You guys ever ran into srt-4's on the road?

[Chingon]

I like the new ACR

the old ones weren't too shabby either..

[VinceSez]

I myself, love the SRT-4 and would buy one right now if I had the money.

[Megadeth]

Watch the Team Evolution video if you can on this dude webpage it's a lighty modded Neon.. You get an idea how quick they are.

http://profile.myspace.com/ind...04549

[Fenvy]

ill give them credit, they are pretty damn quick for the price. BUT, i would never be caught dead driving one. it is still a neon, no matter what you guys think.

so tell me, what exactly is wrong with a neon?

Who cares how great a deal it is for 20K....A few more K and what, 50 more HP and a better diff? Why spend 20K on a new bone stock SRT4? Buy any old 240 for a few grand, hell, even a few hundred, and put a few grand into it and you'll have something all together better, handling wise and all. Or, while you're at it, take the $18,000 + you saved by buying a 240 and put it all into the car. Thats just my thinking, I know others like a brand new car, and having a warranty and all....

And to Loveless... he said he was running 8 psi through his '95.....this means he put a turbo on a naturally aspirated motor, which will have a compression of something like 10:1 compared to the SRT4's 8.5:1 ( I don't know the exact numbers...I'm not into neon performance..). Thats where the difference in PSI comes in.

All that being said, the SRT4 isn't too shabby for what it is. But...its still a Neon.

that kind of money will not get you the car that's produced in the same year. 20k can be spent to buy an old car and mod it or OUT OF THE BOX fun car that's NEW. You can not do a $ per HP measure between a brand new car and a 15 year old car

don't forget compressions can be lowered, like I said, PSI does not measure air flow, that 8psi could be from one hell of a big turbo

again, what is wrong with a neon?

[krimsonviper]

Ok i know Im gonna get it, but i thought the SRT-4 was 4 wheel drive with a turbo? and it does beat a wrx 1/4 mile time, but from what i read in sport compact car its a good a$# car for the sticker price personally i got nothing against it, and i know it'll own me 'cause im running stock for now = )

[Fenvy]

Ok i know Im gonna get it, but i thought the SRT-4 was 4 wheel drive with a turbo? and it does beat a wrx 1/4 mile time, but from what i read in sport compact car its a good a$# car for the sticker price personally i got nothing against it, and i know it'll own me 'cause im running stock for now = )

some people are narrow minded

fwd folks thinks they are cool with altezzas and ricerwd folks thinks they are better than fwd because they can "get sideways" awd folks thinks lowly of rwd cars for whatever reasons

svrt4 is a good deal for what you pay. "Car and driver" gave this car an award for the said reason.

Basically it's an out of the box forced induction car for cheap. Don't let people tell you otherwise. I suggest you to visit a srt-4 forum to get other side of the story

[lrb_2000]

if it didnt look like a neon... it would be much better.. it's one damn ugly domestic.

[Fenvy]

so look, not performance is the concern?

people said 02~03 wrx looks like a bug eyemany even think 04~05 wrx looks even uglier

looks is never the case with subaru and they win races, their car built with great engineering

[Sky240PWR]

ill give them credit, they are pretty damn quick for the price. BUT, i would never be caught dead driving one. it is still a neon, no matter what you guys think.

bump!!............hey, whats up whiterps13, I live in Jacksonville, Il....not too far from you(I have a 91 hatch back with a RB25)

[grimple1]

I think the SRT-4 is a great car for the price.

Chill Factory in Chicagoland turns out some scary "neons."

CHILL FACTORY SRT-4 NEON TURBO KIT:The stage I turbo kit includes: *Compact and powerful Mitsubishi turbocharger with internal wastegate *Chill Factory stainless turbo manifold and downpipe *Complete fuel system upgrade *Turbosmart blow-off valve *powdercoated and bead rolled boost pipe *Air intake pipe and filter *Silicone hose couplers and filter available in colors *300-400 horsepower levels price $2999.99

Stage II includes: *All components from stage I plus: *Larger turbocharger for higher boost and power levels *Full boost pipe replacement *3" downpipe *400-500 horsepower levels price $3599.99

http://www.chillfactory.us/

[SeVa-S13]

The "still just a Neon" argument is hilarious. Like all your decade to 15 year old slow-***, 4x4 stance secretary's car is that great. Ha.

