xxr 513 16x8 +0 question????

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hey yall

so i got z32 brakes and i want to get these wheels

i know im going to have to get spacers

but i wanna run ones that are SAFE and MINIMAL

i dont mind if they barely clear them

i just wanna know from people who have these whats the smallest spacer i have to get to put these on my 240

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if the spacer isnt bolt on i personally wouldnt trust it unless you get extended studs.

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ZX88 wrote:if the spacer isnt bolt on i personally wouldnt trust it unless you get extended studs.
my studs are already stupid long but i would get extended if i felt like it wasnt enough

do you happen to know how much spacerness i need to run? im thinkin it cant be more than a 12mm

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are you 100% sure they wont clear the Z32 brakes? without wide fenders a 0 offset wheel that's 8 inches wide with spacers is going to stick out a good bit from the body of the car. I'm running 17x9 +15 on my s13 with rolled and pulled fenders and stretched tires and the rims still stick out well past the fenders.

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gnvarnadore wrote:are you 100% sure they wont clear the Z32 brakes? without wide fenders a 0 offset wheel that's 8 inches wide with spacers is going to stick out a good bit from the body of the car. I'm running 17x9 +15 on my s13 with rolled and pulled fenders and stretched tires and the rims still stick out well past the fenders.
9 / 2 = 4.5 x 25.4 = 114.3 + 15 (offset) = 129.3 mm inward, 99.3 mm outward

8 / 2 = 4 x 25.4 = 101.6 + 12 (spacer) = 113.6 mm inward, 89.6 mm outward

im still 10 mm less "flush" than you are

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wow thanks man i didn't realize how big of a difference the rim width played into it. just the other day a buddy of mine and i were talking about it but i had been drinking so what he said just went in one ear and out the other...lol. im guessing you would need a 15mm spacer then cause a 10mm might not be enough.

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no problem man

yeah i did a "write up"" about calculating wheels for fitment and such

i was orrigionally looking at some rota p45 r 17x9.5 +12 beast of a rim but i sorta like these better lol

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i feel you bro, ive been thinking about getting another set of rims for my car and im trying to find a nice 15" that comes in a nice offset to rock out with.

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haha cant go wrong with sport max

my stock 7 spoke clear my z brakes and thats all i care about but now that i ordered these mofos im stoked off the wheels and 2 more inches of grip hahaha

ima rock stockies for dorifto lol

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i have stock teardrops to rock for drift events because when i bought my car it had the 17's on it and i didnt feel like going and picking up the stock SE wheels from his house. ive been checking out some of axis wheels old school styled rims, i even told one of my friends i should piss everyone off and go really old school with some 10" wire wheels kicked out like mad to the side because s13's can pull it off.

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hey everybody, so yea i got a pic of what my stock situation is as of right now



as you can see, the stock rims barely clear at all

back to the orriginal question

how large of a spacer would i need to run to achieve this above with the xxr 513 if any at all

thanks everybody

well maybe a bit more clearance than that hahahaha

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Find a picture of the back of the wheel you're looking for.

I'm willing to be it fits though.

Fender "flushness" has nothing to do with clearing calipers.

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Chris28 wrote:Find a picture of the back of the wheel you're looking for.

I'm willing to be it fits though.

Fender "flushness" has nothing to do with clearing calipers.
thats the back

im not sure if they will clear, ive searched and cant find a difinitive yes or no

just speculative

and i didnt bring up flushness, somebody else did, my OP says nothing about flush

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z32 rims are 16x7.5 +40 and they clear the oem brakesz32 tt rims are 16x7.5 + 40 front, and 16x8.5+30 rear and they clear too

my rpf01 16x8 + 15 clear big time.

unless the spoke design is an issue, why wouldn't the 16x8 + 0 clear?

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Bumnah wrote:z32 rims are 16x7.5 +40 and they clear the oem brakesz32 tt rims are 16x7.5 + 40 front, and 16x8.5+30 rear and they clear too

my rpf01 16x8 + 15 clear big time.

unless the spoke design is an issue, why wouldn't the 16x8 + 0 clear?
you nailed it, spoke design would be the issue

lol me and my friend had this convo today, technically offset has nothing to do with brake clearance but usually lower offsets clear because the spoke design is more concave

a rediculous spoke design on any offset could possibly not clear the brakes

and the xxr 513's look like they wouldnt clear as well as me not being able to find a difinitive answer made me ask

its quite possible they do clear though

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I don't think you'll fit em without spacers. The spoke design on a +15mm 16x8 xxr MIGHT have more backspacing for the hub, but i think its just moved inside the wheel rim instead.

These 16x8 +0 fit nicely over my J30 front brakes so I don't tihnk you'd fit a full "outside of the rotor" piston caliper in there without some spacer.

I'm curious as to why you have 4lug with z32 brakes. Probably why you've never heard of anyone running a similar setup. You probably have redrilled z32 rotors for 4lug yeah?Maybe i can get a pic of my caliper fitment for u 2morrow.

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Didderson wrote:I don't think you'll fit em without spacers. The spoke design on a +15mm 16x8 xxr MIGHT have more backspacing for the hub, but i think its just moved inside the wheel rim instead.

These 16x8 +0 fit nicely over my J30 front brakes so I don't tihnk you'd fit a full "outside of the rotor" piston caliper in there without some spacer.

I'm curious as to why you have 4lug with z32 brakes. Probably why you've never heard of anyone running a similar setup. You probably have redrilled z32 rotors for 4lug yeah?Maybe i can get a pic of my caliper fitment for u 2morrow.
yea the xxr 501s are plus 15 but they look like the moun to the outer wheel close to mounting point for the hub and offsets on it would just be shifted if that makes sense

the z32 brakes dont stick out an insane amout but it is significant enough

yea i took my rotors to speed of sound and had them redrill them to 4 lug and that was that, would have gone 5 lug but at the moment had no funds or good deals on them

yea if you could post a pic of your set up i could get a better gauge of how well they will fit the z32's my friends got j30s and i could do a comparison from there thanks!


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