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kppk1986
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Can someone explain how to change a front crank seal on a sr20det... I did a search but i couldnt find anything.. Can you guys tell me what tools that i need and how i might do this....


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go to http://www.zeroyon.com click tech sections, go to fsm's, dl the s14 sr, and have at it

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omg thank you soooo much!!!!

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np

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easy stuff, remove head, remove crank pulley remove front cover hammer out with plastic mallet, re assemble with new seal.

at least thats what i remember it's been a few months

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sonic16 wrote:easy stuff, remove head, remove crank pulley remove front cover hammer out with plastic mallet, re assemble with new seal.

at least thats what i remember it's been a few months


Remove head?

Remove front cover?

Damn, those SR's must be a PIA to work on.

TO remove and replace the front main seal on the KA neither the head nor the front cover needs to be removed--the pulley simply needs to be pulled, and then the seal... So glad I don't have an SR :)

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after i put the crank pulley on and all the belts.. do i have to retension the belts??

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definitely. if you have an fsm they will tell you how much play should be in all of the belts

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ur ka doesnt come with a turbo and its hella slow, damn my sr is hella fast, glad i dont have a ka...

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MarkEmark wrote: So glad I don't have an SR :)


+1

Original engine all the way. At least they did one more good thing when they put the KA in our 240 here in america.

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quiksilvia wrote:ur ka doesnt come with a turbo and its hella slow, damn my sr is hella fast, glad i dont have a ka...


Really?

13.86 @ 108.9mph doesn't seem THAT slow...hell, it's a faster trap speed than a porsche 911, c5 corvette, wrx sti, evo, s2000, etc etc. And by god, it has a helluva lot more torque :)

Glad I was able to keep my car 100% emissions legal but still make it fast as hell...

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screw emissions, and Im curious, do you give other KA drivers the thumbs up, you know, like Pickup trucks and Stanzas??

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Remove the head? I hope you never work on my car.

Remove the accessory belts and remove the crank pulley. The front seal is in there to pry out. Be careful not to gouge the aluminum, particulary the face that the seal sits against. After that, put some new oil on the inner face and find a drift that will fit if possible and press it in. Very easy job.

Depending on your setup the fan will need to be removed to give you some space.

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skillzilla wrote:screw emissions, and Im curious, do you give other KA drivers the thumbs up, you know, like Pickup trucks and Stanzas??


No, not screw emissions. Who gives a crap how fast your STREET car is if it's ILLEGAL for use on the STREET. In CT they're tough on emissions...and I still passed. I don't like habitually breaking the law, skillzillaaaaaahhhhhh.

100% legal100% FAST

I don't give anyone thumbs up when I drive--it's the other way around, but I guess I could ask you if you give a thumbs up to every little POS Civic ricer with some sh1tty JDM engine swap under the hood.

Anyway, this petty arguing is completely off-topic. If you don't have nice things to say or pertinent info, DON'T POST! I hope all you SR boys aren't so caustic and ready to flame fellow 240 owners who prefer to keep their cars USDM.

When I said "so glad I don't have an SR," it was in response to sonic16 saying you need to remove the head to change the front main seal, because that's a real involved PITA for a simple seal change. Because I knew this wasn't true, I was employing SARCASM when I said the comment. Everyone cool now? It was not an attack on SR owners, hence the smiley face.

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So.... guys.... ummm i have a another question.. do i really have to take the head off... the fsm says to just take off the engine cover and crankshaft pulleys plus the drive belts...

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fsm knows all, but if someone thats done it can tell u, it might be easier with the head off. and mark- iwas sarcastic as well, i just like to feel cool sometimes :)

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LOL I've never heard of an engine that requires head removal to replace either front or rear seal. To my knowledge the only seal you would need to remove the head for is the head gasket. Even valve stem seals can be replaced with the head on if you're careful.
quiksilvia wrote:fsm knows all
yeah, what he said...usually. There is the occasional error.

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k... thats awesome thanks for the advice guys

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quiksilvia wrote:fsm knows all, but if someone thats done it can tell u, it might be easier with the head off. and mark- iwas sarcastic as well, i just like to feel cool sometimes :)


lol, I as well. We should unite because of the fact that we're in the turbocharger brotherhood--that's more important than what kind of engine it's in...

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Why the **** would you remove the head? if you don't know, don't talk. And why are you guys arguing about KA Vs SR? A sorry 2.4L Vs a Not made to be in America 2.0? oh yea, and 13.86 does not impress anyone. sorryAnd if you know how to mod and tune cars, it should be emissions legal. keep the EGR and the cat you should be fine.

And get rid of that POS T(iny)-25 ASAP.

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Who are you talking to kppk? Wasn't your question already answered? It's a front main seal, it's an extremely easy procedure. Get an FSM; it's an invaluable resource.

For the record, I'm not the d-bag who brought up any KA v. SR hatred. My original comment was a joke in regards to somone's blatant misinformation saying you need to remove the head to do a fms. It was sarcastic, which was apparently lost on many.

13.86 may not be impressive, the 109 mph trap speed sure as hell is though. if a 109mph trap speed isn't impressive, than neither is an M3, C5 Corvette, Porsche 911, WRX STI, EVo, Audi RS6, S2000, 350Z, NSX, etc etc.

No matter how well tuned your SR is, it's illegal PERIOD. That's what I was arguing. I didn't even want to get into an argument until everyone started attacking me with worthless comments. My first post to this thread was perfectly useful.

Who has a POS t25? AFAIK that's the stock turbo on SRs...

Mods should lock this thread, it's completely useless now. I'm done retaliating.

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Sorry for that f ing idiot it was my friend trying to be a smart ***:bash

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Sorry again for my friends dumb comment but i have another question.. before i take off the crank pulley how do i take off all the belts......

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On a KA, there are tensioner bolts for the belts which need to be loosened all the way. After this there still isn't enough slack in the belts so you loosen the power steering mounting bolt ...the whole unit moves enough so that the belt can be taken off of the pulley...do the same thing for the alternator (loosen the mounting bolt and wiggle it out of the way so the belt can be taken off of its respective pulley...and loosen the AC tensioner bolt as well...once all of the belts are off you can tackle the pulley itself.

http://home.earthlink.net/~j240sxna/pulley/

This should be helpful even though the install only discusses replacing the pulley, and the install is done on a KA. Same principle though.

Tell your friend to stop post-whoring and to make himself useful and help you out with this FMS install!

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Great writeup Mark. kppk jacksmack your friend and we'll call it even.

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sr front cover, just pull the belts, crank pulley and hook the seal off and then hammer in the new one with a rubber mallet.

just fyi, to pull the front cover, you also must drop the upper oil pan, the lower part of the oil pump comes down below the top of the upper oil pan and will not clear. if you do take off the head, that's one way to get around it, but it's easier to get the upper oil pan off.

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thanks again guys for the help.. oh and ill go jacksmack that mofo right now:chainsaw


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