[Repo Man]

The "still just a Neon" argument is hilarious. Like all your decade to 15 year old slow-***, 4x4 stance secretary's car is that great. Ha.

Hey, mine isn't a 4x4 anymore...

I've not had the chance to drive an SRT-4, but I have a feeling that it would be a hell of a good time. Especially blowing the doors off of much more expensive "performance cars" and "sport sedans".

[Nismochick240]

lets just say this... neons are gay.. they have always been gay and always will be GAY!! Yeah so Dodge added a turbo to a neon and everyone thinks its bad-***. first off, aren't american cars supposed to rumble not blow off? lol.. yea they're quick to be a neon but throw a turbo on a 240 and ull smoke the hell out of a neon...

[Repo Man]

lets just say this... neons are gay.. they have always been gay and always will be GAY!! Yeah so Dodge added a turbo to a neon and everyone thinks its bad-***. first off, aren't american cars supposed to rumble not blow off? lol.. yea they're quick to be a neon but throw a turbo on a 240 and ull smoke the hell out of a neon...

Hmmm, I've heard a few and they DO rumble...and snort and spit and just generally sound mean as hell.

I take it that since you don't think domestics should "blow off" you don't think they should be turbo, or anything but a v8. There are quite a few Turbo Buick owners that could give two ****s about a v8. I used to be one and I smoked my share of v8's.

[Fenvy]

lets just say this... neons are gay.. they have always been gay and always will be GAY!! Yeah so Dodge added a turbo to a neon and everyone thinks its bad-***. first off, aren't american cars supposed to rumble not blow off? lol.. yea they're quick to be a neon but throw a turbo on a 240 and ull smoke the hell out of a neon...

I see idiots' mouth moving but all I hear is

1) as stated, it wouldn't be out of the box, not everyone will spend the extra money on turbo install2) let's not forget the various problem that comes with installing turbo on a non turbo car3) installing turbo on a 240sx will "smoke" a svt4 for what reason?

you narrow minded bishez needs to come up with evidence to the support the claim that svt-4 are gay because it seems like svt-4 will kick 240sx’s *** any day.

If domestic shoudl stick with v8 then are you also suggestiing imports shoudl stay with low displacement 4 bangers?

[krimsonviper]

Im not narrow minded i dont mind anything. if it can do it it can do it. so i dont know why you flamed me last night for simply "asking" if it was four wheel drive with a turbo, that would explain why it can keep up with a suburu. a domestic could have rust and wipe the floor with a number of people, and vice versa, looks shouldnt care, and if it was built to do what it does, then it shouldnt matter about its performance in other categories. 240sx has great handling, yeah great i love the car to death, SRT-4 look at the r ,loveless, its not a v or anyother letter because if it were it'd be a whole other car, if its 4 wheel drive coming from a domestic maker, then it was probably pointed to straight lines than turns again if it can do what it was made to do or tuned to do, than hooray for it, but anything can beat anything if playing your cards right

[grimple1]

The problem is people are mixing appearance with performance. The SRT has the appearance of the neon and the internals of a SCCA racing car.

It's ok to say you don't like the looks of it but to discredit the SRT's performance is really silly. I've seen butt ugly Buick grand nationals destroy elaborate supras.

"With a sticker price of just $19,995, the Dodge SRT-4 remained the quickest production car available in the United States for under $21,000 through 2005. "

http://www.allpar.com/neon/neon-srt-4.html

[Nismochick240]

im just saying that neons are stupid... anyone i have ever known to have one think they're the ****... u like srt4's so much buy one and get off the nissan site

[Chingon]

im just saying that neons are stupid... anyone i have ever known to have one think they're the ****... u like srt4's so much buy one and get off the nissan site

Seriously, pardon the stereotype, but are you blond?

http://www.allpar.com/neon/scca.html

[Florida240sx]

He has a t25 or a small t3 turbo. I liek his 55 chevu though with a 383 blower completely restored

[BadMojo]

lets just say this... neons are gay.. they have always been gay and always will be GAY!!

