you guyz best friend chris

[chrisandjaylin]

first off i asked a question are you cheap its a question ive read alot of crap on this site and only a hand full of you have good numbers everyone nows that cams valvesprings and more fuel and an upgraded turbo and good tuneing is all an sr needs to make around 400hp and by the way ivan may be you guyz hero but no 4 banger can make over 400hp stock and i no not a ka.cams to small not enough fuel.i can go on and on.and no matter how much you tune it you cant turn up the boost to much or the head gasket will go and the rodes will snapp ask me i just done it lies like this makes me think his dyno chart is from a mustang or something. i take that back maybe an dodge or an evo. maybe when the top drift guyz find out what all of you no theyll start putting them in there silvias and maybe team signal will take there sr out of that 350z and put in a ka engine

[Fergus]

wtf? If you could string more than one coherent sentence together, no make that just one, your post might make sence.

maybe an dodge or an evo.

yeah, since the two cars are so simmilar. Just watch the vids and you will see the numbers are what the car is putting down.

[chrisandjaylin]

dont hate

[paemt6220]

Don't post while drunk!!

[turtl631]

This is ridiculous. Why are you so angry about the KA? Most people do cheap setups and make less than 300 whp. Some people spend a lot more money and make bigger numbers i.e. rick, ryan, foster, anthony, etc. Ivan is lying to all of us...right.....good one. Finally, I don't understand your point about the SR and the 350Z. People work with what is available. We have KAs in the US so we use them. Japanese guys have SRs so they use them. People have just been focusing time and money on the SR much longer than the KA. Anyways, if the KA sucks so bad, why bother posting in here? Just let us be deluded with our crappy engine.

[chrisandjaylin]

well i was ok untill everyone made it look like i was calling ka owners cheap. just wanted to no could the dang engine make good power and if so why wasnt more of you making it. maybe i should have just asked how come it seems so hard to get 300hp out of this engine. and i only wanted to no this so i could decide between the two engines. thanks for all of your input. you all where very helpful

[BadMojo]

TPeople work with what is available. We have KAs in the US so we use them. Japanese guys have SRs so they use them. People have just been focusing time and money on the SR much longer than the KA.

I'm not sure what the point of this thread is since it's a hair away from being completely incomprehensible.

If this question is why aren't there more high power KA setups, then I think turtl361 hit it right on the head; the aftermarket for the KA is in its infancy compared to the SR.

Most of the guys doing KA-T have to do some measure of fabbing and there are limited engine management options (right now) for the KA. This is, of course, changing.

No offense, but punctuation is your friend. That post was painful to read. Sentences, paragraphs, commas, all good things.

[Mustangs_Suck]

well i was ok untill everyone made it look like i was calling ka owners cheap. just wanted to no could the dang engine make good power and if so why wasnt more of you making it. maybe i should have just asked how come it seems so hard to get 300hp out of this engine. and i only wanted to no this so i could decide between the two engines. thanks for all of your input. you all where very helpful

Holy **** man. From the way you type and spell it seems you should have alot more to worry about than which motor you'd rather go with.

[WDRacing]

first off i asked a question are you cheap its a question ive read alot of crap on this site and only a hand full of you have good numbers everyone nows that cams valvesprings and more fuel and an upgraded turbo and good tuneing is all an sr needs to make around 400hp and by the way ivan may be you guyz hero but no 4 banger can make over 400hp stock and i no not a ka.cams to small not enough fuel.i can go on and on.and no matter how much you tune it you cant turn up the boost to much or the head gasket will go and the rodes will snapp ask me i just done it lies like this makes me think his dyno chart is from a mustang or something. i take that back maybe an dodge or an evo. maybe when the top drift guyz find out what all of you no theyll start putting them in there silvias and maybe team signal will take there sr out of that 350z and put in a ka engine

You know whats cool about you? NOTHING, your an ignorant babbling idiot who's about to take a vacation. Thanks for coming out and wasting some bandwidth punk.

WD

[BadMojo]

You know whats cool about you? NOTHING, your an ignorant babbling idiot who's about to take a vacation. Thanks for coming out and wasting some bandwidth punk.

It's enough to make a guy snapp his rodes.

[paemt6220]

One thing you have to realize Chris, high HP equals lag on a turbo'd motor. If you are just running the 1/4 mile, 500HP that doesn't come on until 5000rpm is just fine. But There doesn't seem to be many people here who visit the drag tracks much. Most 240's will see an autocross or drift track way before a drag strip. Lower HP and high Torque serves you much better in those situations. More torque that HP is one thing you will see with the KA that you don't usually see with the SR.

Try Making 300whp with a SR for under $3000. You'll have to spend $1500 just to get your SR!!

Chad

[vvaffle]

You know whats cool about you? NOTHING, your an ignorant babbling idiot who's about to take a vacation. Thanks for coming out and wasting some bandwidth punk.WD

Do I smell an IP ban?

[surfwax95]

Holy **** man. From the way you type and spell it seems you should have alot more to worry about than which motor you'd rather go with.

[D1 guy]

ok wd how much money will we at nico have to donate to get this guy band for good? This guy sucks. People like this guy is what makes the tuner lifestyle look bad and hes the kind of c**k that starts the fights at car shows. This guy should be band for life, beaten with bamboo sticks, and be chained up and made to watch imports beat domestics for an entire day.

[surfwax95]

Instead of getting him "banned" let's try to enlighten him to the awesomeness of the KA and thereby creating more demand and lowering the prices on turbo parts...

...oh and give him a grammar lesson.

