Yellow/Orange Lines on Rear Window

Post by **S14aMike** » Thu Aug 15, 2002 4:50 pm

My S14a has these yellow/orange lines going horizontal across the rear window. I believe they are supposed to reduce fog somehow. My car is black with dark window tint and these lines stick out like you would not believe. Is there a way to remove these lines? I have seen other cars on the street that have black lining on the rear window so I was thinking that maybe certain years of S14's had black lining instead and I could obtain a new rear window somehow. Does anyone have an S14 with black lining on the rear window? Any help would be appreciated.

Post by **Jubs180** » Thu Aug 15, 2002 4:50 pm

thats the rear defroster.if your back window is already tinted..the tint is going to have to be removed to even attempt to remove the defroster.but I wouldnt' recommend it at all.

Post by **S14aMike** » Thu Aug 15, 2002 4:50 pm

What is the worst that could happen if I remove it? Is it physically on top of the glass? It looks to me like it is somehow inbetween the glass. Will it just peel off if I can get to it? And if it will just come of easily, how should I do it? Getting the rear window tinted again is no biggie.

Post by **S14aMike** » Thu Aug 15, 2002 4:50 pm

And while I am at it, the rear passenger windows have this black outline going 3-4 inches into the center that fades out with little dots. What is the purpose of this other than to try to make the car ugly? Any idea as to how to get this off?

Post by **APEXi240** » Thu Aug 15, 2002 4:50 pm

Neither of these things are ugly at all...if you ask me tinting your windows is much more ugly, and pointless (unless you like getting stupid/pointless tickets). As far as I know however the defroster is embedded in the glass...my friend's rear windsheild broken, and it was definitly in there, but that was an 87zx.

tints=rice

Post by **S14aMike** » Thu Aug 15, 2002 4:50 pm

Why would I get a ticket for having my windows tinted? I have been pulled over once or twice and never have I heard a cop say anything about it.

Post by **PabloHoney** » Thu Aug 15, 2002 4:50 pm

Some windows have the defrost lines on the inside, and you can simply scrape it off with a razor blade. Tedious process if you ask me, but it can be done. As far as the black stuff on the rear windows, almost all rear side windows have that. It is there so that you can't see the epoxy, used to "glue" the window in, from the outside. The dots are a style thing I think. Other than that I don't see much use for it, but I would leave it there rather than **** it up and possibly make it look work.

Post by **SpeedFreak** » Thu Aug 15, 2002 4:50 pm

The lines are on the outside of the glass on my 95 240. The fact that you would even ask what those lines are tells me you dont know much about cars and should leave everything alone. Not to be a jerk just dont do something to short out your electrical system and next thing you know you are the proud owner of a pile of melted plastic and metal. I weap for the future.

Post by **Jubs180** » Thu Aug 15, 2002 4:50 pm

APEXi240 wrote:Neither of these things are ugly at all...if you ask me tinting your windows is much more ugly, and pointless (unless you like getting stupid/pointless tickets). As far as I know however the defroster is embedded in the glass...my friend's rear windsheild broken, and it was definitly in there, but that was an 87zx.

tints=rice

hmmm... tint ugly and pointless? i don't see your reasoning for this.LIMO tint.. ok yes.. regular tint? NO..even films with a very high % can block out 90%+ of UV rays...UV rays = badUV rays = fade interiorUV rays = cancersun = brightbright = hothot = sucks

get the drift?unless you live in some state where the sun doesn't shine, I would recommend tinting any car.

I used to tint windows for a living, I tinted my 240 with 15% llumar all around. it isn't so dark that you can't see in or out, and I can see just fine at night time. Best of all, it blocks out around 98% of UV rays, and keeps my car as cool as it can be for being in Florida.

as for the black dots, they can be removed with a razor.. but ugh.. you'll be going through a couple boxes of razors, and it won't be fun.

but if you are determined to do so.. goodluck

-Dan

Post by **APEXi240** » Thu Aug 15, 2002 4:50 pm

By me, it is illegal to have your front windsheild, driver, and passager side windows tinted, and since there are only two doors on my car, thats all the windows...So it's illegal. A very light tint to me is ok (and acceptable by the police). If the cops can't clearly see into your car they will give you a ticket for it. I think tint just looks bad, but thats my opinion. Also the tint I see on most cars by me is that horrible limo time, or that half reflective tint that fades up....that's what really disgusts me.