Keep in mind that the stock Neon would pass a stock KA, a heavily modded NA KA, a stock SR and a ****load of other cars so fast that you could barely make out the rainbow bumper sticker.

Dodge took the smallest, lightest car they had a put one hell of an engine in it. They gave it a standard Quaife differential and priced it around $20K. So what, it's FWD. Dodge followed the classic recipe for automotive fun - light car, big engine.

Because of the poor resale value of these cars, they're going to make a hell of a deal on the used market.

By the way, for the all people who say they're "going to turbo their KA" or "swap in an SR", I'd say maybe 10% actually go through with it.

And yes, for the record, I think the SRT-4 is hideously ugly. As someone else mentioned, Subaru has also never been accused of making an attractive car. On either point, I don't really care how ugly the car is.

Edit: This is such a stupid, juvenile argument. Whatever happened to liking all kinds of different cars? The whole domestic vs. import thing is for people with pimples, mullets or both.

[krimsonviper]

im sorry i fell into that category when i shouldnt have i just got mad that i got flammed for no reason last night and i've grown to love all cars since high school, except riced out cars

[SeVa-S13]

I've seen butt ugly Buick grand nationals destroy elaborate supras.

Don't call GN's ugly, they're gorgeous classics...aslong as they're in good condition. The MKIV Supra on the other hand is a big hideous fish with wheels (except from the side, the only POV from which they look nice), then the owners seem to try their best to make them even more visually apalling with all manners of bodykits and retarded hoods and wings.

And I think the SRT-4's look pretty decent, not exactly automotive sex but then again neither are 240's...

[grimple1]

word

[Nismochick240]

whatever still makes the fact that neons are stupid looking yeah they come faster stock than a na ka but 240s look a whole lot better...

[SmithSR]

My car is much faster than any SRT4 that's wanted a test.There's been a lot lately.Maybe just all young teenagers who really think their car is quicker and because mine looks relatively stock to the untrained fool.

Veteran Smitty keeps wiping his arse with these kids.

Dodge has poor build quality. Has for a long while. Match less-than-great build with an econobox parts bin car and I'm not impressed, no matter what engine you put under the hood.

Working in the auto service industry, you see a lot of good and a whole lot of really bad cars.Neons are bad cars. A powerful and fast neon is not impressive.(to me)

[Shift_Oversteer]

Man good topic, a friend of mine just sold his gunmetal kouki s14 for an SRT-4 and I give him crap about it every time I see him driving that stupid thing. Look guys, if chrysler wants to build something for the youth performance market they need to stick their 5.7 hemi into a small rwd chassis and call it the new 'cuda. Not take a freaking pt cruiser motor and shove it into something that looks like a riced out easter egg with a 3'' rake and a 12'' supra wing...

[spanishricer]

Well regardless of what everyone thinks about how the SRT-4 looks, performs, or it's build quality, these things are selling like hotcakes. Chrysler took the Neon chassis, dropped a lil' hot rod turbocharged 4-cylinder in there, complete with a beefier transmission, and now the sport compact crowd can't get enough of it. Young and old, all age groups are picking up this car and enjoying it.

In the business world, this was probably one of Chrysler's best moves in decades. That...and bringing back the Hemi.

[GrilledCheese33]

Hmmm, I've heard a few and they DO rumble...and snort and spit and just generally sound mean as hell.

I take it that since you don't think domestics should "blow off" you don't think they should be turbo, or anything but a v8. There are quite a few Turbo Buick owners that could give two ****s about a v8. I used to be one and I smoked my share of v8's.

ahhh the grand national.....................

[GrilledCheese33]

its whats under the hood that counts though...