stations. well i havent tried it yet but ill let you guys know how it comes along...

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im running like 4 camber front, 1.5 or 2 back, 0 toe, as much caster as i can without busting my fenders up, somthing like 9, drop like 6 inch from stock or somthing like that, low as you can with still being able to drive

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Slappy
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TheBlack240 wrote: How are your guys cars set up? I'm just curious, I know set-ups may vary with locations, but how about track set-ups? Do you guys prefer a certain manufacturer? Do certain manufacturers show better quality in their products than others? What, camber, ride height, etc. do you guys run? What are your opinions and why?
i have a 93 240 coupe, i have 1.3 degrees camber up front , with a set of H&R camber bolt's...um, some tokico's w/ spring's, drift button, and the caster and toe are pretty much set at stock....i don't need much to make me happy...oh, and a injen intake for that whopping 5 hp...lol

MainEvent212
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stuff you really nee?

-RWD-LSD

stuff that will make your car "set up" to drift well?

-coilovers w/ fairly good rates 8/6 8/7 (camber plates)-2 way LSD-some power-strong clutch-good brakes-sway bars-adjustable camber arms in the rear -strut bars-bucket seat (to hold you down)-upgraded tie rods help

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Grip Gambler
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^^ yup

MainEvent212
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oh and at least 3 lbs in testicles

otherwise you will never succeed

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northstar ninja
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does anyone have the tein tie rods? does the extra steering angle make alot of diffrence? just wondering as im probally going to purchase a set within the next week or so...also what coilovers do you have experience with? thanks -g

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yes, the added steering angle will give you the ability to have more pitch in your drifts. This isnt something that will just "make you drift better". But with practice it can be a tool that will help you alot.

Just for an FYI though, the TEIN rods are barely bigger then stock, and the ends are literally stock replacements. Hard ends (pillow ball) will be much nicer and will not wear out nearly as fast. Check out SPL parts, or even Kazama and some corresponding Inners if you want the best stuff the first time around. The only reason i oped for TEIN is cuz i literally lost one of my tie rod end completely and had to get a replacement ASAP and that is what i could afford.

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yeap
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-1.5 front camber-1.6 rear camber6.0 caster0.02 front toe0.03 rear toe

Daily driver - and fun


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