Wrapping interior with vinyl

[Mercury_Hg]

I'm having a helluva time wrapping my door (the whole door panel, not just the fabric insert).
Why is this s*** so difficult ?

First I tried marine vinyl; it didn't stretch enough.
Then I tried general vinyl; it didn't stretch enough.

I'm using a heat gun, and 3M super 90 trim and adhesive spray.

I've tried Googling and there's no help anywhere.

Does anyone have experience with wrapping their interior? Dash, headliner, doors, etc?
I'm looking at getting some 4way vinyl online, but none of the vendors state if it has a foam backing or not. If not, I need foam as well, which I also have no clue what kind to get or where to get it.
Alternatively I might try to wrap over the old material, but I need to make sure the first option's not viable before I do that.

Any help much obliged. Don't tell me to take it to a shop, that'll never happen. Don't tell me to use suede, I hate it.

[krash]

IB4Broadfield.

[Mercury_Hg]

IB4Broadfield.

Its spelt "Inb4" . Problem?

[pella]

sounds like You are having a few problems. Pay to have it done lol. Its pretty rude to correct someone who is trying to help you. Especially when "spelt" is a grain.

[Mercury_Hg]

sounds like You are having a few problems.

Not until you showed up, buddy.

Pay to have it done lol.

Don't tell me to take it to a shop, that'll never happen.

Its pretty rude to correct someone who is trying to help you.

He wasn't tryinta help me.

Especially when "spelt" is a grain.

Problem?

[AZ89two4Tsx]

There's really no trick to it. It sucks.

I've tried many times on my old S13 and it's impossible for me. I just don't have the patience and me being a perfectionist, it never looks right. The stretchier the material the easier, but there's no easy way around the compound radii.

I would just take it somewhere. That's why custom interior work is so expensive. If it was easy, everyone would have a custom interior.

[Mercury_Hg]

There's really no trick to it. It sucks.

I've tried many times on my old S13 and it's impossible for me. I just don't have the patience and me being a perfectionist, it never looks right. The stretchier the material the easier, but there's no easy way around the compound radii.

I would just take it somewhere. That's why custom interior work is so expensive. If it was easy, everyone would have a custom interior.

They have to have that information on the DL. There isn't a bit of it on the internet, as far as I can see. I'd have better luck learning how to construct atomic weapons. They have to do it somehow, right?

How much would a shop charge, for an entire interior? I don't want leather or suede or high quality fabric. Just some cheap, durable vinyl that's going to be consistent and inconspicuous.

[pella]

HA!

[chicos240]

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=car+seat+upholstery+how+to

you are welcome

[Mercury_Hg]

.

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=car+seat+upholstery+how+to

you are welcome

I'm not doing my seats. What I'm doing is substantially different than doing seats.

If you're going to be a smartass, at least help in some fundamental way .

[costa_rican13]

yup not seats. and i'm hoping you find out i need to do my dash wrap... it has hepatitis-c(rack)

[Mercury_Hg]

yup not seats. and i'm hoping you find out i need to do my dash wrap... it has hepatitis-c(rack)

Mine's as bad as dashes get. Looks shattered.

Doing the doors will be the worst of all. They have impossible curves.

[costa_rican13]

yea wont the material bend/crease when you stretch the material over the curves?

[AZ89two4Tsx]

^ Yeah, that's always the problem. Wrinkles galore. It's too frustrating for me.

If you guys want a cheap solution to fixing cracked dashes, check out flocking.

http://www.rs25.com/forums/f105/t107760 ... -dash.html

http://donjer.com/products.htm

[Mercury_Hg]

yea wont the material bend/crease when you stretch the material over the curves?

Yup. Unless you do mad stretching. It's hard to spray it, stretch it, and flatten it right. If you put it down wrong, it gets harder to pull it back up because of the glue. And you need to glue as you go, so you can stretch it right with heat.

I either need different material, more people, more arms, or magic. It blows my mind there's no easy solution for what I imagine is a common problem. You'd make mad bank if you produced a fabric that the casual user could put down with ease and look good too.

Should I lay down the foam, and then vinyl over the foam?

Or glue the vinyl to the foam and lay them both at the same time?

[chicos240]

I just watched this video on door panels.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dsDDFvs9t8k
The gist of it is that you need to use the right fabrics, tools and glue.
Best of luck.

[krash]

IB4Broadfield.

Its spelt "Inb4" . Problem?

The "I" is for "in". I was pointing you to a member that could assist you. Don't be a d!ck, sugarcup.

Broadfield is very experienced in all kinds of custom interior work and car audio. If he has time, then he might be able to give you a few pointers.

[Mercury_Hg]

The "I" is for "in". I was pointing you to a member that could assist you. Don't be a d***, sugarcup.

