y33 Intake idea *pics*

[Ludeaem]

Now i know there are going to be people shooting this idea down and thats fine.. its still in its trial stage so to speak. I bought a non-oiled cone filter and maf adapter plate off ebay at first and while i loved the sound.... the performance did suffer. It gets heat soaked very easily with the hot under hood temps. I wanted to somehow put the filter inside the factory airbox to solve this problem but with the size of the cone filter it was too much. So what i did was maintain the factory air scoop (atop the radiator) and the top half of the airbox. This worked nicely but the huge mechanical fan was still blowing all this hot towards the intake. Now i know there are other ways of blocking this but i went the simple way and got some cardboard, wrapped it in packing tap (to keep moisture out), followed by wrapping it in gorilla tape (to add another barrier and also more closely color match it to the engine bay). This helped a ton! Even with me sticking my hand down into the filter region there was a considerable drop in temp. I also took the piece of rubber that shields air/moisture down that way at speed this also feeds the intake cooler air. (pic 4). Also took off the stock elbow piece that goes into the throttle body with some pipe connector. This got rid of the rather large resonator. It made a decent sound increase from stock to it.



Pretty stock lookingLifting up the air scoop to reveal the cone filterElbow resonator removedrubber flap thingie removed

[Ludeaem]

haha i take it no one likes the idea :P

[elwesso]

Just wonder why you spent all that time for no real gain in anything? Of course with the exception of letting more dirt into the engine!

[Ludeaem]

i wanted the sound with no drawbacks. This accomplished that. As far as the dirt goes... any dirt that gets past the filter will easily be burned in the combustion chamber.

[Trumpkin]

[maxnix]

Just wonder why you spent all that time for no real gain in anything? Of course with the exception of letting more dirt into the engine!

i wanted the sound with no drawbacks. This accomplished that. As far as the dirt goes... any dirt that gets past the filter will easily be burned in the combustion chamber.

The first statement is from Kansas, the second from Oz.

Vroooom Vrooooom

I think it was Q45tech that posted the link to the excellent air filter study.

Now off to design a state of the art lead baloon!

[Ludeaem]

Just because its not OEM doesn't mean its inefficient. You will argue till i spend 3k at the local dealer Until then i will smile as the minute dust particles get sucked in my engine. Ahhhh

[Infinitiguy19]

I am sure that if the people in Autozone can sell that filter for $20 then why doesn't Dodge or Ford buy to save themselves?

Also if the dust particle get sucked in where do you think they go through... You guessed it THE INTAKE. So the intake will get dirty faster meaning you have to clean the runners and plenum.

I used to think like you, Hell I had one of those filters on my 1991 Q45. But your intake is as free flowing as possible trust me.

Because there are always trade off when it comes to filtering dust and the sound. The louder the intake the less restrictions (Filtration).

PS: I did'nt list GM because they will find a way God willing.

[Ludeaem]

I am sure that if the people in Autozone can sell that filter for $20 then why doesn't Dodge or Ford buy to save themselves?

Also if the dust particle get sucked in where do you think they go through... You guessed it THE INTAKE. So the intake will get dirty faster meaning you have to clean the runners and plenum.

I used to think like you, Hell I had one of those filters on my 1991 Q45. But your intake is as free flowing as possible trust me.

Because there are always trade off when it comes to filtering dust and the sound. The louder the intake the less restrictions (Filtration).

PS: I did'nt list GM because they will find a way God willing.

My point is i have not lost any power, throttle response, etc since going from stock. For this i feel giving the throaty sound the intake gives its a good 'mod' so to speak. As far as the dirt... seriously guys... engines gunk up... and 95% of that is from the PCV valves and other vent tubes that reroute gunk back thru the intake runners.

[Victor]

I read another thread where the poster had his engine oil analyzed before and after installing an oiled cone air filter. The amount of silicon in the oil increased with the oiled filter, indicating dust from sand (silicon dioxide) was getting through the oiled filter. So you will probably be shortening your engines life by using the oiled filter, besides having the expense and hassle of cleaning and reoiling the filter, plus the cost of the mod.

[qship96]

Yup, BIG difference in RAW abrasive dirt{silicon} getting past cheapie cone filter and sandblasting combustion chamber walls and destroying compression{ring wear} and the PCV oil mist coating the throttle body!!!

Original poster/owner is clueless and will pay for his mistake through shortened engine life, less power{lost compression due to wear},accelerated oil contamination, and eventually another blue smoking mosquito fogger belching down the highway headed towards an early burial.

[Ludeaem]

whats your source on this?

[elwesso]

Ever tried to burn rocks? Doesnt work too well. Ever tried to burn oil? Works pretty well..

zerothread?id=159194

The vapor in the PCV ends up being burned while the condensate ends up on the walls of the plenum and TB.. Why every 100k you should take your manifold off for cleaning..

[Ludeaem]

Good link but at the same time what do you expect. A free flowing filter is going to let more contaminants through. I've had cone filters on all my cars (some for many thousands of miles) with no problems. I appreciate the advice but for now i'm sticking with my current set up. This mod is no different than people removing mufflers and resonators on Q's... all for sound. Any issues from this setup and i'll be glad to comeback and post my experience.

[elwesso]

in all fairness you probably wouldnt see any "issues" within the next 100k miles. For some of us, we will see 100k miles in addition to what we have now...

The point is that its really not gaining any HP only sound at the expense of more contaminants.. Why not stick with the stock filter and get more exhaust note?

Im just playing devils' advocate, im not attacking your setup. If you're happy with it, then go for it!

[Infinitiguy19]

But when you install a louder exhaust you don't have anything going into the engine. You just have more pollution going out into the earth.

[elwesso]

But when you install a louder exhaust you don't have anything going into the engine. You just have more pollution going out into the earth.

This is getting off the subject, but that is completely not true! As long as you dont change out your cats you're not letting any more pollution than before.