When I'm at my house, or work, I just park under a tree, that does the same job keeping the car cool, and preventing interior fade.

As far as UV rays....F*** that....my grandfather fried himself brown every summer and lived to be 87...I'm not worried about getting skin cancer from sun exposure, I drive my car a lot, but not that much.

Post by **SpeedFreak** » Thu Aug 15, 2002 4:50 pm

Not everyone has a tree to park under and not everyone has a fried Grandfather. I will agree that some tint is just ugly. I like tint and since my cars all black leather inside I like the fact that when I get in it I dont have to drive to the burn ward right after because I have just fried my testicals on the seats. Now some people like that sort of thing so I have to state that this is just my own thoughts on the matter.:icesangel

Post by **blink0r** » Thu Aug 15, 2002 4:50 pm

Why would you even want to remove the rear defroster? Even if you live in a place with no snow, it takes away from the re-sale value.

Post by **MasterMan** » Thu Aug 15, 2002 4:50 pm

well on the tint thing.. i love tint.. i dont think any car should be without it.. keeps it cooler (a must in FL as it never gets cold) and dosent make your dash crack (if u have your front window tinted.. wich yes is illeagle but eh)and so on.. + i think it looks good.. but thats just me.. heck i even have my windows tinted where i live.. helps keep it cold

Post by **Jubs180** » Thu Aug 15, 2002 4:50 pm

I think a 35% film or a little higher looks nice on a front windshield.....lower than that and it gets hard to see at night time.

I tinted all the windows in my house with Limo tint

Veryyyyyyy nice.only thing that sucks is waking up at 11 or noon on the weekends since it never really gets light in the rooms without turning on the lights.

Post by **PabloHoney** » Thu Aug 15, 2002 4:50 pm

Each state has different tint laws. Some states allow a certain percent on the side windows (30% in Iowa) and some states don't allow any. Not sure which states have which. I know in Iowa it is legal to have windshield tint if it only comes 6" from the top of the window (like a banner). Putting tint on your car strictly for protection from UV is a good idea. At least make your interior last longer, keep some of the heat out too.

Post by **rbboyl** » Thu Aug 15, 2002 4:50 pm

I would never get Limo tint on my car, because I want people to see me in my hot ride.

Or when I flip them off. jk, i've never flipped anyone off before. But it makes it easier for other drivers too when they can see you...for driver to driver communication and stuff.

Post by **ennui** » Thu Aug 15, 2002 4:50 pm

heh, I prefer shaking my fist. It's much more visible and highly more comical. ^ ^

BTW, I live in Michigan and our law says we can only have a "total solar reflectance" of 35% reflection, not transmission (and that's only on glass other than passenger's, driver's, and windshields). Problem with that is that any tint (even limo tint) does not reflect more than 5% (except maybe some of those crazy polarized tints I see on Oakleys and fighter pilot's helmet's faceshields). Either way, does anyone know of a method available for measuring these two values? I say this because a lot of my friends get ticketed for having tint on their rear windshields despite the fact that it is legal. I mean . . . their cars look nasty and all; but still . . .

FIGHT THE POWER! :rockon

I also heard that if I get my car registered in another state, then the state I live in's window tint laws don't apply to me. Anyone ever heard of this? Someone in my school got a doctor's note that he was sensitive to skin cancer. I've heard of others getting similar notes from their optometrists.

Here's our law, BTW: http://www.surfmi.net/court/inf-tint.htm

Post by **Jubs180** » Thu Aug 15, 2002 4:50 pm

the state in which you are driving in is where the laws apply.

so it doesn't matter where the car is registered.as for measuring the %, there are light meters that some cops have, so i know that is one way.the other way it to ask the shop that is tinting your windows what % it is

the lowest % that I have seen is 5% , and that is considered limo tint

-Dan

Post by **MaineExport** » Thu Aug 15, 2002 4:50 pm

KEEP THIS IN MIND!!!

On a good number of 240's, those lines are not just the defroster, it is part of the stereo antenna!!!! If you go pulling that s*** off the window, you compromise radio reception. Not a big deal, but I would hate to see you do it without knowing.