[Structure240sx]

"all an sr needs to make around 400hp and by the way ivan may be you guyz hero but no 4 banger can make over 400hp stock and i no not a ka'

contridiction

[D Money]

you called us cheap, you stupid cousin-loving hillbilly. you are a retard. please A. kill yourself B. sell your 240 never come back to the forums or C cut off hands so you can no longer post these stupid comments. seriously you are a dumb redneck piece of ****

[turtl631]

Oh yea, SRs certainly aren't cheap to make big power on either. After you've spent at least $2500 to get a complete engine installed and working, you have to buy injectors, new ECU tune, fuel pump, cams, intake manifold, and a super expensive GT series turbo or a t3/t4 mani and t3/t4 turbo. THere's no cheap/easy way to do it. That's at least $2k in upgrades, conservatively.

[madbouncy]

Yay, one more reason for why I hate North Carolina, learning english is optional and reading is forbidden if you want to be cool.

[Drift Machine]

Hah, I couldn't help but laughing after reading this thread. Best advice we have given you is, first learn grammar and punctuation before trying to 'mock' someone. Or whatever it was you were attempting to do.

[foley]

Hah, I couldn't help but laughing after reading this thread. Best advice we have given you is, first learn grammar and punctuation before trying to 'mock' someone. Or whatever it was you were attempting to do.

I disagree, I think the best input was to forcibly remove himself from the genepool

[AZhitman]

Banned, for being retarded.

I've seen women who don't change their mind as much as this clown, ad my seven-year old has a better mastery of English.

Mamas, don't let your babies grow up to be truckers.

are all of you guyz cheap? or what is the problem with your ka motors? people keep saying ka can put out 350hp but none of you cant even get over 250hp. do you not have good tuneing or is it those small cheap t3t4 turbos your all useing?

take the cheap way out and youll never get over 300hp

[D Money]

nice work hitman.

[somthin240]

I think this guy was just trolling! Our bad for biting the hook! good work for booting him with a quickness

[paemt6220]

You can only give someone so many chances. He was up to what, 30!

[EZcheese15]

ad my seven-year old has a better mastery of English.

Must not be genetic hehe

[upSLIDEdown]

Ok cool guy,I've been on this forum for quite a while. I don't post much, I'm more of a lurker. I've had a KA-T in the works for quite some time now and it's finally all coming together. To put it bluntly, you're a f*cking tool. You type about as good as I...wait, I can do anything better than you can type. Go back to 3rd grade and learn to the English language (maybe they'll teach you to write with that extra wide ruled paper with 2" line spacing). Yes, there are some KAT guys out there that are cheap, but there are also some out there that will spend however much $$$ it takes to get things the way they want them. I'm one of those people. If you don't have the time or money to do it right the first time, how will you ever find the time or money to redo it the second time.

everyone nows that cams valvesprings and more fuel and an upgraded turbo and good tuneing is all an sr needs to make around 400hp

Cams-$400-550 we'll say $400Valve Springs-$300Cam Gears $350FP Stage 1 Turbo Upgrade-$2350 (turbo, ECU, 550's, Z32 MAF, and accessories)

Total-$3400Plus cost of SR- $2000 give or take (usually more, but I'll cut you a good deal since this is all hypothetical That gets you to $5400

That's not even including your extras like FMIC, BOV, Wastgate, Boost Controller, Exhaust, etc. You can make 400whp with a stock KA without having to buy the $2000 motor, or any of the valvetrain parts. Hell put pistons in it and you'll be good for 500. Pistons AND rods, and you're close to 600. Don't talk about the almighty SR in a KA-T forum, you will be own3d! The KA makes gobs of power if done correctly, and it will always make gobs more torque than the SR will.

and by the way ivan may be you guyz hero but no 4 banger can make over 400hp stock and i no not a ka.cams to small not enough fuel

I have spoken with Ivan many times, and yes, that KA did make 400hp. Not enough fuel? Uhh, it had bigger injectors with an updgraded fuel pump, so I don't know how it didn't have enough fuel. The cams are obviously good enough to make good numbers with, after all, the first set of Crower cams the dynoed didn't do anything except move the powerband up 100rpm higher. And that was when they made 576 (iirc) whp.

no matter how much you tune it you cant turn up the boost to much or the head gasket will go

The stock nissan headgasket has been proven to hold at least 22psi of boost, so I don't think that's a problem. Especially when a KA-T makes about 375whp at around 15-16 psi of boost on your average T3/T4.

the rodes will snapp

Assuming that means "the rods will snap"... The rods are stout. They did 400whp without batting an eye. It wasn't until the 500whp mark that they started to go, and they definitely didn't snap, they started to bend ('S' shape).

lies like this makes me think his dyno chart is from a mustang or something. i take that back maybe an dodge or an evo

WTF? This is the dumbest thing I've ever heard. Mustang, Dodge, and Evo...well Mustang and Dodge are both domestic, but one is a car model, the other is a car make. And the Evo is a model too, but it's an import, so none of these have anything to do with each other...again...WTF?

maybe when the top drift guyz find out what all of you no theyll start putting them in there silvias and maybe team signal will take there sr out of that 350z and put in a ka engine

'Cause everyone knows...If the "the top drift guyZ" do it, it must be the "mosst besttest awwsomestt tekmologie in da wurld y0!!"

I'm done...This needs to be locked

Bryan

[Craving4Boost]

he doesnt know its not all about horsepower...its about weight/power ratio...his to big headed about the horsepower #......a boat can make 100,000hp but its still slow

[upSLIDEdown]

Well now that I'm done with that post, typing it between helping customers here at work, I see he's been banned... Doh!!

Bryan

[Craving4Boost]

lol thats too bad...copy and print and mail it to his house...make sure that idiot gets it