Y33 vs 1994 G50??

[2tirefire]

Hey fellas, I have a few questions for you experts in the Nissan world. I don't post that much, since I use what we call the "search" function.

I have been told by a buddy of mine that the G50 had various problems and would not be a good platform to start out with for a VIP sytel car. He highly recommended the Y33, but I still like the overall body style and looks of the G50 more. Call me crazy since a bunch of people will not a agree with me. So would my friend be right, that honestly the G50 1994 has so many problems it wouldn't be wise modifying it since I would always be fixing it? Your insight would be appreciated.

My plans are very simple. Get a G50, drop it on some FLTA2's JIC, and some big wheels ie, work Euroline SL's 19x9 for the fronts and 19x10 in the rears with 2 degrees of camber all around.

[Jesda]

Your friend is right. Do it to a Y33.

[maxnix]

Actually, all Infinitis have serious problems. You need to look at Lexus and Cadillac.

[pito11213]

Wow such encouragement.

Y33 will look better in the long run when hooked up.

G50 looks just as good though, just that it is more dated in terms of looks.

[maxnix]

Wow such encouragement.

Founding member of Society for Prevention of Abuse of Q45.

Just trying to lengthen their trip to the junkyard.

[elwesso]

a 94 Q is going to be just as reliable as a 97-98, they dont really have many problems. There are more age related issues, but your friend is wrong in saying that "90-96 Q45s have a ton of problems and the later ones dont" because that is simply wrong..

If you consider having to replace brakes, tires and suspension components-problems.... then your in the wrong type of car.

if you get a nice G50 thats been maintained its not going to give you a lot of trouble, but that doesnt mean you get off easy and dont have to do anything..

[2tirefire]

I believe that all cars have problems, whether it be a Nissan, Toyota, or Acura. I believe it has a lot to do with the previous owner and how the maintnence was treated while in the previous owners hands. I guess I am wondering if there were any more majore reported problems with a G50 1994 to 1996 than a Y33. They seem to all have little quirks here and there, but the G50 does look a ton better to me than a Y33, and yes I am crazy. Opinions. Thanks

[elwesso]

I believe that all cars have problems, whether it be a Nissan, Toyota, or Acura. I believe it has a lot to do with the previous owner and how the maintnence was treated while in the previous owners hands. I guess I am wondering if there were any more majore reported problems with a G50 1994 to 1996 than a Y33. They seem to all have little quirks here and there, but the G50 does look a ton better to me than a Y33, and yes I am crazy. Opinions. Thanks

Considering that a 94 is 3 years newer than the first Y33, your going to have more age related things, like suspension and brakes, but the actual drivetrain is as solid if not more solid... There are a LOT of "bad apples" out there as far as G50s go because they are so cheap compared to other Q45s... People buy them and maintain them like they're a 4000 car, not a 50k car....

There are some "goofy" problems with G50s, but rarely (if ever) do they cause the car to be immobile or anything like that...

[pito11213]

http://auto.consumerguide.com/.../2061/

http://auto.consumerguide.com/.../2267/

G50 wins!!!!!!!!

[pito11213]

Just for comparison...http://auto.consumerguide.com/.../2056/

[WidebodyZ]

Considering that a 94 is 3 years newer than the first Y33, your going to have more age related things, like suspension and brakes, but the actual drivetrain is as solid if not more solid... There are a LOT of "bad apples" out there as far as G50s go because they are so cheap compared to other Q45s... People buy them and maintain them like they're a 4000 car, not a 50k car....

There are some "goofy" problems with G50s, but rarely (if ever) do they cause the car to be immobile or anything like that...

Of course we know you meant to say "3 years older than the first Y33". Haha, I honestly think the G50 is better. It was produced as a higher quality car than the Y33. What we need to explain is the lineage of both cars to their birthplace. The G50 Q45 came from well, the G50 Q45 in Japan which also shares the same chassis as the PHG50 President. The Y33 Q45 derived from the Y33 Cima which is a lower model than the Japan Q45, but is what Nissan decided to bring over as the "new Q" in the states. The Y33 was the only model to be given the mediocre chassis as the F50 Q45 went back to being the same F50 Q45 used in Japan (sharing the F50 President chassis) and not a lower model Cima chassis. The car is just a higher class car from the start.

[elwesso]

indeed... was not having a brilliant morning...

I definitely agree with your post!!! 100%

[NHNissanFan85]

I believe that all cars have problems, whether it be a Nissan, Toyota, or Acura. I believe it has a lot to do with the previous owner and how the maintnence was treated while in the previous owners hands. I guess I am wondering if there were any more majore reported problems with a G50 1994 to 1996 than a Y33. They seem to all have little quirks here and there, but the G50 does look a ton better to me than a Y33, and yes I am crazy. Opinions. Thanks

Well said. Volvo 240s, for instance, have a reputation for being solid and extremely reliable. "300,000+ mile cars." Mine was neglected before I got it, and it's been nothing but trouble. I've already paid more in maintainance and repairs than I paid for the car, and there's still no light at the end of the tunnel.

Bottom line: if you treat your car like ****, it will treat you like ****.

[2tirefire]

Thank you guys. Keep the info coming. I am very glad to hear that my friend may be wrong in this situation. The vehicle I am looking at is a non active Q45, for the simple fact that I won't be using that suspension setup for long.

I am also curious if all models in 1994 came with HICAS? From my S13 days anytime I passed through a vehicle that had HICAS I would not buy it since it did not contribute to the direct purpose of the vehicle. I am hoping that I would be able to find a 1993+ G50 without HICAS and without the Active suspension.

Thanks again for everyone's info.

[elwesso]

only the T models came with HICAS.... it works good on the Q, IMO...

[DrewQ45]

Well said. Volvo 240s, for instance, have a reputation for being solid and extremely reliable. "300,000+ mile cars." Mine was neglected before I got it, and it's been nothing but trouble. I've already paid more in maintainance and repairs than I paid for the car, and there's still no light at the end of the tunnel.

Bottom line: if you treat your car like ****, it will treat you like ****.

Wow... another brick fan. I just picked up a 93 240 recently. zerothread/208161 Suggest you ditch the troublemaker and get another..preferably a 93' as that's the last year they were made and incorporates the most improvements. Lemme know if you ever need anything... parts galore here in ATL.

WidebodyZ... that was the most eloquently, yet simply stated breakdown of the G-50 versus Y-33 I have seen on this forum. Thank for the clarity.

To answer the question of the original poster. G50 all the way baby!!!

[Black stallion]

Wow... another brick fan. I just picked up a 93 240 recently. zerothread/208161 Suggest you ditch the troublemaker and get another..preferably a 93' as that's the last year they were made and incorporates the most improvements. Lemme know if you ever need anything... parts galore here in ATL.

WidebodyZ... that was the most eloquently, yet simply stated breakdown of the G-50 versus Y-33 I have seen on this forum. Thank for the clarity.

To answer the question of the original poster. G50 all the way baby!!!

Here Here I owned an '84 245Glt (wagon) "the tank" and '84 242Glt (2-door) "the bucket" Rock solid - 3 unfortunate accidents are the only reason I don't still have "the bucket"

[NHNissanFan85]

Here Here I owned an '84 245Glt (wagon) "the tank" and '84 242Glt (2-door) "the bucket" Rock solid - 3 unfortunate accidents are the only reason I don't still have "the bucket"

You aren't on Turbobricks, by any chance, are you?