Post by **1991240xs** » Thu Aug 15, 2002 4:50 pm

I always figured the antenna was the thing that popped up beside the window..i dunno..i'm prolly crazy though

Post by **MaineExport** » Thu Aug 15, 2002 4:50 pm

Yes Kyle.. That's an antenna too! Nissan often uses an "active antenna" system. Why.. I don't know. Read the owners manual to see if you have it. Mine is a 95 240sx... and had the Clarion stereo system. The manual describes how it works... trust me, half of those brownish lines are part of the antenna if your car has that particular option.

Post by **PabloHoney** » Thu Aug 15, 2002 4:50 pm

If you look at the antenna wire that your head unit plugs into, there are two wires going into the plug. One wire is for the active antenna in the window, the other is for the regular one thats on the car. Most of the time if you go with an after-market head unit, there is an adapter that converts it to one antenna, and it uses the regular antenna that is attached to the car, not the window mounted one.

Post by **MaineExport** » Thu Aug 15, 2002 4:50 pm

Yes..

I have this "adapter" and was very dissapointed when halfway through installing my system, I realized Nissan was playing games with me! I've installed plenty of stereos but until that point had never dealt with Nissan. After spending the eavning splicing wires, tearing apart the dash, pulling up carpet, drilling through the fire wall, running wires, and souldering until I was blue... I went to insert the antenna wire and almost cried! The next day I went to the shop and picked up this $12 adapter.... bastards!

Post by **PabloHoney** » Thu Aug 15, 2002 4:50 pm

Hahahaha, yes, Nissan was definetely out to get you when they thought up this dual antenna system. I hear it works great on the factory deck, but doesn't work with anything else.

Has anyone gotten it to work with an after-market head unit?

Post by **ennui** » Thu Aug 15, 2002 4:50 pm

Jubs180 wrote:the state in which you are driving in is where the laws apply.

Actually, if you go to that link you'll see:

"2. This section shall not apply to:"(and then the second to last sentence)"A vehicle registered in another state, territory, commonwealth of the United States, or another country or province."

so I'm kinda thinking one could drive to Indiana, get regged, and then run full limo tint all the way around. ^ ^

Quote »as for measuring the %, there are light meters that some cops have, so i know that is one way.[/quote]Anyone have any idea on where to acquire one of these?

Quote »the other way it to ask the shop that is tinting your windows what % it is

[/quote]I believe that percentage is a measure of light transmission, not reflectiveness.

Post by **MaineExport** » Thu Aug 15, 2002 4:50 pm

Jubs180 wrote:the state in which you are driving in is where the laws apply.

so it doesn't matter where the car is registered.as for measuring the %, there are light meters that some cops have, so i know that is one way.the other way it to ask the shop that is tinting your windows what % it is

the lowest % that I have seen is 5% , and that is considered limo tint

-Dan

The state where your car is registered is the state who's laws apply. This is just common sense. But, you can't just go to another state and register a car.. you have to have residency, pay whatever applicable taxes fo rthat state...etc...etc...

Post by **Jubs180** » Thu Aug 15, 2002 4:50 pm

tell that to the California state troopers who made my brother scape off the legal tint to his florida registered vehicle when he was there visiting family.

Also.. any legit shop will not tint an outof state vehicle beyond that states legal limit.

we had a SUV from alaska come in wanting tint, and it is illegal to have ANY tint on a vehicle there, so we couldn't tint it.

and i never said reflective

the lower the number, the darker the tint..so yes, the amount of light that gets through the tint is the %

-Dan

Post by **MaineExport** » Thu Aug 15, 2002 4:50 pm

Well, unless Cali has some sort of un-constitutional law that I'm not aware of, those police were in the wrong. I have a friend in the the Coast Gaurd.. he's from Florida, he got pulled over in Maine and his tint is illegal here. He has Florida registration, and it is allowed there... the cops can't do a damn thing about it. Inspection standars differ from state to state, and as long as your vehicle is inspectable in YOUR state... it doesn't matter what other state you drive through... your state's inspection standards apply..... without exception.

Post by **ennui** » Thu Aug 15, 2002 4:50 pm

Jubs180 wrote:and i never said reflective the lower the number, the darker the tint..so yes, the amount of light that gets through the tint is the %

-Dan

Oh . .. I wasn't trying to imply that you did . . . I just wondered if you knew of a way to measure it.

Post by **boMex** » Thu Aug 15, 2002 4:50 pm

Let's all get some yellow tint and have that "someone pissed on my car" look!:D

Yellow/Orange Lines on Rear Window

Yellow/Orange Lines on Rear Window

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