Broadfield is very experienced in all kinds of custom interior work and car audio. If he has time, then he might be able to give you a few pointers.

I apologize, good sir! Unfortunately I am not privy to common usernames and the ambiguity of your message caused me to draw invalid assumptions. God day, old bean!

[krash]

God day, old bean!

[costa_rican13]

broadfields work is amazing. you think doing wrapping is hard your freaking jizz a weeks worth when you see his car. before he sold it, if he did, i dont know. just broadfield, and youll find his build thread./ the sex

[Mercury_Hg]

broadfields work is amazing. you think doing wrapping is hard your freaking jizz a weeks worth when you see his car. before he sold it, if he did, i dont know. just broadfield, and youll find his build thread./ the sex

I read three of his threads. And I jizzed--in--my pants. Thrice.

That Bride fabric came foam backed like that? or all automotive fabric is like that?

Yes, it comes pre-backed with the foam. I bought the fabric from Drivelinestore.com. They stock all of the materials.

How do you get the fabric to wrap smoothly around the corners. I never could get it when doing the door panels.

That's what I was talking about pulling the material as you use your thumb to press the material where you want it. Very hard to put into words. I have a cage, so the visors had to go bye-bye.

That store no longer sells fabric.

Also vinyl that I find online doesn't have fabric attached.

I'm going to retry with the regular vinyl I have. I'll waste it anyway if I don't use it.

[Mercury_Hg]

I've been working on one door the last two nights.

I was doing really well and avoiding wrinkles, when I noticed what looked like an air bubble was popping up at the base of the curve. Turns out the vinyl was lifting off its preattached backing . I'm going to try spraying the adhesive glue on the backing and let it dry, hoping it'll sink down and bond better with the vinyl, and, assuming that didn't stiffen the material too much, try again.

[OM3GA]

Broadfield gets even the hardest, harder. Vinyl is a pain which is why most people tend to flock or use fabric.

[charat]

omg this is the guy who switched his pop ups... my god.

[Mercury_Hg]

omg this is the guy who switched his pop ups... my god.

I am not.

I'm the guy who might switch his pop ups. You're just jelly of my mad tyte jdm yo.

I'm going to try spraying the adhesive glue on the backing and let it dry, hoping it'll sink down and bond better with the vinyl, and, assuming that didn't stiffen the material too much, try again.

It did. For f*** sake!

[charat]

this is the same guy who uses jelly as an adjective. 1st grade, bro. repeat it.

[krash]

I'm going to try spraying the adhesive glue on the backing and let it dry, hoping it'll sink down and bond better with the vinyl, and, assuming that didn't stiffen the material too much, try again.

It did. For fornicates sake![/quote]

What kind of adhesive are you using? and what exact problem are you having now?

[Brandon1605]

How are you wrapping it? Are you starting at one side and working your way across? Ive seen this stuff done and it seems most times they start in the middle and work their way out. They also spray the glue on the surface being wrapped first, not as they go. Also, Im fairly sure you should be using foam backing. Anyway, again, Im no guru... Broadfield is the man there. Just some suggestions.

[Mercury_Hg]

How are you wrapping it? Are you starting at one side and working your way across?

I've been starting in the flat part of the dip (arm rest area, above the switch), and then working my way out.

They also spray the glue on the surface being wrapped first, not as they go.

I've tried doing it as I go. How can I spray the whole surface without having the material stick prematurely to it? Also, it's harder to stretch if the material isn't "anchored" down to the panel. I wouldn't be able to stretch over the "corners" without it sliding or lifting.

Also, Im fairly sure you should be using foam backing.

I'm going to try this next (first vinyl had a mat, second had cotton). I want to figure it out, a lot of people on here could use a good tutorial.

this is the same guy who uses jelly as an adjective. 1st grade, bro. repeat it.

u jelly of my exotic adjetives?

What kind of adhesive are you using? and what exact problem are you having now?

I'm using 3M Super Trim Adhesive, the spray kind. The spray itself works well, but the cotton backing of the last vinyl I used wasn't glued on too well from the factory. Stretching it caused the vinyl to separate on concave curves.

Gameplan:
1. Buy 4-way stretch vinyl.
2. Buy foam backing.
3. Spray door panel and one side of foam, let airdry for 5-10 minutes. Lay. Let dry.
4. Spray foam and bottom of vinyl, lay. Let dry. Repeat in small increments.

Should be it! I found someone who did something similar. Didn't turn out as well as I'd prefer, but I'm going to take my time and hope for the best:
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c4-gene ... ideas.html

[Brandon1605]

Im thinking you will need an assistant when you do it. But, from what I saw, they spray the whole piece and they start in the center on a flat surface, using that initial bond as the anchor for the rest of it. They then work their way out. Its slow and tedious, but its doable. Again, Im no pro or even that knowledgeable, Im just going off of what Ive seen others do.